Sarabi Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 A woman in her 30s who has an established career and everything herself still won't be an easy catch. To be honest I'd guess that men have the upper hand in their 30s because there are a lot of women who are single mothers after getting knocked up by their "love of her life" who are now looking for a caretaker. I know men at work who in their twenties married women like this (who had been knocked up by their teens I suppose)
Got it Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Agreed ^^... IMO, a guy who seeks a woman who can bring in money either: doesn't have his poop together; is too lazy to and/or unwilling to assume the responsibility of being the breadwinner for a wife and kids; is more worried about "stuff" he and the wife will accumulate rather than have a wife and mother present for the kids and him; and/or he was raised by a feminist and/or has his brain washed by the feminist movement - where he should be ok with a woman putting a job/career over a home and the family. Wow. How about just appreciating her work ethic and other attributes? That potentially since his career is important he would desire a woman that has similar priorities so they have an even balance. That not every guy "needs to be taken care of/catered to" and wants a woman who is matched in mental, emotional and social status. I swear this tends to be spoken by women who have no chance of ever being the ^^^ woman or by men who have no chance with her.
Got it Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Sperm donor can work. Fertility clinic has a 1/3 chance of working at best. It gets tougher at advanced maternal age. On the plus side, for us single men, it's never been easier to have a child without a woman in our lives. Lol as someone that just did IVF and is pregnant I have to say your stats are wrong. Would you like to see accurate stats?
Got it Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 And as a woman, in my late 30's, who pulls in over 300K, you are damn skippy that if I was dating I would be very selective on who I was dating. It would be a small pool because I am looking for a man who not only understands and supports my career, understands why the career is important, gets the need for personal balance but understands it is team work and that gender roles fulfill little. And appreciates my hobbies as I will appreciate his. And because I understand how threatening a successful woman can be, that would make me careful on my selections and dating choices. Do I look for perfect? Of course not, but there are certain things I do look for, and some dealbreakers (Republican need not apply ). Luckily dating my husband showed me a man that loves and supports his career as well as mine, gets that gender roles mean little, and personal interest means a lot more, and working as a team is the most important achievement. It is a fluid give and take supporting each other when needed. I have no idea how the large mass of 30 year old males think, I have no idea how the large mass of anyone thinks. I don't care, I care about the individuals and then ones that I may interact with. It is about knowing yourself, knowing your needs, desires, and faults, knowing your dealbreakers, and all the areas you can compromise, and then just finding that person that pisses you off but still makes you happy they are in your life than out of it. And then it is about working hard every day nurturing and supporting the partnership. 1
Woggle Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 People need to stop trying to apply SATC to real life. It is just a tv show based on what used to be a very small section of NYC. 2
Got it Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 People need to stop trying to apply SATC to real life. It is just a tv show based on what used to be a very small section of NYC. I can't like this post more than once!?! Brilliant!!!!
Kbomb Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I think this is true for both men and woman. In their twenties I feel like men have more power because woman are still finding their sexuality and usually want to have kids, where as men are not looking for a family at that age. When woman are in their 30s they know who are and what they want. And I'm not there yet but I think a woman in her 40s must be a force to be reckoned with!!!
Timshel Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I think this is true for both men and woman. In their twenties I feel like men have more power because woman are still finding their sexuality and usually want to have kids, where as men are not looking for a family at that age. When woman are in their 30s they know who are and what they want. And I'm not there yet but I think a woman in her 40s must be a force to be reckoned with!!! I'm not sure that today's 20 something women are still finding their sexuality. I think a lot of them have found it! I don't personally know any 20-28 yr. old women that have any interest in having children. I know one 29 (married) who is ready. Yes, 40's and upwards are indeed a force to be reckoned with. 1
serial muse Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 True, in a way. I will be in my 30s soon and, personally, I wouldn't want a woman without a career, due to the divorce laws in this country. So I'm pretty hard on women, career-wise. They have to be doing well for themselves before I'd consider seriously dating them. Of course, then you get into the women that are successful, but have too many masculine qualities and/or are looking for Mr. Perfect (which I am not). So, as a man, I can't really win these days regardless of what I do (unless, perhaps, I settle in a third world country and stay there). I think most women (can't speak for all, of course) are going to prefer a guy who believes she has something to offer. As, you know, a human being. So that's something to pay attention to when thinking of one's personal dating challenges. I agree with Woggle on the SATC thing. It was an oversimplified show about caricatures. Entertaining in its way but shouldn't be taken seriously IMO.
Woggle Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I am glad people agree with me about SATC. In hindsight it actually is a well written show but the way so many back then looked at like the holy relationship bible turned me off big time. 2
Timshel Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I am glad people agree with me about SATC. In hindsight it actually is a well written show but the way so many back then looked at like the holy relationship bible turned me off big time. The minute they made fun of scrunchies, I was out. 1
Got it Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I am glad people agree with me about SATC. In hindsight it actually is a well written show but the way so many back then looked at like the holy relationship bible turned me off big time. Any show that is wrapped up in 45 minute segments with a pithy little question summing it up is the epitome of contrived and artificial.
Woggle Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Any show that is wrapped up in 45 minute segments with a pithy little question summing it up is the epitome of contrived and artificial. It's a good show though not my cup of tea but if somebody gets all their relationship insight from watching it it wouldn't surprised if they were struggling. Living in New York at the time it was like a religion to some women and they tried to apply it to real life so a single man dating had to deal with some serious WTF moments.
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 A man in his 30's who has an established career doesn't necessarily care about "catching" a woman in her 30's with all of these things. exactly, they say that despite more women having become financially-independent in this generation, women being part of the workforce now just as much as men, womens primal animal brains have not really changed(i'm not trying to say animal as being offensive, i'm referring to animal when referring to our early human ancestors, when we lived in caves, when we were more ape-like), as in women still subsonsciously, instinctively or innately seek providership traits in a guy, and since guy in his 30's who is more like to be financially stable, well-established than most guys in their 20's, he is in a better dating position, and it seems from what people say, that womens mating market value is extremely tied to her youth, because youth indicates fertility.
NGC1300 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I'm suspicious of meeting a good looking, intelligent guy 34 year old and single.. Not the first time I've seen this nonsense. We weren't good enough in our 20's, but we got into shape, progressed in our careers, became confident, and acquired all the traits women claim to want, only to be shot down because they're "suspicious" of those extra laps we've done around the sun.
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