SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Its true, I usually automatically assume 2 inches shorter than what they have posted. Even the 6'1 will list 6'2. I assume it but I don't demerit it. Am really disgusted at the amount of women who state vehemently on their profiles "no short men." It truly baffles me. This is wrongly teaching oceans of men to unduly doubt their success with women, when not all women feel this way at all. It also super-inflates the guys who happen to be tall, to having superior opinion of themselves when it is possible that they aren't of good quality. If meeting IRL, the charm and wit of any man, short or tall is going a very long way.There are many other more important things to have as criterion. OLD has caused many problems. I quit online dating because essentially I became a catalog on a page. I felt like a mannequin. A mostly unwanted mannequin. I'm short, and because of that I stood at a huge disadvantage online dating. 2
Gary S Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I have heard of short men having severe problems with online dating. If you are short, try the offline world, where your personality can shine through and it won't be an issue. Short people are winners. By the way, you want a winner not a wiener, a keeper not a creeper! 1
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I don't know, being 6'2 Online Dating still isn't easy. I get a 5-10% response rate I would say. Since Feb I've been out on dates with 3 people I've met online (but have gotten far more numbers). First person lasted 2 weeks, Second person lasted a bit over a month, and the third person I went on one date with and ultimately dropped because I was into #2 (mistake I wont make again, circular dating is the way to go) Just setup another date for next week so that'll bring me up to 4. 1
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I quit online dating because essentially I became a catalog on a page. I felt like a mannequin. A mostly unwanted mannequin. I'm short, and because of that I stood at a huge disadvantage online dating. So, it's somewhat comforting to know that I'm not the only one who has taken a hiatus with regard to OLD; and especially because you're a guy. I also think it's kind of cool (although quite unfortunate) that you feel the same way I do about OLD feeling like sifting through a catalog of endless merchandise = people. It's like, if someone finds one thing about us that doesn't click with them or doesn't like the way we look in our profile pics, they move on to the next "item". It just feels like an endless stream of thousands of people to choose from and the endless search for THAT "one" person that encompasses all of the traits (personality and physically) that we're looking for - which is impossible to find because there will never be any "one" person who will fulfill all (or even most) of our criteria. It seems that people on OLD (and I will admit that I've been guilty of this) can be picky about who they choose to date. . 2
BlueIris Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Don’t do a disclaimer. Don’t lie. Ignore the liars. You know who stands above the crowd in OLD? The guy who is flat-out honest and doesn’t have these little justifications and stories about why he lies. People who are self-confident neither lie nor change their own behavior because others lie. 1
Auspecial Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 [quote=BlackOpsZombieGirl;6259281 I also think it's kind of cool (although quite unfortunate) that you feel the same way I do about OLD feeling like sifting through a catalog of endless merchandise = people. It's like, if someone finds one thing about us that doesn't click with them or doesn't like the way we look in our profile pics, they move on to the next "item". It just feels like an endless stream of thousands of people to choose from and the endless search for THAT "one" person that encompasses all of the traits (personality and physically) that we're looking for - which is impossible to find because there will never be any "one" person who will fulfill all (or even most) of our criteria. It seems that people on OLD (and I will admit that I've been guilty of this) can be picky about who they choose to date. . Yes, it is sad and takes up so much time. Everyone wants the glossier, shiny new model. And why shouldn't they, ts just available at the click of a button. For me, OLD became a waste of my time and energy. Because you know, BlackOps, Aside from guys doing it, so was I (gigs.) I made a very conscious effort at letting yellow flags alone and trying to see the good in each person I was interested in. I think for me, it was the whole "blind date" part. So many times I would meet and know that if I had met i person, I wouldn't have agreed to go on a date. Its not fair to either of us. I'm sure there were guys who felt the same way about me, although my historic problem has been so many "act" so into me, but in reality they are just highly attracted, and just want to "try it out." I have wasted so much time like this. Meeting someone IRL first, is the only way I will date, now. Takes the "blind date" totally out of the equation, and at least you know going in, what they freggin look like, that they actually do exist, and how you dynamically react to each other. 1
katiegrl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Not really. Just don't want to message women who are my height and then not respond to me because they think I'm lying like a lot of the other guys are. But kudos to you for going straight for the insult. And yes, I've dated many women in OLD so I know I can get plenty of dates. I don't have a complex. Like I said I'm more optimistic about it. >>"Just don't want to message women who are my height and then not respond to me because they think I'm lying like a lot of the other guys are"<< I am so baffled by this comment. ^^ How the hell do you know "why" they are not responding? At 5'5", I highly doubt it's because they think you are lying about your height, that's crazy! Lol Maybe if you said you were 6'5" or just over six feet, they "might" think you're lying, but as I said before, you are short, so why would you or ANY man lie about being so short? Makes NO sense, so sorry to burst your bubble, there is **another** reason why they are not responding. They probably just don't find you attractive, regardless of your height. Edited April 8, 2015 by katiegrl
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 So, it's somewhat comforting to know that I'm not the only one who has taken a hiatus with regard to OLD; and especially because you're a guy. I also think it's kind of cool (although quite unfortunate) that you feel the same way I do about OLD feeling like sifting through a catalog of endless merchandise = people. It's like, if someone finds one thing about us that doesn't click with them or doesn't like the way we look in our profile pics, they move on to the next "item". It just feels like an endless stream of thousands of people to choose from and the endless search for THAT "one" person that encompasses all of the traits (personality and physically) that we're looking for - which is impossible to find because there will never be any "one" person who will fulfill all (or even most) of our criteria. It seems that people on OLD (and I will admit that I've been guilty of this) can be picky about who they choose to date. . I agree. I decided ultimately that being short was like going on a picnic with pessimists: the picnic could go well, but the chicken was too crispy and though that's the only complaint, that pessimist based the entire quality of said picnic on that one incident. OLD made me feel just like that, and since my 5 ft 8 height was viewed as a major flaw, I ultimately decided to end it and go out and meet people. I believe something as intimate as finding a significant other should not be relegated to consumer marketing. Why continue to play a game you're almost guaranteed to lose over and over again. Quitting it was great, plus girls at cyber cafes really seem to like me. Best part, they Don't care that I'm short! But they wanted my Xbox gamer tag!
