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Is the Minimum Looks Threshold for Men Higher than Ever Before?

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calvincline47 Established Member

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When a guy gets an idea to start a "woe is me" thread like this, they need to stop and do one thing...

 

Dont post anything and shut off the computer...

 

Go to a place where couples congregate....A shopping mall, a cafe, a park, etc..

 

Take a look at the pairings...

 

The guys aren't all Adonis'....In fact most are just average looking shlubs, with average looking physiques,...see them all in happy relationships with attractive women...Tons of them, actually...

 

Trust me on this...You will find them,,,;)

 

TFY

 

Agreed, but how much work did the guy likely have to put in compared to the girl?

 

My guess would be A LOT more.

 

The best looking guys don't have to put in any work and could likely have ended up with any of those girls if they wanted.

autumnnight Established Member

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Agreed, but how much work did the guy likely have to put in compared to the girl?

 

My guess would be A LOT more.

 

The best looking guys don't have to put in any work and could likely have ended up with any of those girls if they wanted.

 

So is this REALLY the basic goal of younger men now.....what girl can I get naked with the least amount of effort???

 

My poor daughter....

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jay1983 Established Member

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Couples usually meet through social circles, school, work or something like that. I don't know many couples who met at the corner store or just happened to ask for directions.

 

Guys see really good looking guys pull off cold approaches and OLD and they think that's the only way it's done, you have to look like a super stud.

 

Guess what? You ain't brad Pitt! So get to making friends and doing stuff instead whining on the internet.

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calvincline47 Established Member

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Couples usually meet through social circles, school, work or something like that. I don't know many couples who met at the corner store or just happened to ask for directions.

 

Guys see really good looking guys pull off cold approaches and OLD and they think that's the only way it's done, you have to look like a super stud.

 

Cold approaches can work for non-studs, but you'll have your work cut out for you.

 

Non-studs can occasionally get girls from OLD. However, they, again, will have to put in a ton of work.

 

And, yes, the best way for non-studs to meet women in the US is absolutely through social circles and work/school.

 

Bars and clubs are okay too for sex.

calvincline47 Established Member

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So is this REALLY the basic goal of younger men now.....what girl can I get naked with the least amount of effort???

 

My poor daughter....

 

Yes, this is the goal of many younger guys.

 

My goal now is to find a girl that I could see as a long term partner.....and then put in as little work to get her as possible.

 

With all of the BS and stress I have to put up with at work, why would I want stress in something that's supposed to be enjoyable?

 

Nope, chill and relatively easy (but not TOO easy) for me, thanks.

jay1983 Established Member

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Cold approaches can work for non-studs, but you'll have your work cut out for you.

 

Non-studs can occasionally get girls from OLD. However, they, again, will have to put in a ton of work.

 

And, yes, the best way for non-studs to meet women in the US is absolutely through social circles and work/school.

 

Bars and clubs are okay too for sex.

 

Dude I haven't gotten anything out of a cold approach since I was 22. Online dating is only, don't get me started and I'm 5'11" and far from ugly.

 

Go ahead, approach 100 random gals and keep sending messages and let me know how that works for you.

calvincline47 Established Member

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Dude I haven't gotten anything out of a cold approach since I was 22. Online dating is only, don't get me started and I'm 5'11" and far from ugly.

 

Go ahead, approach 100 random gals and keep sending messages and let me know how that works for you.

 

I used to approach A LOT. I literally used to go out with my friends and hit on girls at malls. It's doable, but you'll get shot down a lot.

 

I've dated girls that I met at 7/11, Penn Station, bars, etc. These were mostly foreign women of course (who are more open to cold approaches), but some were American.

 

Bars and clubs are super easy to at least get makeouts and maybe one romp a month (if you go out every weekend).

 

But, like I said, either way, you'll have to put in some work (which I like to avoid).

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Dude I haven't gotten anything out of a cold approach since I was 22. Online dating is only, don't get me started and I'm 5'11" and far from ugly.

 

Go ahead, approach 100 random gals and keep sending messages and let me know how that works for you.

 

OLD exists to satisfy attention wh*res.

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Rejected Rosebud Established Member

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Huhh? Where did you get this idea?
From a place called the RooshV Forum that is where this came from!! OP you asked for thoughts on it, my thought is that it's a bunch of hooey and I really really hope for your sake you don't believe it!!
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mrs rubble Established Member

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Depends what type of pictures the fisherman is sending. Sometimes the lure & tackle counts. ;-)

Revolver Established Member

Revolver

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Women don't have to settle anymore because they're financially independent.

jay1983 Established Member

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OLD exists to satisfy attention wh*res.

 

And so men can sleep with unattractive women.

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autumnnight Established Member

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And so men can sleep with unattractive women.

 

Or whine about how haaaarrrrd it is

Rejected Rosebud Established Member

Rejected Rosebud

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And so men can sleep with unattractive women.
Or unattractive women can sleep with men who are pretending they're interested in them?? :mad: Srsly I know couples who met online and who are doing great it's possible if that is what you want, if you spend your time sleeping with unattractive women you meet on there you might be missing out on the right ones.
clia Established Member

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Agreed, but how much work did the guy likely have to put in compared to the girl?

 

My guess would be A LOT more.

 

The best looking guys don't have to put in any work and could likely have ended up with any of those girls if they wanted.

