It's always surprises me how many men approach coworkers

[darkmoon]

i mean just what i asked

 

are there workplace seminars for women to learn about guys?

 

if not - why not?

[Phoe]

i mean just what i asked

 

are there workplace seminars for women to learn about guys?

 

if not - why not?

 

IMO, I don't think there should only be seminars for women.

 

I think both men and women could benefit from understanding how to avoid sexual harassment.

 

It's not just women being harassed. I've seen men at my work get harassed by the feistier women. Men who were taken and were showing a bit of discomfort, but didn't quite know how to deflect the attention from a pretty girl.

 

I've also seen straight men get harassed by gay men at work, etc.

 

Absolutely everyone, regardless of gender and orientation, can benefit from learning about sexual harassment and actually taking it seriously.

 

There's a fine balance. Either people cry foul at nothing, or someone can grope another without consequences. There needs to be a better understanding of how to handle inappropriate behavior, from everyone.

[OldRover]

Wow, seems like a very slanted view toward men, which I have an issue with. Women are JUST as guilty. I've never hit on a woman at work, but have had several hit on me, not just a few. And I worked in an environment is I wanted to have a women, I probably could have had a different one a few times a month without a problem.

 

Most of the women I've dated have hit on me first, especially the ones that I've had long term relations with. I certainly don't mind, but if a guy is being harassed, it's MUCH harder to solve the issue. And, I've seen a few cases where the woman provoked the guy, and then filed a complaint and suit and the guy got a year off work before found innocent. Doesn't happen to the women.

 

I have no issue if one dates at work, and no issue if someone that's really guilty of harassment gets what they deserve, but has to be fair for both sides.... and it just ain't that way.

[Eggplant]

I feel like as a woman in the workplace, there's an especially high standard. I would never date a man I worked with, and I work with mostly men.

[Ninjainpajamas]

I think for men, the closest targets for romantic interest is the women around them...they're not exactly being selective here. So I don't see why it would be of any surprise that men would pursue women at the workplace to anyone, it's going to happen wherever men and women are together, whether you are attractive or not...after all, it's where you spend a good amount of your personal time, it's simply the easiest most cost effective pursuit there is with minimal personal effort.

 

I have never pursued anyone in the workplace, I may have done some flirting but I flirt anyway and make sarcastic jokes or what not time to time, but it's not anything in particular focused to one particular woman.

 

However, I always hear what men do to women and how women are always so exhausted and annoyed by the pursuit of men or unwanted/undesired interest and yet for me although I've never been in hot pursuit of anyone, I've had women in pursuit of me, some of it subtle, other times very straight-forward but I don't even pay it much attention to it.

 

Women will complain about one thing one moment and then do the opposite the next under their own terms.

 

I've also seen these women soak up the attention from this male interest, letting these guys take them out to lunch and do personal favors, full well knowing their agenda and interest...women often feel it's ok to do whatever they'd like as long as they are not going to cross a line themselves...supposedly, which some in the end do. But the situation can easily be turned around if she feels defensive..."it was just a professional lunch"..."there was no romantic interest on my part, it was just on friendly terms"...all the while flirting and laughing here and there, some subtle or even affectionate/physical behavior included.

 

So personally, I find women very hypocritical behaviorally...when they want a mans attention they go out of their way to get it, none of the rules matter as long as she's interested...but when a man does it to them they call it harassment unless they enjoy the attention, in which women often define the rules of what is what and often times, but objectively the situation looks contradictory to what they are complaining about...you either want it one way or the other, but women often muddy the waters selectively hand-picking and choosing what is what.

 

I don't think anyone should be grabbed or groped, I think if you're touched inappropriately you should be suspended if not fired. The problem is, women can be vindictive, and get themselves into situations with men and then pull back and look for a way of punishing him.

 

I know of a guy who works at a job where the guy is married but screwing around with another woman on the side at work, they do all kinds of inappropriate things at work...but they had a falling out and she tried to get him in trouble by reporting him and causing him problems, in which in the end she just ended up back together with the guy anyway.

 

Not all women are completely sane out there, many have a hair-trigger and often get themselves into situations they know are going to go down the wrong road...sometimes it's justified and they're completely the victim, other times they've got their hand in the honey pot and just don't like something at that given moment so they try to make accusations to the man for a bruised ego or unrequited love.

Edited May 25, 2015 by Ninjainpajamas

[Johng79]

IMO, I don't think there should only be seminars for women.

 

I think both men and women could benefit from understanding how to avoid sexual harassment.

 

It's not just women being harassed. I've seen men at my work get harassed by the feistier women. Men who were taken and were showing a bit of discomfort, but didn't quite know how to deflect the attention from a pretty girl.

 

I've also seen straight men get harassed by gay men at work, etc.

 

Absolutely everyone, regardless of gender and orientation, can benefit from learning about sexual harassment and actually taking it seriously.

 

There's a fine balance. Either people cry foul at nothing, or someone can grope another without consequences. There needs to be a better understanding of how to handle inappropriate behavior, from everyone.

 

It's applied unevenly. One person can say one innocuous statement and their career is over. Another can sexually harass to the extreme and get in no trouble.

[Elif]

I met my boyfriend at work. He was also my supervisor. (I no longer work there since Im studying abroad) At my workplace there were times that were really busy and times that there wasnt anything to do and the work hours were pretty long. But you ended up socializing with many different people working for different areas in the same place. There were a lot of couples.. Even two of our bosses were married to my coworkers.

 

I dont really see a direct connection with sexual harassment though.