Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 While yes it's true that the majority of women that i've pursued relationships have been white or Asian, I never said that I refuse to date black women. And I would like to point out the double standard here: When someone says that they don't date within their own race they are "prejudice" and show signs of "self hatred" but when people say that they only date within their own race, then it's "just their preference". No I think most people say it doesn't ****ing matter. It's whatever gives you a boner or doesn't make your vag dry up.
Versacehottie Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I use the term "master race" as a sarcastic reference to the idea that darker skin people are less attractive, it's not that I am suggesting that I believe myself to be inferior, it's the fact that that is the general philosophy we have in the US. i.e. when is the last time you heard the media call a white person a "thug" or an "animal"? In the US I've met an unreal amount of Asian women that only date white men, but I've only ever met 2 that exclusively date black men, and both of them were ridiculously unhealthy. Now obviously there are individual cases, but I'm talking about trends, i.e. one of my coworkers is an orthodox Jew that married to a Palestinian, but in general you don't see that a lot. Even your suggestion of going on sites where women are specifically looking for black men...this is in sharp contrast to my friends (just about all of whom are white) can go on almost any dating site without having to look for a specific niche like I do. Thus me making sarcastic references to the "master race". And it's all nice and good to sit in an ivory tower an pontificate about how I should avoid racists families and girls that come from them, but when you've been hearing NO for a long time it changes your outlook, especially in a case like mine where almost all of my friends were sleeping with everything in a skirt, or getting married and having kids. Let's assume for sake of argument that your points about race in dating are valid (i don't actually agree) and you are picking up on something that is in fact statistically the truth. And thus will have a very hard and unfair time dating. Then what????? Do you want a girlfriend or a wife or to be angry about the world being unfair AND let it stop you from getting what you want? All I think some of us are saying is you need to find ways around your particular challenges in dating. All of us have them. Being stuck in a negative place about something you can't control does seep through. I can feel the pessimism in your posts. That's one of the traits I have never liked in a guy. I think a lot of women feel like this. You should channel your energy and passionate nature into finding ways to meet a good girl. It only takes one. If you're right about racism, you'd be spinning your wheels to try to fix that anyway. If you are searching for examples to back up your negative view, they will abound. If you change your beliefs that something about you that is unchangeable like race will limit you, you will succeed. Good luck. ps I think you will do better in real life than internet dating. 1
Author Coup La-La Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 Let's assume for sake of argument that your points about race in dating are valid (i don't actually agree) and you are picking up on something that is in fact statistically the truth. And thus will have a very hard and unfair time dating. Then what????? Do you want a girlfriend or a wife or to be angry about the world being unfair AND let it stop you from getting what you want? That's exactly why this girl playing games is such a big deal, I'm trying to work within the confines I've been given. If I were like my friends who have women lined up for miles it would be one thing, I could easily just say NEXT!!! but when you don't have as many options, every NO carries a lot more weight than it would otherwise. I think maybe I'm due a little bit of credit for at least trying to date someone that I like a lot, as opposed to giving up or settling. And I don't see what basis you have to disagree with me about the stats about race and dating, I gave you an excellent example of an empirically measured experiment. Yes interracial couples are becoming more common, but they're still infinitesimal in the grand scheme of things. Too many women have said to me outright that they weren't willing to date me because of that, whether it be because they're ot attracted to black men, or because they have too much societal pressure. Being stuck in a negative place about something you can't control does seep through. I can feel the pessimism in your posts. That's one of the traits I have never liked in a guy. I think a lot of women feel like this. I won't deny that being excluded from the dating market for such a long period of my life affected me, but I think I'm being as positive as the situation allows. If a woman is dead set that she's not going to contaminate her superior gene pool with my inferior African DNA (that's a sarcastic remark NOT to be taken literally), what else is there to do? That's one of the reasons why I pursued this girl because I knew that this is a girl that would accept me but wouldn't make me feel as though I was settling. Yes, I can't deny the fact that I was dealt a terrible hand in this regard, I would've been far better off if I had grown up in Western Europe where everyone dates everyone, and women don't get disowned for bringing home men that don't pass the SS racial purity test (like my "ex-gf's family) You should channel your energy and passionate nature into finding ways to meet a good girl. It only takes one. Oh what a wonderful world we would live in if that were the case. All my friends that are in "good" marriages are the guys who sowed their wild oats, and dated a lot of women so that they knew they were making an informed decision. My friends that are all in bad marriages are the ones that married the first women to come along. If you change your beliefs that something about you that is unchangeable like race will limit you, you will succeed. Good luck. ps I think you will do better in real life than internet dating. I don't see how it isn't limiting me to be honest about the state of affairs. Never once have I seen a girl that rejected me with a man of color later on EVER. But yes I understand what you mean about doing better in person, almost every woman I have ever been on a date with has told me that if they saw me on an OLD site they wouldn't respond to me. It just sucks that such a potent tool is rendered useless, a few of my friends are constantly adding notches on their belt from girls they met on Tinder or Happn. I feel like the poor kid at school that has to sit back in the sandbox and watch all the rich kids play with all their new toys.
