TBM Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 So my girlfriend and I are chillin out today and my best friend stops by and he's a mess. He paid his girlfriend of 8 months a visit this morning and catches her on her back porch smoking weed. She insists it's a once in a blue moon thing. He is staunchly anti. They got into a big fight. I took up for him and said if she won't stop even though it means that much to him, it's a serious deal. My girlfriend, to my surprise, said its no big deal and that if it doesn't affect her life or their relationship, who cares? So anyway I'm gonna talk to my friend again later tonight but my gf and I ended up in a big argument. I drink socially and am not a prude but I get his point. Pot is illegal. His gf is a nurse and what the heck happens if she's tested? Are we overreacting? Is pot really no big deal as the ladies say? Ugh
alphamale Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 I drink socially and am not a prude but I get his point. Pot is illegal. His gf is a nurse and what the heck happens if she's tested? with the shortage of nurses she would have to do a lot more than that to lose her job 1
CarrieT Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Pot is illegal. Depends on where you live, I guess... His gf is a nurse and what the heck happens if she's tested? Then it *is* a big deal. Are we overreacting? Is pot really no big deal as the ladies say? Ugh If it is a big deal to YOU guys, than you are not overreacting. I live in San Francisco where Medical Marijuana is everywhere. Personally, I hate it with a vengeance. What some people use as medical excuses to obtain the drug is tantamount to medical fraud. It is also a smell I can't abide. It isn't a girl/boy issue as you are looking for... I've known lots of guys for whom it is no big deal and vice-versa. The bottom line will be for your friend to deal with and if it is an issue for him, he has no right to dictate to his girlfriend. He can either accept it or not.
Mrin Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 I'm from Colorado where it is totally legal. Honestly - it is no big deal as far as the actual drug goes. I rank it below alcohol in terms of harmfulness and I don't even use the stuff except once in a blue moon. The nurse thing is concerning. Not that she would be high on the job but rather it is still tested for. And nurses are subject to frequent tests. A positive often results in a termination due to her being a healthcare worker. She should spend some time thinking about exposure. On the relationship side - I guess it can be a big deal. If he's anti-pot and she likes to smoke it, then that can be a problem. Does mean she's wrong or bad, they're just incompatible.
Author TBM Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Thanks for the responses. Just got off the phone. He's mellowed a bit (no pun intended) but is still pretty sad about it. Think it just shocked him but he wants to know where she gets it and from who? If she doesn't think there's anything wrong with it, why not tell him? It is illegal here. I don't know enough about it to be able to compare it to tobacco or booze. I did it once and didn't like it at all.
Omei Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the responses. Just got off the phone. He's mellowed a bit (no pun intended) but is still pretty sad about it. Think it just shocked him but he wants to know where she gets it and from who? If she doesn't think there's anything wrong with it, why not tell him? It is illegal here. I don't know enough about it to be able to compare it to tobacco or booze. I did it once and didn't like it at all. I dont think its a big deal, its weird he didnt know his reaction is probably why shes hidden it from him he knows nothing about it and she prob doesn't want an ear full, weed effects people in different ways but one thing stands true booze and tobacco kill and are addictive and marijuana does not. Edited April 20, 2015 by Omei
Gloria25 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I think it's a big deal...illegal or not I've just about had it with all the arguments that pot is "cool", and alcohol is worst, bla bla YES, alcohol and marijuana have medicinal benefits - but the damage they do outweighs the benefits. I've seen too many people I know (co-workers, relatives, etc) escalate into other drugs. Pot f-s with your brain slowly. I makes you lazy and is a gateway drug. PERIOD. I've never tried drugs - even weed. Again, I've been around too many people who did/do drugs and I see how it f-d them up. Yea, I drink, but alcohol doesn't do a number on you like marijuana - unless you abuse alcohol. So, yeah, I am not cool with people who see smoking pot as 'no big deal'. But that's the society we live in now a days...people want to pop, smoke, inject anything to feeeeeel good and not experience pain and life. They wanna be numbed and the government, medical industry, and crooks are all too happy for that. I was just reading online on how people are doing "bath salts" in Florida. Really? And just when I though cough syrup and/or soap detergent was enough.
