Vercetti Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 For me, I don't trust any adult that has to be reminded multiple times a week with arbatary threats and rewards how to act. Divorce percentage with Christians is same as pagens, make of that what you will.
Timshel Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 For me, I don't trust any adult that has to be reminded multiple times a week with arbatary threats and rewards how to act. Divorce percentage with Christians is same as pagens, make of that what you will. Yep. Let's call them "Christians," with quotes. That's all they are.
Popsicle Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 The only thing that guarantees is that he knows "the rules". That doesn't mean he's going to follow them though, because, of course, we're all sinners. I've seen many who haven't.
Author Peachland Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 He did reach out to me while on vacation and sent me a picture of his stay. He also called me as soon as he got back today. I kept the conversation very light and casual and then he asked when I was free this week and set up a date. Despite being a walking contradiction with respect to his religious views I really like his spirit and passion for life. I've hit the reset button and plan to keep it casual and sex free at least for the next several weeks.
katiegrl Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 He did reach out to me while on vacation and sent me a picture of his stay. He also called me as soon as he got back today. I kept the conversation very light and casual and then he asked when I was free this week and set up a date. Despite being a walking contradiction with respect to his religious views I really like his spirit and passion for life. I've hit the reset button and plan to keep it casual and sex free at least for the next several weeks. Sounds good...good luck!
PumpkinLumpkin Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Despite being a walking contradiction with respect to his religious views I really like his spirit and passion for life. Praise the lord!!! 1
LookAtThisPOst Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Though I am Christian, I tend to stay away from the "God-fearing" types. I recall this one woman, moved to my area, 50 years old, looked pretty young for her age. She had no kids, never married, but lived in the boonies near a lot of retirement communities. She USED to live in the big city an hour from where I live years ago, but found the backwater town to be "God's calling." We were both outdoor enthusiasts, as she DID move to an area lush with a large forest and recreational areas to do most outdoor activities. We talked about kayaking and where we kayaked. But...as soon as she found out I wasn't of the "Born again" variety of Christian, she QUICKLY cut me off. Turns out she was one of those Pentecostal types. But hey, she's kind of screwing herself over by doing that, esp. living in a backwater town filled with retirees and men with missing teeth. I recently saw her join a Meetup...I'd be curious if she ever actually attends an event. I tend to stay away from the overly preachy types, esp. in their profiles. Usually if they overuse the word "Lord" or "God" in the profile, too many times, it's kind of a red flag to me. Its as if they are overcompensating. Edited March 24, 2015 by LookAtThisPOst 1
GemmaUK Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 My last ex was Christian. He was also manipulative, controlling, emotionally abusive and only the once held his hand up to strike me. I don't know whether he ever lied to me but I suspect he probably did. I wouldn't date someone who said they were god fearing, for me that's a culture and mind set that I just don't get. 1
Toodaloo Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Are religious men more trustworthy? Over in the UK we have a little proverb. I can't remember the exact wording but it basically says that being Catholic is great. Monday - Saturday you get to sin all you want then come Sunday you are forgiven for a few Hail Marys... Keep your ears and eyes open. A good man is a good man regardless of the number of times he goes to church... I shall keep fingers crossed for you that he is indeed a good man.
amaysngrace Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Over in the UK we have a little proverb. I can't remember the exact wording but it basically says that being Catholic is great. Monday - Saturday you get to sin all you want then come Sunday you are forgiven for a few Hail Marys... Whoever says that must not know that Catholics are taught to respect all belief in God, not mock them and call it a proverb.
Auspecial Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Thanks for the replies. You are confirming what I was thinking especially since he was so willing to sleep with me so soon. Yes ^^^ This is worrying me. He already had a planned Spring Break to the islands for 5 days. He told me in advance he probably wouldn't be in touch which I can understand. I am trying not to overthink it but the lack of contact with no meeting last week due to work, illness, etc and no planned date next week is bothering me. Uhm.......can't be in touch for five days, after being intimate with you? hmmmm.........