Acacia98 Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Coup La La, your female friend's sending you mixed signals. Maybe she's flaky. Maybe she's trying to make you and all the other guys showering her with attention jealous and, depending on how you react, she'll decide whether you "deserve" her. I can think of so many other possible reasons for her behavior. But, at the end of the day, I can't tell you for sure why she's acting the way she is. My suggestion to you: just ask her. Tell her that, based on previous communications, she seemed interested in you and now she seems to be thinking of you as just a friend. Is that the case? If she says yes, you've got your answer. If she says no, you can start making concrete plans to go visit. And then once you visit, you can figure out whether you want to be with her.
Bimin2015 Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) If you REALLY want her to fall for you , You need to find out tips I used on How to Have a Girlfriend. I think this method I got from a book How to make someone fall for you by Farouk Radwan will help u get the your Woman like it has helped me get my Woman. I was in a similar situation as you and I was in a friendzone because I was too nice of a guy, listened to her moan about everything and treating much like I was one of her friends. This changed after reading the book I mentioned above. Trying to impress people the wrong way. A mistake people make when trying to impress someone is the belief there is a ‘one size fits all’ solution to the problem. If you are the kind of person who is usually impressed by money, this doesn’t mean that someone else, who is not necessarily impressed by money, would die to be with you if they discover that you are super rich. Who would care for your money as long as they do not need it? Who would care for your courage as long as they are courageous? Who would care about your defined muscles as long as they are happy with the shape their body is in? In other words, what impresses you may very well be different from what impresses others or the person whom you are after. It all starts with research! Researching her likes and dislikes will help you determine strategies on How to Have a Girlfriend. One strategy I want to share with u is this about getting her addicted to you, its long chapter but it is the most important to get you Your woman Induced Addiction What if someone became addicted to you? Will there be a chance that they may let you go? No. Allow me to explain why the induced addiction technique is one of the most powerful techniques that can help you make someone fall in love with you. People become addicted to any pleasant experience they get used to. Try to suddenly stop one of the habits you are used to and see what will happen. If you drink a cup of coffee every morning, try going to work without one and observe what happens. Most likely, you will suffer from withdrawal symptoms as soon as you stop any habit, even if it wasn’t addictive. Let me tell you a little secret that most people don’t know. All habits are addictive, even if they seemed otherwise. The simplest, joyful things in life can cause addiction; the way someone takes care of you, the way someone tells you "I love you" or the way someone makes you feel worthy. If, for example, someone praises you all the time, you will get addicted to the way they praise you, and you might miss them if they suddenly disappeared or stopped praising you. But just a second, why do people sometimes compliment us, yet we don’t care at all about their words? Unless the compliment comes from a person who has a high total score, it won’t be given any weight. Remember when I told you that you first must elevate your total score then work on giving attention to your target? If you gave attention before reaching a certain amount of total score, you will be ignored. Not everyone is addicted to the same things, but as mentioned before, you have to collect the information needed about your target so you can find out what's the best mean you can use to get them addicted to you. People who lack self confidence, for example, will be mostly addicted to people who make them feel worthy, while people who feel lonely, will become addicted to those who can provide a strong intimate relationship. There is another type of addiction which a lot of relations are actually built on. You might think that relationships are only built on real love, but in some cases, it's the addiction that supports the relationship. For example, some people think they are in a relationship because they love their partners. However, they are just addicted to one or more aspects of the relationship. In order to make someone addicted to you all you have to do is to provide them with something that they badly need, and eventually, they will become attached to it and in turn, they will become addicted to you. Important Tip: People become more vulnerable to developing addictions when they face downtimes. That’s why some people get into relationships as soon as they face a hard time. In such a case, they fall for anyone who nurtures them and who takes care of them. During pregnancy and after giving birth, women become much more vulnerable to love addiction. Additionally, immediately after breakups, most people become much more vulnerable to addiction. This is why many people get into ‘rebound relationships’. What would a drug addict feel like if they didn’t administer the drug they are used to taking for days? Certainly, they will become obsessed with obtaining the drug to feed their habit. In order for an addiction to intensify, you must become unavailable when you are needed the most, at least on a few occasions so that you raise the intensity of the addiction. As soon as you know that the ‘induced addiction’ technique was successful, start to become unavailable. You will know when the person has become addicted to you when you find them chasing you for attention instead of you. You don’t have to travel to another country to become unavailable; all you need to do is take away the emotional support and communication you were giving them. If you used to reply to that person’s calls right away, don’t reply for a few hours. If you always nurture your target and become a little cold, don’t give reasons for your actions because it would help your target calm down. In order to occupy someone’s mind you need to make them become obsessed with you and that won’t happen before you give them an equation that cannot be solved. X+Y= 5 They will never find X nor will they find Y. Do they love me? I think so, they treat me well! But hey, why didn’t they reply to my calls? Why don’t they treat me well anymore? But hey, last week he told me that I am interesting. What’s going on? I am confused! The more confused a person becomes the more addicted they will become to you. When a person becomes attached to you, the fact that you’re unavailable will raise the intensity of their emotions, making them want you more. Tip: Don’t ever become unavailable unless the person really needs you. If they aren’t already attached to you, then being unavailable would only make matters worse. When the induced addiction technique is used against someone, you will leave them in a state of utter confusion; they will be haunted every now and then with questions like: How am I growing more and more attached