Omei Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) I think it's a big deal...illegal or not I've just about had it with all the arguments that pot is "cool", and alcohol is worst, bla bla YES, alcohol and marijuana have medicinal benefits - but the damage they do outweighs the benefits. I've seen too many people I know (co-workers, relatives, etc) escalate into other drugs. Pot f-s with your brain slowly. I makes you lazy and is a gateway drug. PERIOD. I've never tried drugs - even weed. Again, I've been around too many people who did/do drugs and I see how it f-d them up. Yea, I drink, but alcohol doesn't do a number on you like marijuana - unless you abuse alcohol. So, yeah, I am not cool with people who see smoking pot as 'no big deal'. But that's the society we live in now a days...people want to pop, smoke, inject anything to feeeeeel good and not experience pain and life. They wanna be numbed and the government, medical industry, and crooks are all too happy for that. I was just reading online on how people are doing "bath salts" in Florida. Really? And just when I though cough syrup and/or soap detergent was enough. I think ive said this to you in another post but your thoughts on the dangers of marijuana are highly over exadurated I smoke about a 8th of weed weekly for the last 13 years im not even close to being the slightest bit fried or messed up im very close to family they have never even known or suspected thats how little it impares and ive never been too lazy to do my responsibilities but ill drink booze for one night and be impaired and sick. It's not a gateway drug that is bs ive never wanted to do another drug in my entire life or have needed a higher high. People who move into hard drugs that is their own doing and ****ed up mentality pot isnt the devil that forces your hand people make their own choices. Im not saying everyone should smoke but it definitely isnt as harmful are your trying to make it sound. I rather smoke and act like a normal human being than drink and get a slurr and wabble around and act a fool any day. I know many arnt going to agree with me that is O.K. I know I defend it way too much but its just had too many positives for me regarding pain and depression I guess I feel much more motivated for life now than I did when I was depressed. Edited April 20, 2015 by Omei
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I don't like the "pot is illegal" argument, so is gay marriage in some states, but that is quickly changing. Pot will likely do the same in the next 10-15 years just like gay marriage. Personally, I don't find anything wrong with it... Studies show that it is relatively harmless, you can't overdose on it and die (like alcohol for example). It does have some effects on the mind, and with chronic use it can mess with a person I guess - it varies from person to person. I think if someone wants to light up once in a while at a party or in a social gathering, that it's acceptable. I don't have my own weed or bowl that I smoke, but I usually partake when I party. It sounds like she was smoking in the middle of the day by herself though, I'd almost equate that to drinking alone lol. Maybe not QUITE as bad, but still up there. I think the guy is justified being upset in this case.
Omei Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) I don't like the "pot is illegal" argument, so is gay marriage in some states, but that is quickly changing. Pot will likely do the same in the next 10-15 years just like gay marriage. Personally, I don't find anything wrong with it... Studies show that it is relatively harmless, you can't overdose on it and die (like alcohol for example). It does have some effects on the mind, and with chronic use it can mess with a person I guess - it varies from person to person. I think if someone wants to light up once in a while at a party or in a social gathering, that it's acceptable. I don't have my own weed or bowl that I smoke, but I usually partake when I party. It sounds like she was smoking in the middle of the day by herself though, I'd almost equate that to drinking alone lol. Maybe not QUITE as bad, but still up there. I think the guy is justified being upset in this case. Personally ive always viewed pot as a personal remedy just as if a person smoked a cigarette alone, and less as a party item, but I haven't partied since before my kid not unless it was a birthday party hahah OP she might be a regular user like me, regular users smoke alone nearly every day and its not like a party favor at all and more so a cigarette, ask her. Edited April 20, 2015 by Omei
Krieger Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 S Pot is illegal. "Rule of thumb" is a rude reference to an old law permitting men to beat their wives with a stick no thicker than a thumb. well that was legal once too does not mean you should do it LOL.