 

What "work" are you referring to? I see a lot of mention around here about all the "work" men are doing in comparison to women and don't understand. Are you talking about the 12 seconds it takes to ask a woman out on a date? Or the 3 seconds it takes to send a text message? Or a five minute phone call? Or the 2 minutes it takes to make a dinner reservation? What is all of this "work"?

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DJOkawari Established Member

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Just like anything else in life, if you see it as work - you're doing it wrong.

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What "work" are you referring to? I see a lot of mention around here about all the "work" men are doing in comparison to women and don't understand. Are you talking about the 12 seconds it takes to ask a woman out on a date? Or the 3 seconds it takes to send a text message? Or a five minute phone call? Or the 2 minutes it takes to make a dinner reservation? What is all of this "work"?

 

 

Y'know...

 

Winning Mr. Universe...Earning a third doctorate, walking the Appalachian trail on one leg..nothing too major..:laugh:

 

TFY

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Rejected Rosebud Established Member

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You guys who think it's so unfair that you have more of the load of "work" in dating, I think you would be alot happier and successful if you could have sort of a paradigm shift and stop thinking of it as work and stop comparing, just look at it as something you want to do (ask her out) and go for it. Or if you really don't want to do it then just don't! Fairness and the idea of a work load really don't come into it for most people. If you are shy or feel awkward socially you probably could actually "work" on that though and feel alot better about this stuff!!:)

AD1980 Established Member

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I'm in the best shape I've ever been but it hasn't gotten me anywhere because of my unattractive face..

autumnnight Established Member

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and then put in as little work to get her as possible.

 

Which I assume means you want to put as little effort into the actual relationship as possible as well.

 

Wow, what a wonderful life.....

jay1983 Established Member

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Or whine about how haaaarrrrd it is

 

Hey, I'm not the one whining lol

Or unattractive women can sleep with men who are pretending they're interested in them?? :mad:

 

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Srsly I know couples who met online and who are doing great it's possible.

 

I know 1 couple, 1.

it's possible if that is what you want, if you spend your time sleeping with unattractive women you meet on there you might be missing out on the right ones.

 

I think they get on there with good intentions, but when it doesn't go so well, they just except it for what it is. The gals on there aren't very realistic.

 

It's not just what you want, it's what they want. If the ladies aren't interested in meeting in person, they just use it to flirt, there isn't anything you can do about it.

 

Maybe if you're a good looking white guy with a bachelor's. I'm a brown guy with only an associates degree.

 

I've got an idea, I'll start making threads telling women they should date minorities and they shouldn't require a bachelor's degree. Lol

autumnnight Established Member

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Hey, I'm not the one whining lol

 

 

Yeah

 

I know 1 couple, 1.

 

I think they get on there with good intentions, but when it doesn't go so well, they just except it for what it is. The gals on there aren't very realistic.

 

It's not just what you want, it's what they want. If the ladies aren't interested in meeting in person, they just use it to flirt, there isn't anything you can do about it.

 

Maybe if you're a good looking white guy with a bachelor's. I'm a brown guy with only an associates degree.

 

I've got an idea, I'll start making threads telling women they should date minorities and they shouldn't require a bachelor's degree. Lol

 

I don't think you whine. You seem pretty healthy to me.

 

Degrees and intelligence don't always go hand in hand. One of the smartest, most well-read men I know didn't go to college at all.

 

If it makes you feel better, based on what I have observed here, you could ask my daughter out, and let me tell ya, there aren't many people I'd say THAT to ;)

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DJOkawari Established Member

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I have a contrary experience with OLD as a male seeking a female, I find that there are plenty of girls looking for someone respectful online. At the very least they'll entertain a conversation with you and from there who knows what will happen. Coffee is just such an easy thing to suggest. The caveat here is that I'm in my 20's and I live in a big city, so YVMV. Also, since it's has been brought up above, I'm not white.

 

 

 

Huhh? Where did you get this idea?

 

From a place called the RooshV Forum that is where this came from!! OP you asked for thoughts on it, my thought is that it's a bunch of hooey and I really really hope for your sake you don't believe it!!

 

This is really interesting as I know of RooshV (I think, I'm thinking of the right guy) as he is from my hometown and his whole "pitch" is that it isn't about appearance at all and he uses himself as his example. He travels from country to country trying to get laid and is generally successful as far as I can tell. He does complain a lot about "western" women though.

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Phoe Established Member

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No kidding.

 

In fact, I find out that foreign women is typically farther ahead education-wise on average than American women. I have seen 23-24 year old who is fully done with graduate school. Here in America, you would be ahead of the pack if you got done that quickly.

 

So if you think you can woo a foreign younger lady with money, you are in for an insanely rude awakening.

 

IMO, 24 seems right on time.

 

I graduated college at 22, had I instantly continued on to grad school, I would've had my masters right after I turned 24.

 

But I chose to due to finances. But really, that age isn't ahead of the pack, it's right on time!

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ltjg45 Established Member

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IMO, 24 seems right on time.

 

I graduated college at 22, had I instantly continued on to grad school, I would've had my masters right after I turned 24.

 

But I chose to due to finances. But really, that age isn't ahead of the pack, it's right on time!

 

I should have added that my knowledge when it comes to college is certainly well below the average so I do appreciate you correcting me.

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