Krieger Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Nope not at all, and they are a candidate of being fired from their employer should they ever administer a little unannounced pee test. I know right people are stupid if it was legal company's still can and will drug test for it. If people think company's are just going to stop drug testing your crazy. I wish more people would be pot heads so I can pass them by and become successful and they cant find a job and can never retire .
guest569 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Cannabis kills brain cells is a lie. The greatest classic rock songs were written by pot smokers! Think about it. Oh yes, and look at them now! *sigh* deal breaker for me.
Krieger Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I never meet a person that just smokes pot once a month or once a week . Why would you need it if you only did once a week or once a month? It just like cigarette smokers have you ever meet one that just smokes one cigarette a month or week? 1
TaxAHCruel Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I never meet a person that just smokes pot once a month or once a week . Why would you need it if you only did once a week or once a month? Why do some people only go to the pub once a month? Why do some people only go to the cinema once a month? Why do people not eat cake every day? Perhaps it has nothing to do with "needing it" as you put it - and more to do with a periodic indulgence. Never knew one should not indulge in something unless one does so constantly and consistently. I missed that memo I guess. 3
Krieger Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Why do some people only go to the pub once a month? Why do some people only go to the cinema once a month? Why do people not eat cake every day? Perhaps it has nothing to do with "needing it" as you put it - and more to do with a periodic indulgence. Never knew one should not indulge in something unless one does so constantly and consistently. I missed that memo I guess. Well every big company in America drug test and it not worth it to me to lose your job over pot. Josh Gordon has been suspended by the NFL again meaning he will miss the entire 2015 season and forfeit his $1.07m salary and a portion of the $2.3m bonus. Pot is not worth millions of dollars it might be to some but to me if a company says you cant do it do not do it. Also going to the cinema and eating cake will not cost you your job.
TaxAHCruel Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Well every big company in America drug test and it not worth it to me to lose your job over pot. Josh Gordon has been suspended by the NFL again meaning he will miss the entire 2015 season and forfeit his $1.07m salary and a portion of the $2.3m bonus. Pot is not worth millions of dollars it might be to some but to me if a company says you cant do it do not do it. Also going to the cinema and eating cake will not cost you your job. All points I agree with - but it still does not explain the "Why do it at all if you are nto doing it all the time" stance - which is what I was questioning. But yes context is everything and if you are - as you exampled - a sportsperson or in a company with express practices of testing - then you would be pretty foolish to engage in it. Thankfully here in Ireland where I live it is not only not the done thing - I have NEVER heard it being done. With the possible exception of the armed forces, the police, and so forth. But companies in Ireland in general simply do not check for this kind of thing. Though - being Ireland - most of the loss of earnings and so forth likely comes from hangovers rather than people having the occasional indulgence of pot.
Author Hopeful30 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Nope not at all, and they are a candidate of being fired from their employer should they ever administer a little unannounced pee test. I don't agree with that. If people are perfectly capable of doing their jobs, and well, then who cares what they do on their spare time? I wish they would do alcohol tests to see how often people get wasted, or sex tests to see how promiscuous you are. Surely if they care about what you smoke (which doesn't affect your work for most people) then they should care about other things you put in your body too! I never meet a person that just smokes pot once a month or once a week . Why would you need it if you only did once a week or once a month? It just like cigarette smokers have you ever meet one that just smokes one cigarette a month or week? Why do people only drink once or twice a month? Or go dancing? Or have sex maybe? Youre closed minded and your views are very narrow. Open up man. Well every big company in America drug test and it not worth it to me to lose your job over pot. Josh Gordon has been suspended by the NFL again meaning he will miss the entire 2015 season and forfeit his $1.07m salary and a portion of the $2.3m bonus. Pot is not worth millions of dollars it might be to some but to me if a company says you cant do it do not do it. Also going to the cinema and eating cake will not cost you your job. That's in America, mind you. Not so in many other parts of the world. Again, open up your mind, not everything is just as you think it is lol
PegNosePete Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 If people are perfectly capable of doing their jobs, and well, then who cares what they do on their spare time? Tell that to Bill Clinton. I wish they would do alcohol tests to see how often people get wasted, or sex tests to see how promiscuous you are. Surely if they care about what you smoke (which doesn't affect your work for most people) then they should care about other things you put in your body too! Sure, when alcohol and sex become illegal then I'd support that. 1
Omei Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Ive never had weed smoking effect my work ethic but I never go to work stoned and would never. I never get drunk I dislike the uncontrolled emotions, wobbling around, memory loss Being high is like a calm over your mind or body its hard to explain but you're still in control. I see a lot of American responces there is def more fear and less acceptance down there not to offend but I can tell here in Canada is widely accepted and the view is a little more slack, were also lighter on the charges many people can carry good amounts as long as they dont have intent to sell (having other items such as bags and scales) and are allowed to keep what they have. Were also allowed a day each year to protest in peace and smoke publicly. Edited March 31, 2015 by Omei
veggirl Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Would rather date someone smoking weed than someone doped up on chemical lab made drugs to regulate themself. Like all the anti depressant sht and whatnot.
