syncopation Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) I'm 5'5 and I know a lot of guys lie about their height in OLD and have read a lot of women automatically take off 2 inches from their height. So would putting a disclaimer like I have below be a stupid thing to put on my profile? Disclaimer: Don't take two inches off my height, I don't pull the douchey move like some of the other guys on here and lie about it, I own it, I'm going to live longer and don't hit my head on sh*t Edited April 8, 2015 by syncopation
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Ahhh gotta love short man syndrome Everyone is out to get you! No - in all seriousness just because you're 5'5 doesn't mean women won't date you. Just don't go for Women who are 5'10, just like I don't go for Women who are 5'0. 1
Author syncopation Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Ahhh gotta love short man syndrome Everyone is out to get you! No - in all seriousness just because you're 5'5 doesn't mean women won't date you. Just don't go for Women who are 5'10, just like I don't go for Women who are 5'0. Not really. Just don't want to message women who are my height and then not respond to me because they think I'm lying like a lot of the other guys are. But kudos to you for going straight for the insult. And yes, I've dated many women in OLD so I know I can get plenty of dates. I don't have a complex. Like I said I'm more optimistic about it. Edited April 8, 2015 by syncopation
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Not really. Just don't want to message women who are my height and then not respond to me because they think I'm lying like a lot of the other guys are. But kudos to you for going straight for the insult. And yes, I've dated many women in OLD so I know I can get plenty of dates. I don't have a complex. Like I said I'm more optimistic about it. Or maybe... They didn't respond because they're not interested for reasons other than your height? Online dating is a huge numbers game no matter what your height is, and most guys don't get responses from most women.
Author syncopation Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 Or maybe... They didn't respond because they're not interested for reasons other than your height? Online dating is a huge numbers game no matter what your height is, and most guys don't get responses from most women. Yes, I realize all of that. Getting a 30% or so response rate is good for any guy. If I send ten messages, I'll get 3 responses and go on a date with 1 or 2 of them. My main point is that some girl who is my height may see my message, then automatically take 2 inches off because the other douches are lying and then not respond because of that. That is what I'm trying to prevent. So getting back to my main point, do you think women would see that and think it's a stupid thing to put in my profile.
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Yes, I realize all of that. Getting a 30% or so response rate is good for any guy. If I send ten messages, I'll get 3 responses and go on a date with 1 or 2 of them. My main point is that some girl who is my height may see my message, then automatically take 2 inches off because the other douches are lying and then not respond because of that. That is what I'm trying to prevent. So getting back to my main point, do you think women would see that and think it's a stupid thing to put in my profile. 30% is pretty good odds, not sure why you're complaining.
Author syncopation Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 30% is pretty good odds, not sure why you're complaining. I'm not complaining. Just trying to up my odds.
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I'm not complaining. Just trying to up my odds. You're coming across as bitter for being short. Everyone has to deal with the cards they're dealt.
strawberryshortstack Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I'm 5'5 and I know a lot of guys lie about their height in OLD and have read a lot of women automatically take off 2 inches from their height. So would putting a disclaimer like I have below be a stupid thing to put on my profile? Disclaimer: Don't take two inches off my height, I don't pull the douchey move like some of the other guys on here and lie about it, I own it, I'm going to live longer and don't hit my head on sh*t I think you're overthinking this. 1
towardthefuture Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Don't put a disclaimer. One you're drawing attention to one of your own (perceived) flaws. If anything usually people can kind of guestimate height from the photos. Second, just lie about your height dude. If you can't beat 'em join 'em. Put 5'6''. No one's going to call you out on an inch at a first date.
EngnimaticResponse Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I'm not complaining. Just trying to up my odds. Are you friggin' kidding me?! 30% is an INSANE return. You're one of the lucky few. I have been on and off online dating sites for the past 15 years. In that time, I have sent well over 300 messages and had only ONE get to a first date. Of the 2 dozen others that replied they all "poofed".