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 In short, short guys, old is a tool. If that tool is not helping you, you can quit, cause women aren't going to change on OLD. Go out and meet people. Sheesh.
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 >>"Just don't want to message women who are my height and then not respond to me because they think I'm lying like a lot of the other guys are"<< I am so baffled by this comment. ^^ How the hell do you know "why" they are not responding? At 5'5", I highly doubt it's because they think you are lying about your height, that's crazy! Lol Maybe if you said you were 6'5" or just over six feet, they "might" think you're lying, but as I said before, you are short, so why would you or ANY man lie about being so short? Makes NO sense, so sorry to burst your bubble, there is **another** reason why they are not responding. They probably just don't find you attractive, regardless of your height. It may not be ultimately his height but pretending like that wasn't a considered factor is asinine
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I agree. I decided ultimately that being short was like going on a picnic with pessimists: the picnic could go well, but the chicken was too crispy and though that's the only complaint, that pessimist based the entire quality of said picnic on that one incident. OLD made me feel just like that, and since my 5 ft 8 height was viewed as a major flaw, I ultimately decided to end it and go out and meet people. I believe something as intimate as finding a significant other should not be relegated to consumer marketing. Why continue to play a game you're almost guaranteed to lose over and over again. Quitting it was great, plus girls at cyber cafes really seem to like me. Best part, they Don't care that I'm short! But they wanted my Xbox gamer tag! SFM, you seem to be quite articulate, intelligent, possess a cool sense of humor and it seems that you have a good head on your shoulders with regard to your attitude, demeanor and expectations in the world of dating. And um, just so you know, I really don't think 5'8" is that short! I mean, there are other guys on here who are 5'5" and SHORTER...and I could understand them having a hard time finding women who will accept their height. With what I've written above regarding your attitude and such, I find it hard to believe that you haven't been snatched up yet by an attractive intelligent woman in your area! .
katiegrl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 It may not be ultimately his height but pretending like that wasn't a considered factor is asinine You missed my point. I have no doubt his height is a factor on some level. He's short and many women prefer tall, that's a fact. What HE was suggesting was that they weren't responding because they presumed he was LYING about his height! Again, why would he presume they think he is lying? Why would he lie about being only 5'5"? Like I said if he said he was 6'5", okay. But he is only 5'5", it's ludicrous to think women think he is lying about that...and rejecting him because they think he is lying. Hope that clarifies my point. 1
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 SFM, you seem to be quite articulate, intelligent, possess a cool sense of humor and it seems that you have a good head on your shoulders with regard to your attitude, demeanor and expectations in the world of dating. And um, just so you know, I really don't think 5'8" is that short! I mean, there are other guys on here who are 5'5" and SHORTER...and I could understand them having a hard time finding women who will accept their height. With what I've written above regarding your attitude and such, I find it hard to believe that you haven't been snatched up yet by an attractive intelligent woman in your area! . I like your attitude but most of my life has been in a small, rural Alabama town. Girls here like country guys. I'm not at all country. Plus if you follow my previous threads, I've been struggling since I left town to find more work and other opportunities. So its understandable why I'm single when what I present is not what the demographic wants. These girls like country guys, I'm a gamer, love philosophy, I rap and write, and I am working on becoming a software engineer. I like the compliments though. My ego is Starved and craves Black Ops attention! Lmao.
towardthefuture Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Its true, I usually automatically assume 2 inches shorter than what they have posted. Even the 6'1 will list 6'2. I assume it but I don't demerit it. That's funny that's EXACTLY what I do. I'm 6'1'' and list 6'2''. It's just one of those things. I know if I list 6'1'' they're going to think I'm 6'0'' because padding height is just standard practice
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 well I'm 6'2.5" technically. Brb changing my OLD to 6'4
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Attractive, yes. Intelligent girls in my area? Not sure if ultra fundamentalist counts because that's my town in a nutshell. Full of old fashion, socially segregated women who carry Jesus stickers around as a sign of social status but view gays and blacks as inferior, not all but a lot.