to her, despite the fact that there are lots of things I don’t like about her? Do I really love this person? In such a state of confusion, the conscious mind of the person keeps complaining about what's happening, whilst his subconscious mind learns to gradually accept your presence in their life until they falls in love with you. One sign of a successful induced addiction process is a needy partner; if the person started calling more often, and if they start complaining that you are ignoring them, the induced addiction was done successfully. A person who is already needy by nature will become even needier after a successful induced addiction technique is applied. Induced addiction is one of the most powerful techniques that can be used to make someone fall in love with you. Sometimes, this technique can be so successful to the extent that someone could fall in love with you even if they like nothing about you at all! The violation of this person’s values or core beliefs can even be acceptable if the addiction was established correctly; it's as if the induced addiction is a short cut to bypassing most of your partner's unconscious criteria. However, if you want to get good results, don’t depend on induced addiction alone; instead focus on raising your total score before you start using this technique. For example, a friend of mine wasn’t interested in a guy who was chasing her. Whenever he used to call, she used to say, “Oh my God, it’s that annoying person again.” Out of each five calls she used to answer one, and she acted very cold during that call. The guy kept calling her every day at a fixed time until one day, he stopped. At this point, my friend started to wonder why he isn’t calling her! One day, I met her and she was feeling bad because he told her that he will pass by her, yet he didn’t do it. A few weeks later, we were sitting together and this friend told me “I would have never thought I would find myself attracted to such a person; I wasn’t into him by any means, I wonder why that happened”. After I told her about the induced addiction technique she understood what was going on. That is the end of the tips I used on How to Have a Girlfriend. Kind Regards, Sibusiso Mazibuko To learn more tips on finding the love of your life, go to http://www.howtohaveagirlfriend.com/ to make her fall for you. Edited March 18, 2015 by Bimin2015 forgot one line
Versacehottie Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 That's exactly why this girl playing games is such a big deal, I'm trying to work within the confines I've been given. If I were like my friends who have women lined up for miles it would be one thing, I could easily just say NEXT!!! but when you don't have as many options, every NO carries a lot more weight than it would otherwise. I think maybe I'm due a little bit of credit for at least trying to date someone that I like a lot, as opposed to giving up or settling. And I don't see what basis you have to disagree with me about the stats about race and dating, I gave you an excellent example of an empirically measured experiment. Yes interracial couples are becoming more common, but they're still infinitesimal in the grand scheme of things. Too many women have said to me outright that they weren't willing to date me because of that, whether it be because they're ot attracted to black men, or because they have too much societal pressure. My friends that are all in bad marriages are the ones that married the first women to come along. I don't see how it isn't limiting me to be honest about the state of affairs. Never once have I seen a girl that rejected me with a man of color later on EVER. But yes I understand what you mean about doing better in person, almost every woman I have ever been on a date with has told me that if they saw me on an OLD site they wouldn't respond to me. It just sucks that such a potent tool is rendered useless, a few of my friends are constantly adding notches on their belt from girls they met on Tinder or Happn. I feel like the poor kid at school that has to sit back in the sandbox and watch all the rich kids play with all their new toys. ___________________________________________________________ If you are latching onto this girl that treats you like sh*t, you are actually doing worse than your friends that are in "bad marriages". You guys are not even dating and essentially you are latching onto your first semi-option. I did say you should give yourself credit and chalk it up to good qualities about yourself that you have feelings about this girl--moving forward though to stay stuck there is just stupid and doesn't benefit you. You think you are being honest about state of affairs in world of dating but you are fixated, angry and jealous of your friends. Those are not attractive qualities to be consumed with. It's seeping through to your dating life, NO DOUBT. As far as getting me to agree with you about race in dating, you won't get me to. I'm here to talk about love and dating. You want to continue to be bitter about generalized situations you can go right ahead. Or you can man-up and deal with your OWN particular dating life and find happiness with a girl who respects you and makes you see what is right in the world. We are trying to help you. Sincerely, good luck. 2
Author Coup La-La Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 If you are latching onto this girl that treats you like sh*t, you are actually doing worse than your friends that are in "bad marriages". You guys are not even dating and essentially you are latching onto your first semi-option. I did say you should give yourself credit and chalk it up to good qualities about yourself that you have feelings about this girl--moving forward though to stay stuck there is just stupid and doesn't benefit you. Good point, I can't argue with that. You think you are being honest about state of affairs in world of dating but you are fixated, angry and jealous of your friends. Those are not attractive qualities to be consumed with. It's seeping through to your dating life, NO DOUBT. That's a case of chicken or the egg, I did't get rejected because I'm "fixated", I became "fixated" because I got rejected. Who in their right mind WOULDN'T be angry at that? Who wouldn't be angry when they've heard multiple girls say "I can't go out with you because of my friends/peers, but can you set me up with your best friend?" You're almost implying that a more optimistic attitude would be enough to change a woman's mind about her "type" or what's acceptable in her family. I have to be on a date with a girl in the first place for it to seep into my dating life. You want to continue to be bitter about generalized situations you can go right ahead. Or you can man-up and deal with your OWN particular dating life and find happiness with a girl who respects you and makes you see what is right in the world. We are trying to help you. Sincerely, good luck. In all fairness the examples aren't generalizations they are part of a repeating pattern. There have been many studies that show correlation between popularity in your formative years and your salary as an adult, and what greater barometer of popularity is there than dating?? I say that in as mature and sophisticated a way possible, but I'm trying the best I can. I really don't see how I can be more positive about the situation than I already am.
