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I read an article the other day, apparently some single men had decided to take a seminar on holistic healing. They couldn't believe the amount of women, in fact, it was all women, in this seminar. A lot of them rather attractive, too.

 

Though, this wasn't the kind of thing they were into deeply, they knew that this was more of a female dominated profession as a lot of Yoginis, Holistic Healers, etc were prominent.

 

I know quite a few friends that follow this lifestyle, and they are a lot less uptight than those I know that aren't into this interest, but I can see why these men would explore this arena.

 

But, is there something to be prepared for when dating these types of women? As with anything, there are extremes, so I guess it would depend on that?

 

A woman I had been getting to know is just that, too...and a very pleasant one at that. Spoke with a good friend of hers (who is a good friend of mine's)...and she had great things to say about her.

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one main thing:

 

You'd better be genuine, open minded, tolerant and caring.

 

Also, you shouldn't be going to these things to pick up the girls. They'll smell it a mile away.

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one main thing:

 

You'd better be genuine, open minded, tolerant and caring.

 

Also, you shouldn't be going to these things to pick up the girls. They'll smell it a mile away.

 

 

Couldn't have said it better myself! :)

 

 

And to elaborate if you are not genuinely interested in this type of life then it will be apparent to any women you may get to know.

Lifestyle choices such as this cannot be faked and to be honest it would seem very strange if a guy decided to adopt the lifestyle just because the women who attend are attractive.

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I dated a homeopath for quite awhile a couple of years ago. She is genuine and probably one of the most lovely personalities I've ever met. She raised the bar for what I look for in a relationship. I didn't get started with her because of this; it just happened to be what she does. I learned a lot about a lot of things from her and will always cherish the time we had together. I agree about not trying to feign interest- they'll see through that in a minute.

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You have to watch out for the Tofu.

 

It can get you when you least expect it.

 

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Actually I am part of that demographic.

 

I don't smoke, don't drink. I'm vegetarian, meditator, use only natural healing methods, and practice martial arts.

 

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Drinking and smoking are total deal-breakers for me.

 

But each to their own.

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You have to watch out for the Tofu.

 

It can get you when you least expect it.

 

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Actually I am part of that demographic.

 

I don't smoke, don't drink. I'm vegetarian, meditator, use only natural healing methods, and practice martial arts.

 

My wife is similar, though no longer a vegetarian, and she does drink some. There's nothing wrong with tofu (or other soy products) - in moderation - but it can increase estrogen levels in men, which is seldom good.

 

She's an advanced black belt, craniosacral therapist, herbal specialist, advanced yoga and meditation practitioner, and former home-birth midwife.

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My wife is similar, though no longer a vegetarian, and she does drink some. There's nothing wrong with tofu (or other soy products) - in moderation - but it can increase estrogen levels in men, which is seldom good.

 

She's an advanced black belt, craniosacral therapist, herbal specialist, advanced yoga and meditation practitioner, and former home-birth midwife.

 

She's a very accomplished woman.

 

Yes, soya products can cause some problems, but as you say, they are fine in moderation.

 

Apart from healthy living and a focus on self-development, my passion is flying.

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I've a self development focus but I do drink and I do smoke but vape mostly now..

 

 

I am mostly vegetarian but I always have been.

I have been working on meditating but haven't yet found a way that fits me.

I had to stop doing more that gentle yoga. I miss it so much! :( But I have found something else which is helping and my mind focus is also starting to tune in with it.

 

 

My main thing alongside this is the four agreements.

I try to live by it but it is tough having dated an emotional abuser.

How does one not warn someone when you can see al the signs?

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I am part of that demographic.

 

I don't smoke, don't drink. I'm vegetarian, meditator, use only natural healing methods, and practice martial arts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you can actually tell by your posts that you have a way about you satu that suggests a quiet strength...i am not surprised at all that you do the things you do......rock on...just a question was your interest in martial arts drawn from the discipline and self control or did you study for self defense......deb

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you can actually tell by your posts that you have a way about you satu that suggests a quiet strength...i am not surprised at all that you do the things you do......rock on...just a question was your interest in martial arts drawn from the discipline and self control or did you study for self defense......deb

 

Thanks for your comments. I love the way you speak from the heart, and I love your insight.