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 You missed my point. I have no doubt his height is a factor on some level. He's short and many women prefer tall, that's a fact. What HE was suggesting was that they weren't responding because they presumed he was LYING about his height! Again, why would he presume they think he is lying? Why would he lie about being only 5'5"? Like I said if he said he was 6'5", okay. But he is only 5'5", it's ludicrous to think women think he is lying about that...and rejecting him because they think he is lying. Hope that clarifies my point. It does, but I think personally he should just quit the game. People got along fine before old.
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 SFM, you seem to be quite articulate, intelligent, possess a cool sense of humor and it seems that you have a good head on your shoulders with regard to your attitude, demeanor and expectations in the world of dating. And um, just so you know, I really don't think 5'8" is that short! . Actually, I was supposed to be 6 ft 4, but all of those inches went to somewhere else on my body. Ya win some, you lose some.
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 well I'm 6'2.5" technically. Brb changing my OLD to 6'4 Hehe.....a smart ass on top of everything! Even for a woman like me who's 5'7", being with a guy as tall as you are I'd be craning my neck to look up at ya, and you'd be getting a neck cramp looking down at a woman my height! Trust me, you DON'T need to change your height to 2 inches taller on OLD lol . 1
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Hehe.....a smart ass on top of everything! Even for a woman like me who's 5'7", being with a guy as tall as you are I'd be craning my neck to look up at ya, and you'd be getting a neck cramp looking down at a woman my height! Trust me, you DON'T need to change your height to 2 inches taller on OLD lol . 5'7 is a good height I have no issues with Women that tall. Now if you're 5'4 or shorter, it can be difficult... Haha.
Mjm1014 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 OP, I'm 5'6 and I get plenty of messages, even from some really attractive ones. Sure, you may not get as many messages as someone that's 6'0 (no brainier), but I doubt your height is the main issue honestly. If you want the number of your messages to be reduced further, sure go ahead and put that negativity in your profile. I got mad one day and did that and I stopped getting messages right away. I learned something important over the years, NEVER mention any issue of height to any female or they will label you as insecure immediately destroying any chance you have with her. How would you feel if some girl made a insecure comment in her profile about being fat? I wouldn't immediately be turned off about her being fat, but her insecurity sure would! Plus, if a girl is so caught up in height that she has to subtract 2 inches then clearly she wants a very tall guy or puts extra emphasis on that and I feel you'll prob be an option until someone taller comes along-you know the kind of females that don't care about any aspect of a guy (personality, career, nice) besides how tall he is...I'd stay clear of someone that picky. One thing that's helped me is to keep in shape so you have the right to put "athletic, jacked, fit" in your profile verses average. I think if you also put something in your profile that conveys you like to keep in shape, as long as its true, will do wonders. Let me say this one more time....never be insecure about your height with females whether that's in person or online. My friend that's 5'3 is jacked-I bet some 6 foot guys would be intimidated by this guy-he looks like he could be a freakin navy seal... I've seen him get with more females than anyone that I know..show them you have a good personality, stay in shape, and disregard anyone that degrades you solely on height. No time for people like that. Good luck op. 1
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Attractive, yes. Intelligent girls in my area? Not sure if ultra fundamentalist counts because that's my town in a nutshell. Full of old fashion, socially segregated women who carry Jesus stickers around as a sign of social status but view gays and blacks as inferior, not all but a lot. Well then, have you thought about dating girls that are just outside of your area? I wouldn't mind driving an hour to meet up with a guy if he had the characteristics and physical appeal that attracts me instead of running into dead ends with unappealing guys in my locality. I saw the pic of yourself that you uploaded before you changed it to an anime character (I *love* anime - yeah yeah I'm derpy, oh well lol), you're a good looking guy...so, I think all you need to do is think OUTSIDE the box of your AREA with regard to the women you want to date. Maybe expand your area on the OLD you're currently on up to 50 miles or so...just a thought. @Barcode: Why would it be difficult for you if a woman is 5'4" or shorter? Oh, I know...is it because when you kiss her, you don't want to throw out your C4 vertebrae? . 1
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Well then, have you thought about dating girls that are just outside of your area? I wouldn't mind driving an hour to meet up with a guy if he had the characteristics and physical appeal that attracts me instead of running into dead ends with unappealing guys in my locality. I saw the pic of yourself that you uploaded before you changed it to an anime character (I *love* anime - yeah yeah I'm derpy, oh well lol), you're a good looking guy...so, I think all you need to do is think OUTSIDE the box of your AREA with regard to the women you want to date. Maybe expand your area on the OLD you're currently on up to 50 miles or so...just a thought. @Barcode: Why would it be difficult for you if a woman is 5'4" or shorter? Oh, I know...is it because when you kiss her, you don't want to throw out your C4 vertebrae? . Funny you should mention that. Last year i got a few dates from women who lived up to 200 miles away. 5 to be precise. Damn you saw my picture? The lighting was horrible so I took it down. Also wanted to send the message that I love anime. BTW, your signals are coming in loud and clear.
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