Toodaloo Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Hahahaha.. Well did you guys have a garlic heavy dinner before the zoo? No! He also wiped mustard off of his nose with his roll and continued eating it. How to turn "cute" into "puke" in one swift move!!! I am really pleased that this one went so well for you though! I will look forward to the updates! So few men can actually carry off some of your moves!
katiegrl Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I personally would have liked you to stick with me and take interest in what book I took off the shelves and use it as a conversation starter, maybe use it to tease me depending on what book I'd picked. It's not about being cligny, it's about interacting and taking interest in each other. It's not because our opinion is different that's it's bad eh FF ! I am showing you a different point of view. I'm happy you're totally into her ;-) I'm staying away from that one lol Personally, I think what they BOTH did was sexy. A few shelves over, still maintaining eye contact and smiling at each other? ff,THAT is what turned her on! It's sexy doing that with your partner, increase attraction. Had nothing to do with giving her *space* though...
smackie9 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Back on track, the push and pull method is old skool way to increase attraction. Just think about it tho....do you want someone being your shadow all the time? no, everyone likes a person that is free thinking and independent. It's also healthy practice to this when you are in a relationship as well....have a life outside the relationship to go do your own thing....it keeps things fresh. 2
Gaeta Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Let me guess. I objectified her, made her feel like a piece of meat, etc.. Believe it or not, there are a lot of women that like a guy that leads, acts flirtatious, gives them attention, etc.. It's not like I was leering at her or being inappropriate. Just a quick little twirl around while I was still holding her hand from the handshake. Hey! can't you recognize when you are being teased? 1
katiegrl Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Hey! can't you recognize when you are being teased? Agree....why so serious ff? Jeez. 1
Mrlonelyone Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 FF It is good to hear about a great date for once. I don't like a date being all up on me all the time either.
Author fitnessfan365 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Posted May 8, 2015 So few men can actually carry off some of your moves! Haha.. Well it's all about confidence and being assertive. The type of women I date like guys that act like guys. It really wasn't a big deal. Just a fun little playful exchange to start the date. I reached out to shake her hand, held it for a few seconds while talking to her, and then said 'I need to get a better look at you". Then just slowly twirled her around maintaining the hand contact. She giggled and when I said the real life version looked better than her pictures, she smiled and blushed. In no way was I being disrespectful or leering like some pervert. I was just communicating my attraction and it made her feel feminine and desired right off the bat. There is a reason why the term seduction "dance" exists.
katiegrl Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Back on track, the push and pull method is old skool way to increase attraction. Just think about it tho....do you want someone being your shadow all the time? no, everyone likes a person that is free thinking and independent. It's also healthy practice to this when you are in a relationship as well....have a life outside the relationship to go do your own thing....it keeps things fresh. Completely agree with this! At a party for example, bf and I are both off mingling with others, while STILL maintain eye contact and smiling at each other....still *connected* ...although we're *apart". So sexy! 1
Phoe Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I can't recall a date ever wandering on a first date, but I've only been on maybe 8 in my life and can only remember the details of the last one. Even the one 2 times ago is moderately foggy.... And any before that are way too many years ago to remember much other than where we were. But my ex and I did regularly go to the bookstore, and we'd definitely wander. Sometimes I'd find a book I liked and would just go sit down somewhere. He'd eventually find me lol.
Toodaloo Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Agree....why so serious ff? Jeez. Probably because he did take a battering yesterday and today is starting to look like its on very shady ground again... Just saying! And I am also going to get pop corn as I know if I check this thread at around 11pm there will probably be another 20 pages about why FF is wrong even if what he did was right... Its also gone completely off topic from "space" and "distance" and how to judge it so you get it right (thank you Smackie for getting back on point) in under 1 page...
katiegrl Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Probably because he did take a battering yesterday and today is starting to look like its on very shady ground again... Just saying! And I am also going to get pop corn as I know if I check this thread at around 11pm there will probably be another 20 pages about why FF is wrong even if what he did was right... Its also gone completely off topic from "space" and "distance" and how to judge it so you get it right (thank you Smackie for getting back on point) in under 1 page... No battering from me this time. As I said, what they BOTH did was very flirty and sexy!!!
katiegrl Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Personally, I think what they BOTH did was sexy. A few shelves over, still maintaining eye contact and smiling at each other? ff,THAT is what turned her on! It's sexy doing that with your partner, increase attraction. Had nothing to do with giving her *space* though... Retraction: Maybe it was a form of *space*. Totally cool and sexy form of space!