 

My interest in the martial arts has always been spiritual, but I have sucessfully defended myself on two occasions.

 

What are your main interests in life?

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Honestly, I'm with Deb here. I always look forward to Satu's input. So insightful and balanced.

 

You can tell Satu is a special person.

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Thanks for your comments. I love the way you speak from the heart, and I love your insight.

 

My interest in the martial arts has always been spiritual, but I have sucessfully defended myself on two occasions.

 

What are your main interests in life?

 

world peace,puppies and kittens........:0).....seriously.....

 

 

god and the way he works......nature....holistic medicine homeopathy naturopathy....

 

people all people......again also how god works through people and having seen it happen.....i also have an interest in martial arts more for the self discipline and self control....i believe if you study martial arts that it should be more a spiritual journey......and yes it helps to be able to defend yourself and others......

 

i have an interest in life in general......all of life....the natural world is a beautiful place...if we allow it to be.......deb

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Honestly, I'm with Deb here. I always look forward to Satu's input. So insightful and balanced.

 

You can tell Satu is a special person.

 

Thanks very much. I'm hugging you right back :)

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world peace,puppies and kittens........:0).....seriously.....

 

 

god and the way he works......nature....holistic medicine homeopathy naturopathy....

 

people all people......again also how god works through people and having seen it happen.....i also have an interest in martial arts more for the self discipline and self control....i believe if you study martial arts that it should be more a spiritual journey......and yes it helps to be able to defend yourself and others......

 

*i have an interest in life in general......all of life....the natural world is a beautiful place...if we allow it to be.......deb

 

*So true :)

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Prepared for?

 

Women who are into a holistic lifestyle tend to prefer men who are also into it as it makes life a lot easier.

 

If you aren't into it then chances are you'll have little in common.

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Prepared for?

 

Women who are into a holistic lifestyle tend to prefer men who are also into it as it makes life a lot easier.

 

If you aren't into it then chances are you'll have little in common.

 

I know of couples that have their own thing / hobbies that do fine together. Also, usually people who are into holistics are mostly women and to find a man who shares such a lifestyle isn't very common. The male to female ratio at some of the events are probably quite in favor of numerous women in the field, but rarely men.

 

The thing that attracts me to them is their peaceful, loving, and thoughtful personalities. They aren't superificial like most women I come across. Though I do eat healthy and stay active/fit...I'm not into yoga, hanging crystals around the house or dream catchers...and I'm okay if she does.

 

It's really the personality of these people in this lifestyle that attract me.

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Prepared for?

 

Women who are into a holistic lifestyle tend to prefer men who are also into it as it makes life a lot easier.

 

If you aren't into it then chances are you'll have little in common.

 

Well, my homeopath must've had her knickers in a twist. She certainly didn't fancy me because I was in the lifestyle. Heck, I had to google when she told me what she did. And she is accomplished, not merely a casual interest. We drank wine and spirits in moderation; it wasn't considered evil. We're both omnivores. She had been vegetarian at one time (not when we met) and I was/am gluten-free. She adopted my diet, and she even started riding and traveling with me. It's not a cult-like thing at all. Openness and acceptance are what characterize it to me.

 

One of the most beautiful things about her is that she accepts people for exactly who they are, as they are... she doesn't judge using her own self-concept as the yardstick. Not many people are that open minded.

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One of the most beautiful things about her is that she accepts people for exactly who they are, as they are... she doesn't judge using her own self-concept as the yardstick. Not many people are that open minded.

 

Sal... you put it into words a lot better than I did. I do agree wholeheartedly.

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One of the most beautiful things about her is that she accepts people for exactly who they are, as they are... she doesn't judge using her own self-concept as the yardstick. Not many people are that open minded.

 

 

This is likely also something these ladies look for in a man.

Even having the relatively light interest in this kind of lifestyle that I have I cannot date men who are judgemental.

Basically speaking I cannot date someone without the same or at least similar values as me and I have ended relationships and on many more occasions just never dated a man due to that alone.

