Weezy1973 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 The matching phenomenon: So much research on this that it is now considered to be a fact. Good looking people have relationships with good looking people. Average looking people pair up with average looking people. Ugly people pair up with ugly people. If you are unsuccessful, it has nothing to do with your looks (unless you're only pursuing women better looking than yourself). 1
DatingDirection Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I always see people asking if ugly people can get girlfriends. So I decided to test it out. I am an ugly man listing my past 50 attempts at trying to get a girlfriend. FYI, I am confirmed ugly, there is zero speculation as it's been repeatedly told to me over the years. The following are results from following the advice I got here to "just go for it". I also made sure I was well dressed had andwas very open to everybody. Every single woman rejected me. Omg, this is terrible. Honestly, i feel so sad to read this. I am an attractive women, 31 years old, and i would never tell a man, he is ugly. If you keep listening to people tell you your ugly, and if you keep telling yourself, that you will believe it. On another note, coming from a women, that does have men come up to me randomly, or make contact with me on public transportation, i can tell you, that it can be creepy. It may have nothing to do with you. In this day, you never know someone's alterior motive. I think, that you shouldn't (and i hate telling ppl what to do) be so direct, and ask a women out right away, there should be some natural flow of communication first. I would join a team, or a club, and meet people there, with similar interests. You will keep going and meeting the same people on the team or in the group, and then build a connection through that. I've seen many people, men with ugly women, and vise versa, so really do not listen to those fools who say your are ugly, because they are the UGLY PEOPLE INSIDE. 2
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 The matching phenomenon: So much research on this that it is now considered to be a fact. Good looking people have relationships with good looking people. Average looking people pair up with average looking people. Ugly people pair up with ugly people. If you are unsuccessful, it has nothing to do with your looks (unless you're only pursuing women better looking than yourself). It's not that simple. Ugly people are naturally attracted to good looking people and often do not like people on their level. I don't know anybody like this in real life, but on loveshack they do not believe in leagues. They think someones 4 could be some good looking person's 8 they really think looks are that subjective.
elaine567 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 The matching phenomenon: So much research on this that it is now considered to be a fact. Good looking people have relationships with good looking people. Average looking people pair up with average looking people. Ugly people pair up with ugly people. If you are unsuccessful, it has nothing to do with your looks (unless you're only pursuing women better looking than yourself). I think that is a bit of a generalisation, because other factors like intelligence, personality, money, humour, popularity also come into play. Short term relationships and hook ups yes, I agree looks can be everything, but for longer term relationships, the other factors may be more important.
Ethan78 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 What about this guy who won a competition in England for "Punching above his weight". Image is here http://newcastleuncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Darren-and-Kate.jpg
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 What about this guy who won a competition in England for "Punching above his weight". Image is here http://newcastleuncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Darren-and-Kate.jpg That's one of those 1 in 100 exceptions that people on here like to amplify like it's normal. Plus there is usually a part of the story that we don't know.
Buddhist Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Plus there is usually a part of the story that we don't know. Yeah. Like they like each other or something. Tricksters. 3
WomenWubber Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 TL,DR Yes, it is possible to be TOO ugly to get women, that isn't a myth. I'm living proof. Have you ever tried approaching women that, in your opinion, are too ugly for anyone to date them? If so, what are your results? If not, why not?
preraph Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 It sounds like the only women you approached were "cold" approaches, in other words, not women you had any reason to talk to to begin with. Just sayin'. Your odds would go up slightly if you had met them a few times in a common activity or school or job. I wouldn't go out with ANY man who just appeared out of nowhere and asked me out of the blue. I don't care what he looks like. I wouldn't say yes to a stranger asking me out. 4
Yookie Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 You're doing it wrong. Check out this video. Jump to the 6 minute mark to see how women pick men. If you are in the husband zone, women will come for you. You don't have to do a thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU 1
mightycpa Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I haven't read the entire thread. Have you tried any blind girls yet, to see if ugliness is really the issue? 3
Toodaloo Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 It sounds like the only women you approached were "cold" approaches, in other words, not women you had any reason to talk to to begin with. Just sayin'. Your odds would go up slightly if you had met them a few times in a common activity or school or job. I wouldn't go out with ANY man who just appeared out of nowhere and asked me out of the blue. I don't care what he looks like. I wouldn't say yes to a stranger asking me out. I am thinking this...
Ethan78 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I am thinking this... I have met women who said they would be creeped out if a stranger approached. Some have even said they would not meet a guy in a bar because they guy would probably have to be drunk to approach. However, I think the reality is if the guy was charming enough and naturally confident they would make the exception or would not even see it as an approach. A naturally confident and sociable guy who manages to strike up an indirect conversation would not be seen as a creepy guy. The women who say they would not talk to a stranger who came up to them are probably saying they would not do so the majority of the time with the majority of men.
guest569 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Looks are NEVER everything. Even if i was to do a one night stand, I want the guy to be a decent person. I would definitely feel suspicious and awkward if a guy was chatting me up randomly. Perhaps at a bar, club, sporting match, musical event.. But not when i am daydreaming on a train or doing groceries 1
Toodaloo Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I have met women who said they would be creeped out if a stranger approached. Some have even said they would not meet a guy in a bar because they guy would probably have to be drunk to approach. However, I think the reality is if the guy was charming enough and naturally confident they would make the exception or would not even see it as an approach. A naturally confident and sociable guy who manages to strike up an indirect conversation would not be seen as a creepy guy. The women who say they would not talk to a stranger who came up to them are probably saying they would not do so the majority of the time with the majority of men. I talk to all and sundry. I am not bothered at all. However the OP wants to know how to get a date when he is ugly and cold approaches are not working. Simple answer is that women are going to have to get to know him for the beauty within to shine. So he needs to talk to women and get to know them rather than jump straight in and ask them out.
