Rejected Rosebud Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 There are plenty of men out there who are looking for a serious relationship. But guess what, most women don't actually want that, or if they actually do want a real relationship, it's most likely not with the kinds of guys that actually want to be tied down. Most young women seem to want to be the one who can claim the playboy and get him to commit to her. They don't realize they'd be better off going for the less exciting guy who actually wants a relationship. Do you honestly think that all the couples you see walking around holding hands and stuff consist of a woman and some kind of guy who really doesn't want a relationship?? :eek: I bet that is not correct!
oberkeat Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I mean let's face it, the woman needs to be swept off her feet. The male is always in the position of having to prove he is worthy of her affection. Why is it never the other way around? Why are men so expendable while all women are princesses? (WARNING: Fifty Shades of Grey Spoiler) I think there's some truth to this. I went to see Fifty Shades of Grey this weekend (went in not knowing anything about the book). It was entertaining, but on a deeper level, I think the film was about how women have unrealistic expectations of what the perfect man is (rich, young, fit, movie star looks, ultra confident, owns his own helicopter, etc.) and are holding out for him to materialize and sweep them off their feet. I don't think it's a coincidence that the audience in the theater was mostly women. The main character had never had sex before because she was holding out for mr. Perfect. And when she finally met him, she slowly realized that he wasn't perfect, because no man is. But many women have set the bar that high, so that few if any men can reach it. So, I do agree with OP to an extent.
xxoo Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 You know how you meet a woman and you are attracted and develop a crush on her? Well, that happens to women, too. And those are the men she wants to date. Not perfect men, or rich men, but simply men who stir those feelings and make her think how much she wants him to kiss her and maybe have his babies.
Buddhist Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 (WARNING: Fifty Shades of Grey Spoiler) I think the film was about how women have unrealistic expectations of what the perfect man is (rich, young, fit, movie star looks, ultra confident, owns his own helicopter, etc.) and are holding out for him to materialize and sweep them off their feet. I don't think it's a coincidence that the audience in the theater was mostly women. I think you missed the point that Fifty Shades is a porn film for women, and so were the books. Porn for women isn't all about explicit bits, it's about a mental turn-on. Are we also to conclude then that all men want their gf's to have plastic breasts, pumped up lips and get around in G strings and bare breasted merely because they enjoy watching those women in porn?
somedude81 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Just look on this forum for post after post of people complaining their partner has suddenly become a dick and they doesn't understand why. The cycle gets old real quick and the sex is rarely worth it. That's a really negative way to look at men and relationships. It is about one failed relationship. Did you really think the very first one was going to last forever? Of course not, but things only lasting six months was ridiculous. I waited so long to get a GF and when I finally got one, all I got was a brief taste of what it was like to be in a relationship. Hell, we weren't even together long enough to have an actual argument. Everyone screws this up, practice is the only thing that fixes not. Not saying....oh well she left me so that's it I've failed and might as well throw myself in a ditch. First of all, I didn't screw up. Her dumping me had nothing to do with me. The only "mistake" I made was dating her right after she broke up with her boyfriend. Even then, there was no chance I wasn't going to pursue her after she gave me very obvious signals. I've been waiting my whole life for that opportunity. Of course I'm not saying that there isn't many more things I can learn about being in a relationship, but in order to practice I need to actually be in one. And nobody is even giving me a chance. Story of my life. And yet you keep blaming things outside of yourself for that. Maybe that's the reason why you've been in a relationship for only 6 months of your life. If everyone else can get a relationship except you, then chances are excellent the problem is you. Every single relationship of mine failed, but I didn't stop trying (until now) and I didn't start blaming other people for things that are my responsibility to fix. The problem is that I'm a freaking introverted short guy. I don't know where you live, but here in California, girls are not interested in short quiet guys. I've also had to live with depression ever since I was a kid thanks to a crappy childhood. So for my whole entire life I've had these handicaps that have completely crippled my dating life. I'll be honest, before you revealed your age I put you at about 23, because that's the level of maturity you are displaying. That sounds about right considering my relationship experience. Now if that's what you're putting out across an internet forum to total strangers then don't you think others who meet you face to face are also picking up this vibe from you? Don't even bother telling me well you never talk about this stuff with women, you don't have to. People can pick this up without you saying a word, it's written in your attitudes, your body language and just your general vibe. Not at all. If you met me in person you wouldn't have a clue. You are only getting this "vibe" from me because you have the luxury of reading what I write. When I'm actually around women I'm happy and I have a good time. Then I ask them out and get rejected. If you're waiting for that magic age at which all women become hopelessly desperate and start chasing you, in the manner of Bitter Dudes, then I think you'll be disappointed. That's not what I'm waiting for at all. Up until very recently I was only pursuing women 21-24. Naturally I wasn't having any success, except for my ex who was 21 when we broke up. I've been told over and over again that younger women just want to party and aren't looking for anything serious. So no, I'm not going to wait till women become desperate, but I am going to go for an older bracket of women who are looking for an actual relationship. You said so yourself that women don't want to have LTR's until around 27. Maybe you shouldn't be pegging your self esteem to relationship status then? Much easier said than done. That's one of the prime reasons why I'm currently in therapy. All young people do this until they figure out it's not very clever. I'm wondering why as a 33yr old you still haven't figured this out. What is there to figure out? I'm pretty sure that anybody, no matter what their age or gender feels pretty bad about themselves if they have been involuntarily single for a long time. Bringing your resentment towards women with you to every date isn't helping btw. You can't resent something and then expect it to like you back. When I am around girls I like, the last thing I feel is resentment. I have absolutely no feelings of negativity when I'm with a girl. BTW I haven't been on one date since the year I've been single. I've expressed interest in a lot of girls, and they all turned me down.
smackie9 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I mean let's face it, the woman needs to be swept off her feet. The male is always in the position of having to prove he is worthy of her affection. Why is it never the other way around? Why are men so expendable while all women are princesses? You need an aggressive woman.....they are out there and I'm one of them..... 1
oberkeat Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Are we also to conclude then that all men want their gf's to have plastic breasts, pumped up lips and get around in G strings and bare breasted merely because they enjoy watching those women in porn? Not all men, but many of them, yes.
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