d0nnivain Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) I work on Wall St.. If you work on Wall Street presumably you live in or near NYC. It is such a diverse place. I am wondering why you are putting so much effort in with this OL friend from grade school who does not appear to value you as much as you value her. Keep her as an option . . . as in throw out an invitation for her to come visit you but stop making her a priority. There are thousands of women walking around near where you work. Flirt with one who interests you. Also if you want to use OLD, try a site that is geared toward black people. Crossing racial lines can be tough. Dating is already hard. Why make it harder. If you are only attracted to white women, I bet if you look you will find a web site that caters to that preference. When I googled it, I found a few interracial sites. Good luck. Edited March 18, 2015 by d0nnivain
stillafool Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I don't buy it that all white girls aren't interested in you because you are black. My nephews date white girls, pick them up at their parents homes, bring them to our parties, go to theirs and they never have problems with racisim. I live in VA. I've seen them go from one white girl to another with no problems whatsoever. 1
Versacehottie Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 That's a case of chicken or the egg, I did't get rejected because I'm "fixated", I became "fixated" because I got rejected. Who in their right mind WOULDN'T be angry at that? Who wouldn't be angry when they've heard multiple girls say "I can't go out with you because of my friends/peers, but can you set me up with your best friend?" You're almost implying that a more optimistic attitude would be enough to change a woman's mind about her "type" or what's acceptable in her family. I have to be on a date with a girl in the first place for it to seep into my dating life. Sorry, I don't know how to reply all nice and neat like you do with the quotes. Anyway, fair enough on origin of this internal belief you have. However, how is is serving you to make it a priority in your thoughts?? You have spoken far more about the race stuff and much less (maybe a sentence?) about why you are a catch. Both points may be valid, but it will pay off FOR YOU to be most focused on why you are awesome (and why someone who treats you badly is not worth your effort). And by "dating life" I mean, the one you have or the non-existant one you don't have. Seriously having known many wall street types and their girlfriends, you think it's primarily your race that is holding you back--there's no way that's the only thing. Highly desirable group as far as dating goes (gold diggers, regular good girlfriends, you should have a lot more options than a lot of guys by profession alone, white, black or whatever color). I submit that it's your attitude and self-confidence. Coming across defeatist or overcompensating because you don't think your as worthy as your peers will be a red flag to whoever is potentially interested in you. Also in NYC, I think guys have an advantage compared to women, just saying. I'm not ALMOST implying that a more optimistic attitude will help. I'm directly telling you it will!!!!! Take my advice. Look I can tell you're intelligent from your posts. Positive, check. You have a great career which you seem driven about, check. Possibly a decent to good social life via the mention of all these friends, check. Things are in your favor, my friend, you just need to see it and live it that way. I believe you are trying the best you can. Keep doing that with the assurance that at some point it will pay off. You seem to be approaching your dating situation from a position of "lack of" rather than abundance (as they say). People who are successful IN ANYTHING believe the best is right around the corner.
elaine567 Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 This girl is the prettiest, most well traveled most encouraging I've ever met. She almost has a 6th sense for when I'm stressed. I wrote my last book start to finish in 6 DAYS, because of her: she inspired it with just one sentence! Nobody has ever been able to inspire me like that. And now for me to hear about her wanting to be with some guy who is a broke, transient, alcoholic who's never even been outside of his home state (let alone the USA) is beyond depressing. And actually very illuminating too, why do you as an educated, smart guy with prospects, want to date a girl who is hankering after such an uninspiring person? That's a big red flag IMO. BTW how old is she?