Rejected Rosebud Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I don't understand why not unless you are living a "clean and sober" lifestyle and being around any kind of intoxicant, like beer or vodka or pot, might make you uncomfortable or risk your own sobriety, what would be the problem?? I mean if she has a job where she is subject to random tests and she is willing to risk her job in order to smoke well that might indicate a problem but what is wrong with smoking pot once in a while??:confused: It is so much less destructive than drinking you guys!! :bunny: It's gonna be legal federally soon, I don't see how that can be avoided, where I live it is!
Krieger Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I don't understand why not unless you are living a "clean and sober" lifestyle and being around any kind of intoxicant, like beer or vodka or pot, might make you uncomfortable or risk your own sobriety, what would be the problem?? I mean if she has a job where she is subject to random tests and she is willing to risk her job in order to smoke well that might indicate a problem but what is wrong with smoking pot once in a while??:confused: It is so much less destructive than drinking you guys!! :bunny: It's gonna be legal federally soon, I don't see how that can be avoided, where I live it is! what is wrong with smoking meth every once in a while or heroin? There still going to do drug test and still going to get pulled over if your to high to drive. Second you said it right there she willing to risk her job well I only date woman that have a career not a dead end job. Also if she willing to lose her job because she smokes pot that great wife material right there guys you two are saving for a house or to have a kid and she cant keep a job. Edited March 31, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Fix quote
No_Go Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Beware for people with addictions. Not saying that your girl has a severe issue, or any issue at all, but make sure she's being completely honest with you and she's not hiding a bigger problem behind the "casual pot smoking 3-4 times a week"... My experience: I dated a guy who told me he enjoys a glass of wine 3-4 times a week. I noticed though it is a daily habit (but closed my eyes on that because he told me it was "just now, just because he's stressed"). Well, after we moved in together I discovered: - his "glass of wine" 3-4 times a week is in fact 2 bottles of wine DAILY - he has been functional alcoholic for years (treated multiple times for this and for drug use) - he can't keep a job anymore mainly because of his "small habit" Just giving this as an example why you should proceed with caution... Let's say moderately, so a few times a week. And no, she isn't the stereotype, she's just a regular girl who you would otherwise have no idea she smokes until she tells you. Thoughts?
Krieger Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 All points I agree with - but it still does not explain the "Why do it at all if you are nto doing it all the time" stance - which is what I was questioning. But yes context is everything and if you are - as you exampled - a sportsperson or in a company with express practices of testing - then you would be pretty foolish to engage in it. Thankfully here in Ireland where I live it is not only not the done thing - I have NEVER heard it being done. With the possible exception of the armed forces, the police, and so forth. But companies in Ireland in general simply do not check for this kind of thing. Though - being Ireland - most of the loss of earnings and so forth likely comes from hangovers rather than people having the occasional indulgence of pot. Well if she only did once a month or week why does she need it? Is her life that hard ? Is she to stressed out and need to relax? Does she use it to feel better about her crap life? Dose she do it to feel good? Does she have an addictive personality that can lead to other drugs? I hope they do make it legal so pot heads have nothing to talk about. I know way more about drug addiction and about addiction than most people . Have you ever seen someone OD on heroin I have .
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 A lot of the times people will smoke pot in a social setting with a group (just like people drink), and I don't think this is neccesarily bad. The only difference between Pot and Alcohol is legality. Both are bad in excess, but occasional social use isn't a terrible thing. 2
Krieger Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Beware for people with addictions. Not saying that your girl has a severe issue, or any issue at all, but make sure she's being completely honest with you and she's not hiding a bigger problem behind the "casual pot smoking 3-4 times a week"... My experience: I dated a guy who told me he enjoys a glass of wine 3-4 times a week. I noticed though it is a daily habit (but closed my eyes on that because he told me it was "just now, just because he's stressed"). Well, after we moved in together I discovered: - his "glass of wine" 3-4 times a week is in fact 2 bottles of wine DAILY - he has been functional alcoholic for years (treated multiple times for this and for drug use) - he can't keep a job anymore mainly because of his "small habit" Just giving this as an example why you should proceed with caution... That is why I do not drink I know if I drink and try to work and go to school it will not work. One tequila cranberry juice lead me to dink 1/2 the fifth. When I am on vacation I will drink but I have to much going for me to start drinking like I used to.
sweetjasmine Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I see a lot of American responces there is def more fear and less acceptance down there not to offend but I can tell here in Canada is widely accepted and the view is a little more slack, were also lighter on the charges many people can carry good amounts as long as they dont have intent to sell (having other items such as bags and scales) and are allowed to keep what they have. Were also allowed a day each year to protest in peace and smoke publicly. Of course there's more fear and less acceptance. In some parts of this country, getting caught with pot can ruin your life. It doesn't matter how much I disagree with employers firing people for drug use on their own time. Saying "that's not fair" isn't going to save someone's job or keep them out of trouble with the law. In some industries, it can kill your entire career. 2
No_Go Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Yeah, I think only the people that have VERY good self control (rarely found) can afford to drink or use recreational drugs in the work week. The positive: life can be fun without it too;) That is why I do not drink I know if I drink and try to work and go to school it will not work. One tequila cranberry juice lead me to dink 1/2 the fifth. When I am on vacation I will drink but I have to much going for me to start drinking like I used to.