Toodaloo Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Whoever says that must not know that Catholics are taught to respect all belief in God, not mock them and call it a proverb. It was actually a very devote Catholic woman (Nun for over 60 years) who taught me that. I was around the age of 5/6 yrs at the time. She was teaching me that going to church was not enough, but many seemed to think it was... Faith doesn't begin and end after the Sunday service/ your 5 minutes in the confession box. She was a very good woman. I don't think she was mocking the faith at all. There are plenty of similar "proverbs" in all faiths and social groups. 2
pulsar Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I'm a non-Christian guy (aligned with Buddhism) currently dating a Christian woman who is devout. She also happens to be open to other cultures and societies and doesn't judge others for their beliefs. We have a great connection and get along great. We both believe in God and neither she nor I broadcast our beliefs to others our label ourselves or others. I've noticed many Christian's view non-Christians as pariah. The crux being that from her experience, Christian men tend to be insecure and or controlling and use terms like 'God fearing' or 'Christian like' to justify their beliefs and actions. Thus, she doesn't date Christian men. Additionally, many Christian women will marry such men because: a) They're Christian thus it's a Christian thing to do. b) That's what God would want Don't fall for such things, let his actions be an indicator. Also, look at the persons heart. 3
Diezel Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Generally, you'll find more trustworthy people in that group (religious people). You will? Any stats to support this? 1
johncarl Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I think being very religious has little to do with being trustworthy. There are trustworthy and untrustworthy people in every "group"; creed, ethnicity, political affiliation, profession, etc. It really just comes down to whether or not he's trustworthy. My personal bias is that people who are very religious have a tendency to think that what really matters is their relationship with God: if they do what God apparently wants them to do then they're sitting well in God's eyes. I've known religious people who are very pious and delightful in every way possible: trustworthy, kind, generous, understanding, professional, intelligent, etc. I've also known very religious people who are total hypocrites and religious people who think their piousness makes them superior to others and therefore they can do whatever they like: e.g. I've met very religious people who think that non-religious people aren't worthy of a high standard of treatment because they aren't religious. Sooooo, what I'm saying is: it really depends on other things. You can't determine if someone is trustworthy solely on the basis of their religiosity or lack thereof. 1
todreaminblue Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) You will? Any stats to support this? I think it would read better like this..... "generally you should find more trustworthy people in groups like this" people who follow god sin like everyone else...no better no worse......the difference might be is if they truly believe in god and jesus they try hard not to sin.... i dont really like how this thread is making out that religious people are freaks and weird and more corrupt because that isnt true...... i have had my fair share of seeing the bad side of people including supposed god fearing men....... we all have the capacity to do bad things..it isnt signified by a group or affiliation we join but is signified from the heart of the person and the true intentions held within.we are all unique individuals with agency to do as we choose to do.......that cannot be seen from a glance ....or a two week period.......or understood and comprehended from knowing someone a couple of months..... i am probably one of the "worst" sinners in my church......i am an ex hooker......and i believe in god and jesus....i used to feel hypocritical sitting in church....never felt like i belonged there....truth is i do..bishops have told me so....even though they know my history.... church isnt a place for just perfect people to sit and chat adn talk about perfect lives........its a hospital for the broken and the sick ....the forgotten and the abused...its a place for sinners to make it right with god...........and the ex hookers just like me of the world yeah we sit in the pews......i dont think i am weird or corrupt ..different yeah.....boring.....nah....if you expect perfection from church members...i think that is pretty much delusional thinking.we are all sinners only jesus wasnt........i think expecting people who try their heart out,who surely make an effort to be true to god and jesus and keep the covenants and promises made.might be more apt...and really only god knows the truth about that.............deb Edited March 24, 2015 by todreaminblue 3
Nikki Sahagin Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I wouldn't say it means much TBH. On the surface they have better values but I've met religious married men who've tried to cheat with me or indulged other perversions due to such intense restraint.