fred123 Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 the point here also is that even if he just wants sex she isn't interested. she rather sleep with other guys than OP unfortunately even though he is a true gentleman and treats her nice
Author Coup La-La Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 You have spoken far more about the race stuff and much less (maybe a sentence?) about why you are a catch. Both points may be valid, but it will pay off FOR YOU to be most focused on why you are awesome (and why someone who treats you badly is not worth your effort). That's a fair point, I can't argue with that. Seriously having known many wall street types and their girlfriends, you think it's primarily your race that is holding you back--there's no way that's the only thing. Highly desirable group as far as dating goes (gold diggers, regular good girlfriends, you should have a lot more options than a lot of guys by profession alone, white, black or whatever color). I submit that it's your attitude and self-confidence. Coming across defeatist or overcompensating because you don't think your as worthy as your peers will be a red flag to whoever is potentially interested in you. As I said, I never saw any of the women who rejected me end up dating any other person of color. It's never been a situation of "I'll date THIS black guy, but not you". Out of the more than 300 non-black women in my high school graduation class only ONE married a black guy. Not to mention that you didn't address the issue of me being more successful in some other countries, why would being on French or Australian soil automatically make me a more confident person? You're right that's not always the only problem, living in NYC very often adds the extra issue of religion. I was rejected by a girl recently that only dates Jewish men, even though she's an atheist, that hasn't celebrated a religious holiday since Bill Clinton was President! Not to mention that people on Tinder don't know what you do for a living when they swipe one way or the other. Also in NYC, I think guys have an advantage compared to women, just saying. I'm not ALMOST implying that a more optimistic attitude will help. I'm directly telling you it will!!!!! Take my advice. Look I can tell you're intelligent from your posts. Positive, check. You have a great career which you seem driven about, check. Possibly a decent to good social life via the mention of all these friends, check. Things are in your favor, my friend, you just need to see it and live it that way. I believe you are trying the best you can. Keep doing that with the assurance that at some point it will pay off. You seem to be approaching your dating situation from a position of "lack of" rather than abundance (as they say). People who are successful IN ANYTHING believe the best is right around the corner. Dating in NYC isn't empirically geared like that. Yes for some men it's a cinch, if I were Jewish I could go on Jdate and get laid in 90 seconds flat, but it's not like that for everyone. I went to my friends engagement party 5 weeks ago and met his soon to be, Step-sister in law. She was gorgeous, had a lot in common i.e. she also works on Wall st. and also writes, and when I showed her my page on Amazon she couldn't shut up about it. My friends fiance called me the next day "I know her family and they are bigots, best case scenario is that she sleeps with you a few times, but she's not gonna bring you home as her BF". This girl was born and raised in NYC, she's not some daughter of a Klansman who immigrated here from a Southern trailer park. I can't deny that you've made some excellent points, I don't brag about myself a lot, and I am a very gregarious person, and I have put up with a number of problems that I wouldn't have under different circumstances. But I think you're also quick to to dismiss this very real problem, I didn't wake up one day and assume that I was being rejected because of my race, it was because of how many women said it outright.