Author fitnessfan365 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Posted May 8, 2015 Hey! can't you recognize when you are being teased? Haha.. The women here have demonstrated that they tend to be way more serious and cynical than playful as of late. Besides, that massive attack of women calling me the most offensive creep walking for 15 pages straight only yesterday is still a bit fresh. 2
katiegrl Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Retraction: Maybe it was a form of *space*. **Totally cool and sexy form of space!** ^^Displayed by BOTH of them.....
Author fitnessfan365 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Posted May 8, 2015 I can't recall a date ever wandering on a first date, but I've only been on maybe 8 in my life and can only remember the details of the last one. Even the one 2 times ago is moderately foggy.... And any before that are way too many years ago to remember much other than where we were. But my ex and I did regularly go to the bookstore, and we'd definitely wander. Sometimes I'd find a book I liked and would just go sit down somewhere. He'd eventually find me lol. Well look at yourself. What guy wouldn't want to go on a treasure hunt to track you down?
jen1447 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 So tell me ladies, have you ever had dates where the guy just wouldn't give you any space and acted completely clingy? Lots of times, sure. I'll actually back FF on this and say that while it may not have been the be-all-end-all, she may well have been generally encouraged that he wasn't a purse-holder. btw, can we have another text message exchange between you and t-shirt girl?
MissBee Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I haven't dated any clingy guys. If anything, I've struggled in the past with men who were emotionally unavailable and who made me anxious and worried and caused me to become clingier because they didn't readily show themselves to be consistent and reliable. Clingy IMO has nothing to do with if you stand beside me at Barnes and Noble on a date frankly. Clingy is more so an emotional draining that is constant where you always need to know what I'm doing and can't really function on your own without me. It's something that feels emotionally draining is the only way I can describe it, and less about a certain action. I've not experienced it with guys but my roommate is this way with me and it makes me immediately shut down and get angry because I feel her just sucking the life out of me and texting me 24/7, always needing attention and just literally draining my energy. I LOVE an affectionate man, I love one who is always touching me, kissing me, feeling me up, who wants to spend time with me and see me. That isn't clingy. Clingy is if it begins to feel emotionally draining and I start feeling resentful and angry and this usually happens when it becomes clear it isn't genuine affection and enjoying the person's company but an insecurity and lack within the person that makes them cling to you for dear life. 1
Gary S Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 As a man, it's probably better if she follows you around like a puppy dog rather than you following her. If the woman takes the lead too much, they get drained and can get cranky long term.