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It's a weird topic for me, personally. I do date people in this area. Yoga instructor, various hippie chicks... It's strange because I'm basically a modern day hippie, into Buddhism, but have ZERO image. I don't buy all the decorations hippies do, nor the clothing. I live the life, rather than advertise it. This is something I struggle with dating these women because they often don't realize or keep forgetting that:

 

I'm a full time nomad

I spend my time in and enjoy nature best (in cities for work reasons and enjoying)

I eat local and organic

I feel the energy of the planet and living things to such an extent that..

I appreciate the fact that an animal has died so than I may live eating meat

I can appreciate that plants have done the same

So, not a scrap of food wasted, because it dishonors their sacrifice

Foraging wild edibles is a major hobby of mine

I'm already completely in tune spiritually and try to follow the 8 fold path and really buy in to the 4 noble truths

While I write on this forym of my savoring of the crazy life away from home, my home is the polar opposite. Very calm and contemplative. For me, all the crazy stuff is a learning experience. I'm naturally introverted and calm.

 

But, they forget these things because I fail to wear hippie fashion or hang Sanskrit posters about or have singing bowls out, or have Om tattooed on the back of my neck.

 

Somehow, most of these women are sadly thinking you have to LOOK like a hippie spiritual person to be one.

 

That brings me great frustration because they miss the reality while focusing on the image.

 

Also, I have to bite my tongue when they start edging into pretending they understand physics or make false claims about kooky meta "physics" or other pseudo science. I'm a well trained ex physicist and it kills my brain when someone with a high school education tries to spout off about physics, completely not understanding it.

 

So i love these people's general spirit, but many fall way short treating it all as an image or lifestyle and really butt heads with me on science. Which is odd, because I easily accept the spirituality. They always come back with, "well, you never know" when dead wrong about science. lol

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That brings me great frustration because they miss the reality while focusing on the image.

 

That's a good point. I remember back in high school and college how some people used to work so hard trying to present the most convincing hippie image. They are playing a role, not being themselves. But the people who actually lived the ideals weren't at all invested in the presentation. So I've always been very skeptical of those who seem overly invested in appearances, and especially if they have to always be the best or the most or expect some kind of recognition or respect based on that. Ugh.

 

Also, I have to bite my tongue when they start edging into pretending they understand physics or make false claims about kooky meta "physics" or other pseudo science.

 

My ex-wife used to do that crap. She'd sometimes start talking in a declarative tone as if she were confident when she was clueless- guessing. And she didn't like being called on it either. Eventually I learned not to say anything- just silence and a blank stare, or turn and walk away. Bless her little heart.

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That's a good point. I remember back in high school and college how some people used to work so hard trying to present the most convincing hippie image. They are playing a role, not being themselves. But the people who actually lived the ideals weren't at all invested in the presentation. So I've always been very skeptical of those who seem overly invested in appearances, and especially if they have to always be the best or the most or expect some kind of recognition or respect based on that. Ugh.

 

 

 

My ex-wife used to do that crap. She'd sometimes start talking in a declarative tone as if she were confident when she was clueless- guessing. And she didn't like being called on it either. Eventually I learned not to say anything- just silence and a blank stare, or turn and walk away. Bless her little heart.

 

Yeah, and they really are buying into the whole "The Secret" and "Law of Attraction" seminars.

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It's a weird topic for me, personally. I do date people in this area. Yoga instructor, various hippie chicks... It's strange because I'm basically a modern day hippie, into Buddhism, but have ZERO image. I don't buy all the decorations hippies do, nor the clothing. I live the life, rather than advertise it. This is something I struggle with dating these women because they often don't realize or keep forgetting that:

 

I'm a full time nomad

I spend my time in and enjoy nature best (in cities for work reasons and enjoying)

I eat local and organic

I feel the energy of the planet and living things to such an extent that..