ascendotum Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 What about this guy who won a competition in England for "Punching above his weight". Image is here http://newcastleuncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Darren-and-Kate.jpg lol. yeh as you say, he won a competition and the prize was to win a date with the pretty blond girl. He had a great time for 2 hrs, got lots of stares from other people, hugged her at the end and then went back to his real life. Look I don't think him finding the women he approached somewhat attractive is necessarily a flaw in the concept, but we really do need 3rd party perspective. 'Conventionally' unattractive men and women do need to find each other attractive to an extent that makes them want to keep them having sex each night/week -beauty in the eye of beholder. Cold approaches of women during the day I reckon would be hard for an unattractive guy. Much easier at a social get together or say work where the women has a chance to get to know him better.
Ethan78 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I talk to all and sundry. I am not bothered at all. However the OP wants to know how to get a date when he is ugly and cold approaches are not working. Simple answer is that women are going to have to get to know him for the beauty within to shine. So he needs to talk to women and get to know them rather than jump straight in and ask them out. Good for you, although you had agreed with the poster above who said she would not go out with any stranger who asked for a date. Like I say, I don't think it is true because there will always be exceptions. lol. yeh as you say, he won a competition and the prize was to win a date with the pretty blond girl. He had a great time for 2 hrs, got lots of stares from other people, hugged her at the end and then went back to his real life. I didn't say that. Read the story again. They are a couple with a young son. Cold approaches of women during the day I reckon would be hard for an unattractive guy. Much easier at a social get together or say work where the women has a chance to get to know him better. This is all true. The bigger issue is what else the person has going on in their life in terms of jobs and hobbies. However, trying to get a social circle and meet people at events / work can be hard and is certainly more limited. I guess that's why we have bars - so women can pretend they just go their to have fun with their friends.
Eternal Sunshine Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 If anyone approached me like you describe, I would think that he is going to mug me/rape me. It's creepy and only guys that do that are homeless or on drugs. Having said that, don't listen to people telling you that there are no leagues and similar. It's a feel-good BS. Asses your looks and go for women that you think are close to the same level. There are plenty of dateless ones out there that don't get asked out. Most of us can't get someone we find super attractive, that's just life. 1
wb1988 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 If anyone approached me like you describe, I would think that he is going to mug me/rape me. It's creepy and only guys that do that are homeless or on drugs. Really? I do it occasionally and never had issues. I once was looking at this girl's tits (they were just perfect!) she caught me looking so I immediately looked at her face and smiled with embarrassment, she then gave a big smile back. When I walk down the road and pass by a bunch of girls I smile, they all smile back. Maybe some or none of them were 'interested' but once again I don't think what you said was true. The OP must look really bad to have those reactions. What about this guy who won a competition in England for "Punching above his weight". Image is here http://newcastleuncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Darren-and-Kate.jpg OP do you look better or even worse than the guy on that link? That girl is probably the type who only feels secure when she's much better looking than her guy.
elaine567 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I didn't say that. Read the story again. They are a couple with a young son. Yes, she is now pregnant with their second baby. 'Punching Above Your Weight' winner and stunning blonde hairdresser wife are having second baby - Mirror Online
TigerLilly78 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Your problem isn't your ugly its you have no self easteam and possibialy have body issues seek therapy until your healthy and happy with yourself no one is going to find you attractive! Even people main stream wouldn't call attractive are in relationships so its not impossible but you seam to want to just wallow in self pity and thats not going to get you anywhere op..
elaine567 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Really? I do it occasionally and never had issues. I once was looking at this girl's tits (they were just perfect!) she caught me looking so I immediately looked at her face and smiled with embarrassment, she then gave a big smile back. When I walk down the road and pass by a bunch of girls I smile, they all smile back. Maybe some or none of them were 'interested' but once again I don't think what you said was true. The OP must look really bad to have those reactions. . Ok they may smile back as you keep on going down the road, but if you actually approached them with the obvious agenda of asking for a date you may find you get a different response. 1
Fhsjkfjrhsdh3646 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Cold approach is the hardest way to get women. Even seasoned pickup artists avoid that *****. If you're ugly and have ****ty game, you're going to fail hard. Go to a bar/party/activity/work where you have a chance to be around women for a longer period of time - much easier to build rapport (it takes time) and then work with that. If you're "ugly" 9 times out of 10 that can be fixed or compensated for by other means. Just have to apply yourself.
runitonce Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Errrr.... why would it be relevant if he's ugly & the women he approached were reasonably attractive?? I thought women were morally superior beings that are attracted to a good personality & a guy with the confidence to approach?.....my mistake They're attracted to looks as much as any man. Which is FINE, but please lets not pretend otherwise Edit. Also looooolllllll @ Wb1988 using that guy in the paper as an example. It's so unusual it made the ****ing paper! U dont see the irony of that? Edited February 23, 2015 by runitonce
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