PogoStick Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Check out Ted Haggard. Minister of one of the largest, most conservative mega-churches in the country. He was also smoking meth and having a gay affair with a "man" who was 30 years younger. 1
DivorcedDad123 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 todreaminblue has the most realistic view of "Godly and Christian" I've seen. If you take a peak inside the Bible, everyone had their bad sides. Even David murdered the husband of the woman he was committing adultery with. Peter denied 3 times that he even knew Jesus. That was someone who walked along side him every day. The one's Jesus had the most problem with,were the one's who preached the law,commanded it be upheld and strictly enforced, while igoring the "heart of the law". To forgive one another and love one another. Even until the end, Jesus interceded on the behalf of sinners. He forgave them until his dying breath. If anyone can be perfect and do no wrong,then Jesus died for nothing.(If you believe in God,Jesus,etc.,, anyway) The entire reason behind his sacrifice is that men could not live without sin,so he was sacrificial lamb on behalf of everyone.
PogoStick Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 After meeting in person, there was lots of chemistry, fireworks, touching, hand holding and kissing. By the 2nd date we agreed that we didn't want to see other people and by the 3rd date we were sexually initimate. Are religious men more trustworthy? I'm betting his religion does not condone sex before marriage. If a "god-fearing" man can't be trustworthy to his god. Then what chance do you have?
blueskyday Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I am wary of anyone who is extreme or who uses religion to manipulate. I would like to believe that most people who are religious practice their morals in their day to day life. Everyone deserves forgiveness and a second chance. Those are the people in the pews with a bad past, but they are truly trying to change their lives. Then there are the hypocrites who are only into the image, and don't have any real compassion or integrity. These are usually the people quoting scripture all daying regardless of their audience. They are also the manipulative perverts who talk dirty on the second date, after inviting you to their church for indoctrination. I don't judge anyone, but I run from the ultra religious types who try to shove their superior brand of religion down people's throats. It's rude and controlling. Just be a good person with integrity. Whatever road gets you there is fine with me. I have found the most truly spiritual people live their beliefs quietly. This guy raises red flags for me. I would watch what he does, and ignore the religious rhetoric. Watch out that he doesn't judge you or others for not being Christians. He should be more concerned with love, honesty, compassion, non judgment, kindness. The stuff religion is actually supposed to point the way to. 1
PegNosePete Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I don't understand "God fearing". If he is a good person then what reason does he have to fear God? And if his God instills fear in order to gather followers then what kind of god is that? That sounds more like the other guy's methods. Wouldn't "God loving" be a much better way to self-describe? Less than 0.1% of prisoners in the US are atheist, compared with 2.4% of the total population. Based on that, atheists are much more moral than religious people. 3
SawtoothMars Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Yes, IMO, when a person has religion and fear of God in their life - it does drive how they conduct themselves cuz they believe in consequences for their actions - but sorry, humans are humans and I don't trust people until I get to know them....And, sorry, just cuz someone says they fear God doesn't make my Lady J wet. BTW, I also get turned off by ultra religious people cuz they are just so freakin' weird. I have tattoos, I like to drink, I like really hardcore sex. I don't need someone preaching to me. I pray to God as I see fit and read my scriptures. I don't need some guy putting his poop on me and trying to turn me into a bore. I don't disagree with your overall point.... but holy crap is your tone judgmental. Some of the most fun people I know have very strong faith. I suppose if you think the only interesting things in life are getting drunk, and sex with random people....
katiegrl Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 God "fearing" people are no different from those who are not. No I take that back....many God fearing people I know are worse...as no matter how many "sins" they commit ...they fall back on the oldest excuse in the book "Jeses will forgive me." As if Jesus forgiving them justifies being a deplorable human being (in some cases). So for me, I wouldn't put much stock in it... As for the OP, I would be much more concerned about him making three dates in one week, and then after having sex on the third date, he disappeared for over a week!
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