Mrin Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 She had to pass gas and once that was done she felt better and more flirty. Case closed. /humor 2
Author fitnessfan365 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) She had to pass gas and once that was done she felt better and more flirty. Case closed. /humor Hahahahaha.. :laugh::laugh: Yeah it must have been some lactose intolerance from the ice cream. It's funny because it was her boss' birthday at work and they had an ice cream social. Then she had ice cream on the date with me at night. Something tells me she'll be ice creamed out for awhile. Lots of times, sure. I'll actually back FF on this and say that while it may not have been the be-all-end-all, she may well have been generally encouraged that he wasn't a purse-holder. btw, can we have another text message exchange between you and t-shirt girl? Haha.. Learned my lesson with that one. But she worked as a bartender for four years and guys in general have some weird fantasy about banging the hot bartender. So she is probably used to guys fawning all over her, crowding her, etc.. At one point we were talking about my brother because I meet his new GF for the first time this weekend. I told her that he's been acting completely p-whipped seeing her basically seven days a week since they became exclusive, not showing any backbone with her, etc.. So she says "Yeah backbone in guys is a rare thing these days. My mom calls it the pussification of America" which got a huge laugh out of me. It also turned me on because it told me right away she wants a man's man. Hence her attraction to me. Edited May 8, 2015 by fitnessfan365
preraph Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I would say that a guy who follows you are like a puppy dog is a red flag and a turnoff. You want a man to be somewhat independent, but without being rude about it. So doing his thing and then circling back by is what you'd expect from someone normal and non-needy, and hovering is what you'd expect from someone clingy, needy, and overly insecure. It's kind of like how you want someone eager but not someone who loses their dignity being overly eager. That reminds me of the last episode of Catfish. [spoiler alert]. This average nice young guy was in love with this gorgeous girl who you were just sure wasn't real Miracle of miracles, she was real, and she did like him. And when they met for the first time, she openly said she really meant it all. Then once they were alone for a couple of hours, seemed like he only had two things to say to her. Over and over, he kept slobbering about how good looking she was, nonstop, which you could tell made her wince. And the other thing was how big of a hurry he was to "plan their future." By the follow-up meet next day, she was no longer interested in him romantically. I guess he'd done nothing but fantasize about her all those months (while she was having a real life) and built it all up in his head and was just eager to plan his life around her so he could be with her -- and for her, she said it was more like they had just met. I'm not saying anyone should feel they have to have a formula to avoid these pitfalls, because it's just a part of living and learning, and you have to be yourself to some extent, but hopefully part of being yourself is having a little common sense and knowing what will make someone uncomfortable and what will put them at ease. FF did a good job of putting his date at ease.
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Haha.. The women here have demonstrated that they tend to be way more serious and cynical than playful as of late. Besides, that massive attack of women calling me the most offensive creep walking for 15 pages straight only yesterday is still a bit fresh. Aww... Just so you know, I didn't participate in that dodge ball fest except towards the very end, when I defended you. C'mere! >>>> HuGs <<<< Hope that makes ya feel a lil bit better. You're a strong, dominant, independent alpha kind of dude! Put on another layer of thick skin, and you'll be just fine...I just know it! You're a SURVIVOR, FitnessFan!!! .
todreaminblue Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 the only time i dont like space if a guy thinks its ok to let me follow him around like a dog and walks ahead of me......i dont do it...i do my own thing......ill go look in shops and find my own company.......so when they turn around...debs just not there anymore........its rude...and i find i have really good conversations and meet interesting people while a guy expects me to be walking behind him ....like a chihauhah...... .as far as a guy being needy and clingy following me around ......i would prefer a little space with an independant guy and not have that guy always reading a book over my shoulder.....deb
Frank2thepoint Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 Your last thread ruffled feathers, but it was actually an awesome thread! Hey! can't you recognize when you are being teased? Haha.. The women here have demonstrated that they tend to be way more serious and cynical than playful as of late. Besides, that massive attack of women calling me the most offensive creep walking for 15 pages straight only yesterday is still a bit fresh. I didn't get a chance to participate in that massive thread because by the time I finished reading it, it was locked. Just point out something that fitnessfan365 probably knows, most of the women on that thread, and even on this one too, the women were eating up everything you were saying. Sure they had a few problems with your words and how you treat a woman, but overall your push-pull conversation even through mere words on these forums excited a lot of those women. Many of those same women that were miffed with you, are actually obsessed with you. A couple, as I have quoted above, admitted how much they are enamored with you at this point. 1
jen1447 Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 I rather think katie was speaking to that thread being intellectually stimulating, which it was. Gaeta was ....teasing? Yeah. Does that mean she was sexually beside herself with desire for FF365? No. I've come to understand FF365 a little better and even like him a bit, but I think you're being over-generous with the eating up his mad skillz stuff. FF would get shut down in very short order running that 'game' on me. (Unless I felt like teaching him a lesson lol.) 3
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