PogoStick Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 She's right. Pot is not a big deal. As for illegality...I bet you drank before you turned of age. And I bet you've driven after drinking. I guess we should throw you in jail for a few years and put a permanent felony on your record. Don't you agree?
PogoStick Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 To hell with your drug war propaganda! You forgot: pot makes black men rape white women. YES, alcohol and marijuana have medicinal benefits - but the damage they do outweighs the benefits. They also have recreational, social, and spiritual uses. Obviously, for millions of people the rewards outweigh the negatives or they wouldn't use drugs. I've seen too many people I know (co-workers, relatives, etc) escalate into other drugs. I saw some guys smoke pot once and then they became physicians. Pot f-s with your brain slowly. I makes you lazy and is a gateway drug. PERIOD. If pot is a gateway drug then what is the gateway to pot? Alcohol. And to alcohol? Pepsi. I've never tried drugs - even weed. Again, I've been around too many people who did/do drugs and I see how it f-d them up. I've been around too many fkd up people who never did any drugs. Clearly, not doing drugs is bad for you. Yea, I drink, but alcohol doesn't do a number on you like marijuana - unless you abuse alcohol. Or, marijuana doesn't do a number on you like alcohol, unless you abuse marijuana. I was just reading online on how people are doing "bath salts" in Florida. Really? If you would quit taking away the good drugs then people wouldn't resort to the crazy ones. 2
mortensorchid Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I am guessing that you are in your twenties and so are all the people in question here. No matter how you feel about pot smoking (or use of any drug out there), I think you should be upfront about it and ask that person if they do or don't. Otherwise you are in for a rude awakening like your friend and his gf. Quite honestly, I do not care if people drink or smoke pot or use other drugs. It doesn't affect me one way or another, whatever they choose to do with their time is their business. I would also say that to someone who is born again Christian and spends all their time in church. If it does bother you (or your friend in question) then he should let the gf know of this and say he is or isn't going to tolerate this out of her.
veggirl Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I think you and the girls bf need to relax. pot will be legal wherever you live eventually, will you still think it is so bad then? I mean is it the illegality of it that bothers you or do you think people who smoke weed are drug addicts? Bet you'd be VERY surprised by how many professional people you know that partake in smoking.
PegNosePete Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Smoking tobacco is legal but I would not date someone who does that either. What you or your GF or anyone here thinks is irrelevant. Is this a deal-breaker for your friend? If it is then he needs to split up with his GF. If it's not then he needs to accept that she smokes it. Those are really the only two options here. The legality debate is totally irrelevant. 6
guest569 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I dont think you are overreacting. But i wonder why you are sticking your nose into their relationship?
PegNosePete Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I dont think you are overreacting. But i wonder why you are sticking your nose into their relationship? In my experience supporters of pot smoking have a great tendency to convert everyone to their own way of thinking, rather than accepting that someone people simply do not like it and do not share their opinions. As you can see on page 1 of this thread! 1
guest569 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 In my experience supporters of pot smoking have a great tendency to convert everyone to their own way of thinking, rather than accepting that someone people simply do not like it and do not share their opinions. As you can see on page 1 of this thread! I get that OP is trying to help and advise his friend, but ultimately its up to his friend and I wonder if its really once in a blue moon.