Author syncopation Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Are you friggin' kidding me?! 30% is an INSANE return. You're one of the lucky few. I have been on and off online dating sites for the past 15 years. In that time, I have sent well over 300 messages and had only ONE get to a first date. Of the 2 dozen others that replied they all "poofed". Yes, poofing is a pain. What type of messages are you sending? Go with this, 4 lines, don't say anything about their looks, make a comment about something in their profile and try and relate to it. And end with a question. Oh, and don't rattle on too much in you're responses, unless they are. But still, keep it somewhat short. I usually ask them out on the 5th message I've sent. That's when they accept the date, poof or want to keep talking. I'll go back and forth with another ten total messages over the next few days and ask them out again. If they don't bite then they're a penpal and just there for attention, don't give it to them. Don't offer to pick the girl up on the first few dates, just meet them somewhere. Women have safety concerns that just isn't on our radar as guys. Oh, and find a girl to look over your profile (sister, cousin, friend, whatever). No tiger photos, no shirtless photos. EVER. Women hate that crap. If you get a couple messages back and forth and they don't ask you a question then respond with "Do you have any questions for me?". After that if the conversation is more of a back and forth then stay with them. If not then they're a penpal. I recently had this happen. I sent a couple messages to the girl, she answered but didn't ask anything about me. Then I prodded her with the question above and then conversation started to flow. Going on a 2nd date with her this Saturday. Edited April 8, 2015 by syncopation 1
PegNosePete Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 You are getting a very good response rate so whatever you're doing, keep doing it. No I don't think such a disclaimer is a good idea. It just makes you seem aggressively insecure. 1
Gary S Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I would not change anything with a response rate like that. You are super-human.
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Or maybe... They didn't respond because they're not interested for reasons other than your height? Online dating is a huge numbers game no matter what your height is, and most guys don't get responses from most women. ^^^ I was going to say THIS, but Barcode beat me to it! I'd also like to add that, as a woman, if I saw your "disclaimer" on your profile, I would immediately feel pity for you because your "disclaimer" screams loud that you're insecure about your height - but to your credit, I would also think, "wow, this guy is confident enough to let everyone know right off the bat that he doesn't lie about how tall he is like a lot of other guys do." So, reading your "disclaimer" on your profile would make me feel a little mixed with regard to how I'd perceive you. Now, if after reading that, I read the rest of your profile, you were cute and wrote things about yourself that I could connect with, then your "disclaimer" would be something I'd forget about quickly. . 1
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 ^^^ I was going to say THIS, but Barcode beat me to it! I'd also like to add that, as a woman, if I saw your "disclaimer" on your profile, I would immediately feel pity for you because your "disclaimer" screams loud that you're insecure about your height - but to your credit, I would also think, "wow, this guy is confident enough to let everyone know right off the bat that he doesn't lie about how tall he is like a lot of other guys do." So, reading your "disclaimer" on your profile would make me feel a little mixed with regard to how I'd perceive you. Now, if after reading that, I read the rest of your profile, you were cute and wrote things about yourself that I could connect with, then your "disclaimer" would be something I'd forget about quickly. . I'll let you be the expert since you're a female, but it doesn't sound confident to me. It sounds (like you said) insecure, and in a way desperate.
Erised Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 No disclaimers, ever. They never come across well. Chances are if you put your height it's short enough it won't seem inflated. I found 5'8 to 6'0 were most likely inflated heights. If a guy listed 6'3 he was probably 6'3; if he listed 5'7 he was probably 5'7 1
BlackOpsZombieGirl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I'll let you be the expert since you're a female, but it doesn't sound confident to me. It sounds (like you said) insecure, and in a way desperate. Well, what I meant by that was that I'd think that at least he was "confident enough" to let all of the female population know that he doesn't add inches to his height like a LOT of guys do on OLD. But as I've stated before, just the very nature of his "disclaimer" would make me feel sorry for him, for the fact that he felt he had to post that "disclaimer" in the first place; because a guy who was truly confident and didn't give a $hit about how short he is would NOT have even THOUGHT to write that in the first place. . 1
PegNosePete Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Well, what I meant by that was that I'd think that at least he was "confident enough" to let all of the female population know that he doesn't add inches to his height like a LOT of guys do on OLD. Either that or he's actually 5'3", and putting in this disclaimer to make you think he's a confident 5'5"er rather than an insecure 5'3".