Author Coup La-La Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 And actually very illuminating too, why do you as an educated, smart guy with prospects, want to date a girl who is hankering after such an uninspiring person? That's a big red flag IMO. BTW how old is she? She lives in a place where there isn't a lot of diversity in thought, religion or ethnicity (He family is the only South Asian in the town she lives in), after she blurted out the sentence about sleeping with him, she talked about how hard it is for her to find men out there that don't want to make her wretch. I'm the last person in the world to pass judgement on someone for that. And she just turned 33 last month and her son turns 9 next month.
Versacehottie Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 That's a fair point, I can't argue with that. As I said, I never saw any of the women who rejected me end up dating any other person of color. It's never been a situation of "I'll date THIS black guy, but not you". Out of the more than 300 non-black women in my high school graduation class only ONE married a black guy. Not to mention that you didn't address the issue of me being more successful in some other countries, why would being on French or Australian soil automatically make me a more confident person? You're right that's not always the only problem, living in NYC very often adds the extra issue of religion. I was rejected by a girl recently that only dates Jewish men, even though she's an atheist, that hasn't celebrated a religious holiday since Bill Clinton was President! Not to mention that people on Tinder don't know what you do for a living when they swipe one way or the other. Dating in NYC isn't empirically geared like that. Yes for some men it's a cinch, if I were Jewish I could go on Jdate and get laid in 90 seconds flat, but it's not like that for everyone. I went to my friends engagement party 5 weeks ago and met his soon to be, Step-sister in law. She was gorgeous, had a lot in common i.e. she also works on Wall st. and also writes, and when I showed her my page on Amazon she couldn't shut up about it. My friends fiance called me the next day "I know her family and they are bigots, best case scenario is that she sleeps with you a few times, but she's not gonna bring you home as her BF". This girl was born and raised in NYC, she's not some daughter of a Klansman who immigrated here from a Southern trailer park. I can't deny that you've made some excellent points, I don't brag about myself a lot, and I am a very gregarious person, and I have put up with a number of problems that I wouldn't have under different circumstances. But I think you're also quick to to dismiss this very real problem, I didn't wake up one day and assume that I was being rejected because of my race, it was because of how many women said it outright. I'm not dismissing any potential problem. Just telling you what will be in your best interest to focus on so you have success in dating. I don't wish to debate race or religion here and don't feel it's in your best interest to keep focused on it as a roadblock. I have lived in Manhattan. And for every point (valid or otherwise) I have a counterpoint: there are PLENTY of euros there who probably possess the more open mindset you seek. Listen, I understand your frustrated right now. Maybe be angry and disappointed for a few days and then get on with it. There is someone somewhere, even in NYC, who will be just perfect for you and the stuff you claim is a problem with most women, will not be a problem for her at all.
Versacehottie Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 ps why you would want to sway people and their families who have hate and discrimination running through them to become a part of those families is beyond me. Would not want to be a part of a family like that.
Author Coup La-La Posted March 19, 2015 Author Posted March 19, 2015 ps why you would want to sway people and their families who have hate and discrimination running through them to become a part of those families is beyond me. Would not want to be a part of a family like that. Because everyone has baggage, my family may be very accepting of whomever I date but there are several things about them which I'm not particularly proud of, how would I feel if a girl refused to date me because of that?
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