Justanaverageguy Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 In my experience supporters of pot smoking have a great tendency to convert everyone to their own way of thinking, rather than accepting that someone people simply do not like it and do not share their opinions. As you can see on page 1 of this thread! Yeah true - but the people against pot smoking are doing the exact same thing which you can also see on page 1 of this thread. You can also see it based on the Boyfriends behavior and insistence on her stopping. Live and let live I say. The guys BF can't tell the girl what to do and can't control her behavior. If she wants to smoke she will - from what she has said she intends to do just that. So he either accepts that is part of who she is and works with it ..... or he should stop dating the girl. Really simple. 2
Emilia Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Each to their own but it is a big deal to me and when I found out recently that someone I was seeing had the odd puff, I had words. I don't tolerate pot the slightest because I've seen the dumb stupidity on dopers' face and I have seen what 'chilling' like that does to your drive in life. No thanks. No drugs, don't mind alcohol on occasion (I'm that way myself) or if a guy pops outside a pub with a mate for the rare cigarette. But drugs? No. 1
Justanaverageguy Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Each to their own but it is a big deal to me and when I found out recently that someone I was seeing had the odd puff, I had words. I don't tolerate pot the slightest because I've seen the dumb stupidity on dopers' face and I have seen what 'chilling' like that does to your drive in life. No thanks. No drugs, don't mind alcohol on occasion (I'm that way myself) or if a guy pops outside a pub with a mate for the rare cigarette. But drugs? No. I'm not having a go at you. I respect your opinion ..... but you do realize alcohol is a drug right ? Just as nicoteene and tobacco are. The classification you are applying to what is allowed and what is not - seems to be dependent on the law and social acceptance rather then whether it is a drug or the effect it has on the body and health. Both alcohol and cigarettes have been shown to be just as damaging if not more so then weed. I experimented quite a bit in my youth so I have tried just about all of your common recreational drugs. As such I likely have a more open minded view then most when it comes to drugs. I have seen them have both positive (yes seriously) and very negative effects on people. So I take a different view - It is not the drug that matters so much as the person and the way they use it. Alcohol could be a deal breaker for me depending on how someone uses it. Weed could also be a deal breaker depending on how someone uses it. Anti anxiety and legal painkillers could also be deal breakers ... I had a friend who had huge issues with these. I normally find those that have issues with one drug .... often have issues with most of them. Those who show they have the ability to control and moderate what they do with one drug are normally better across the board. So for me - Someone who smoked a very occasional joint at a party to relax I would automatically find more attractive. Seems like someone I would connect and be on the same wavelength with. That's just me. Edited April 20, 2015 by Justanaverageguy
katiegrl Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I think it's a big deal...illegal or not I've just about had it with all the arguments that pot is "cool", and alcohol is worst, bla bla YES, alcohol and marijuana have medicinal benefits - but the damage they do outweighs the benefits. I've seen too many people I know (co-workers, relatives, etc) escalate into other drugs. Pot f-s with your brain slowly. I makes you lazy and is a gateway drug. PERIOD. I've never tried drugs - even weed. Again, I've been around too many people who did/do drugs and I see how it f-d them up. Yea, I drink, but alcohol doesn't do a number on you like marijuana - unless you abuse alcohol. So, yeah, I am not cool with people who see smoking pot as 'no big deal'. But that's the society we live in now a days...people want to pop, smoke, inject anything to feeeeeel good and not experience pain and life. They wanna be numbed and the government, medical industry, and crooks are all too happy for that. I was just reading online on how people are doing "bath salts" in Florida. Really? And just when I though cough syrup and/or soap detergent was enough. >>..but alcohol doesn't do a number on you like marijuana - unless you abuse alcohol. -- Please educate yourself. Marijuana does not do a "number" on you either - unless you abuse it. Yes, it may lead to stronger drugs -- IF you abuse it. Just like alcohol can lead a person to drink even more alcohol, which could eventually destroy their liver, among other things, and KILL them - IF they abuse it. Everything in moderation. Unlike alcohol, marijuana has many many medical benefits. Educate yourself!
PegNosePete Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Unlike alcohol, marijuana has many many medical benefits. Educate yourself! Indeed. 7 Health Benefits Of Drinking Alcohol 1
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