Gary S Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 As an aside, I lie about age by one year in my profile because I don't want to put my real birth date. It's a security measure to prevent identity theft. I also add two inches to my height. Why? - because so many of my dates would remark that I seem taller, I just got sick of the small talk about my height.
blackcat777 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 When you're trying to sell yourself, any negativity is a bad thing. If you sent me a message on OLD and I saw a disclaimer like that in your profile, I'd move on. There are a lot of creepy people out there on OLD. I've had people flip out because I didn't answer their message quickly enough. Other people would send me longwinded crying spiels about how they can't meet anyone in real life and OLD is their last resort. Anything that smacks of the slightest instability or strangeness of character is an instant delete. Negativity is an instant delete. This is the honest thought process of a woman sifting through 50+ message a day. Lots of chicks get lots of messages, and you want to stand out... but never in a bad way. Most importantly, screw anyone who maintains weird math equations about prospective partners' heights, anyway.
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Well, what I meant by that was that I'd think that at least he was "confident enough" to let all of the female population know that he doesn't add inches to his height like a LOT of guys do on OLD. But as I've stated before, just the very nature of his "disclaimer" would make me feel sorry for him, for the fact that he felt he had to post that "disclaimer" in the first place; because a guy who was truly confident and didn't give a $hit about how short he is would NOT have even THOUGHT to write that in the first place. . Oh okay I see where you're coming from 1
katiegrl Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Not really. **Just don't want to message women who are my height and then not respond to me because they think I'm lying like a lot of the other guys are.*** But kudos to you for going straight for the insult. And yes, I've dated many women in OLD so I know I can get plenty of dates. I don't have a complex. Like I said I'm more optimistic about it. Trust me, if you say you are 5'5", NO woman is gonna think you are lying. Makes no sense, I mean why would you or any man lie about being shorter? Men lie and say they are *taller* not shorter. And women lie about their height too? Saying *they* are shorter than they actually are? That's a new one. Take the disclaimer out, it sounds douchey. Continue being honest and when you meet a chick, and discover she lied in her profile, and you are not attracted to her, feel free to politely excuse yourself and end the date. No need to get bitter about it. Just "next" her and continue your search. 2
Auspecial Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Its true, I usually automatically assume 2 inches shorter than what they have posted. Even the 6'1 will list 6'2. I assume it but I don't demerit it. Am really disgusted at the amount of women who state vehemently on their profiles "no short men." It truly baffles me. This is wrongly teaching oceans of men to unduly doubt their success with women, when not all women feel this way at all. It also super-inflates the guys who happen to be tall, to having superior opinion of themselves when it is possible that they aren't of good quality. If meeting IRL, the charm and wit of any man, short or tall is going a very long way.There are many other more important things to have as criterion. OLD has caused many problems.
SearchingForMyself Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Funny trick I did on on line dating before I quit. I baited women. Baited, you ask? I made my introduction Title "Not into overweight women, so don't bother" But then began my intro with the sentence, "Unless you have a great personality!" I was doing it for giggles but the tactic worked so well I got at least 5 messages a day from women. All asking me why I wouldn't date a bigger woman. One girl I got into a conversation over it. Next day she asked me on a date. What happened? It seems that if I was bold enough to blatantly admit a huge majority of women online, it actually gave them a false perception that I was valuable and confident. Although they called me a jerk, they then wanted to prove my preference wrong. Basically, op, if a woman is going to be heightist, then I have every right to be critical about weight. 1
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