I appreciate the fact that an animal has died so than I may live eating meat

I can appreciate that plants have done the same

So, not a scrap of food wasted, because it dishonors their sacrifice

Foraging wild edibles is a major hobby of mine

I'm already completely in tune spiritually and try to follow the 8 fold path and really buy in to the 4 noble truths

While I write on this forym of my savoring of the crazy life away from home, my home is the polar opposite. Very calm and contemplative. For me, all the crazy stuff is a learning experience. I'm naturally introverted and calm.

 

But, they forget these things because I fail to wear hippie fashion or hang Sanskrit posters about or have singing bowls out, or have Om tattooed on the back of my neck.

 

Somehow, most of these women are sadly thinking you have to LOOK like a hippie spiritual person to be one.

 

That brings me great frustration because they miss the reality while focusing on the image.

 

Also, I have to bite my tongue when they start edging into pretending they understand physics or make false claims about kooky meta "physics" or other pseudo science. I'm a well trained ex physicist and it kills my brain when someone with a high school education tries to spout off about physics, completely not understanding it.

 

So i love these people's general spirit, but many fall way short treating it all as an image or lifestyle and really butt heads with me on science. Which is odd, because I easily accept the spirituality. They always come back with, "well, you never know" when dead wrong about science. lol

 

Apart from the science aspect of this post, this pretty much sums me up to a tee as well.

 

Over the years, this has become my "religion" in many respects BUT I'm still me as well. I'm painfully "normal".

 

I don't necessarily look the part either but then again some people are over the top with it like they're screaming for attention ironically enough. Believe me, I've tried it and it didn't feel right, too forced. So I prefer to let it speak through my words and actions and overall energy rather than wear it on my face like a giant tattoo :p

 

As for dating, although I have always been very open minded about a great many things including men, I have to say that if they weren't at least open minded about holistic living and practices and willing to try new things if they haven't already, it rarely went very far.

 

 

As for faking it for the sake of landing a date with a "hot" holistic chick, my philosophy is that it's always best to be as authentic as possible for everyone's sake.

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I'm this kind of woman, although not so much into the pseudo-science. I just enjoy living naturally, focusing on health over image, nature over things, etc. I use natural products for my hair and skin, have never colored my hair, have never been to a nail salon, etc. I read labels and eat natural foods as much as possible, cooking from scratch. I'm even particular about furniture, avoiding items with pressboard full of toxic glues. There is a whole list of things I don't do, and other things I do that seem strange. For one thing, I use only reusable menstrual products. I have a menstrual cup rather than using tampons, and I sewed my own reusable cloth pads years ago and wash them :)

 

So I'm sure that's WAY tmi for most men. And here's the thing: while my partner isn't as into this stuff as I am, he accepts that I am, and always has. He likes my natural look, and doesn't prefer the women who dye their emerging grays and use lots of make up. He supports my eating choices and enjoys time outdoors with me. He folds my pads when they come out of the dryer :laugh: I love him so much! :love:

 

It comes down to mutual respect. If you are not prepared to accept the woman as she is, it isn't going to be the fantasy you imagine.

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I know of couples that have their own thing / hobbies that do fine together. Also, usually people who are into holistics are mostly women and to find a man who shares such a lifestyle isn't very common. The male to female ratio at some of the events are probably quite in favor of numerous women in the field, but rarely men.

 

The thing that attracts me to them is their peaceful, loving, and thoughtful personalities. They aren't superificial like most women I come across. Though I do eat healthy and stay active/fit...I'm not into yoga, hanging crystals around the house or dream catchers...and I'm okay if she does.

 

It's really the personality of these people in this lifestyle that attract me.

 

 

A holistic lifestyle isn't a hobby.

 

I think there is a difference between a lifestyle and a hobby. A hobby isn't how you live your life everyday, it's merely one activity you do. A lifestyle on the other hand dictates lots of other things, and successful couples tend to have similar lifestyles (just like education level, income, etc) even if they don't have the same hobbies.

 

I'm sure some won't care if you're into it, depending on how seriously she takes her lifestyle, others will, and like I said a lifestyle is something that dictates a lot of other things about your life choices and disposition, which is very different than just a hobby, so it only makes sense that you choose someone who sees the world very similarly to you in terms of lifestyle.

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