Rejected Rosebud Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 what is wrong with smoking meth every once in a while or heroin? well I guess it depends where you live but here smoking pot is more comparable to drinking beer than meth or heroin. There still going to do drug test and still going to get pulled over if your to high to drive. yes I agree that if she is in a work situation where smoking will be discovered on a test and ruin her career that is a BIG problem and if she is willing to risk that there is probably a problem with her attitude about using stuff. You can't drive intoxicated no matter what the substance is legal or not. Second you said it right there she willing to risk her job well I only date woman that have a career not a dead end job. Also if she willing to lose her job because she smokes pot that great wife material right there guys you two are saving for a house or to have a kid and she cant keep a job. Yes yes yes I agree that if she is willing to risk her job so she can smoke pot it is a problem, what if she is an artist, tour guide, writer or a college student. 3
Omei Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Yes yes yes I agree that if she is willing to risk her job so she can smoke pot it is a problem, what if she is an artist, tour guide, writer or a college student. I agree if anyone is risking their job to smoke its a bad idea but those who go into fields that require regular drug testing don't smoke to begin with or quit, they're aware of the consequence if a person is still smoking knowing all this then id say they don't care about their job at all to begin with. 1
Omei Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) There still going to do drug test and still going to get pulled over if your to high to drive. You can't get pulled over and arrested because someone thinks you're high if they search your car (they need a warrant if driving on the road probable cause and you have the right to refuse a search a lot of people don't know that) and find amounts of pot yeah you can be charged and a cop can pull you over under suspicion of you being high and you might be but he can't arrest you or write a ticket without proof so if you have nothing on you but you're high there is nothing they can do. Edited March 31, 2015 by Omei
Quiet Storm Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 That is why I do not drink I know if I drink and try to work and go to school it will not work. One tequila cranberry juice lead me to dink 1/2 the fifth. When I am on vacation I will drink but I have to much going for me to start drinking like I used to. Yeah, I can see why you wouldn't want to smoke pot. You couldn't trust yourself to not overdo it. For you, weed would be a bad thing. It's great that you can recognize your weakness with substances, but not everyone has that issue. There are many people (like myself) who are professional, educated, successful and smart and do smoke occasionally. I smoke once a week. It has been decriminalized in my state, so the worst that could happen is a $100 fine equivalent to a parking ticket. There would be no arrest and no criminal record. I've been doing it for 20+ years, and I've never been arrested, it's never affected my employment and it's never led me to use harder drugs like coke, meth, etc. My oldest graduated HS with honors, learned to speak multiple languages and is attending a great college with goals of being an ambassador. My younger two are honor roll students, one of them a travel soccer player and the other a talented saxophone player. They and my husband would tell you I'm a great mom. Why do I do it? The same reasons that people drink recreationally- to relax, to start the weekend, to enhance sex with my husband, to make watching a funny movie funnier. It's basically just an enhancement to life for a few hours. Do I need it? No. Do I want to do it every day? No. I agree that you have every right to your own dating preferences, but you have these ideas in your head about weed smokers that are stereotypical and inaccurate. I understand that you have been shaped by your personal experiences, but open your mind a little. Just like some people overdo drinking, you will have some potheads that overdo weed. However, you probably would not assume that a person who has a few drinks at happy hour will turn into a raging alcoholic. In the same light, I ask that you not assume that someone who smokes recreationally is a dumb zombie who neglects their kids. 7
rester Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Yes yes yes I agree that if she is willing to risk her job so she can smoke pot it is a problem, what if she is an artist, tour guide, writer or a college student. ...or even a licensed professional that is able to do what s/he wants in their free time without the fear of losing a job. I agree risking a job/career is not wise, but there are plenty of attorneys, engineers, architects, accountants, doctors, teachers, university professors, insurance professionals, financial planners, electricians, etc, that do not get tested for drug use. Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't, but that's up to the company that employs them and it's an entirely different topic. People that smoke pot from time to time are not limited to dead-end retail jobs or low wages...at least not in my experience and in the circle of friends and business contacts I've accumulated in the last 20 years. Yes, it does have the effect of making some people lazy...but so does beer. I can understand why people don't want to go near the stuff due to legal or moral or other personal reasons but to compare it to meth or heroin and assume everyone that does it is bound to a life of minimum wage or worse is not a correct assumption. 2
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