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I'm really trying to understand what you are trying to do without making assumptions about your intentions, but I do not understand.

 

It sounds like you are finding women that you are attracted to online, offering them a dinner in exchange for dating tips, they agree, you go on said dinner, and you get dating tips from them?

 

Is that right?

 

 

 

I can understand that goal, it's just the way you're going about it that I'm trying to understand. Have you considered hiring an actual dating coach rather than trying to get tips from random women you meet online?

 

 

 

 

That would be correct rester

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That would be correct rester

 

Okay, thanks for the clarification. It's an odd way of going about things, but if you get good dating tips from it and you are being upfront and honest with these women, I guess there's not much harm, although you are paying these women to spend time with you and discuss what you want to discuss. I think you can see what that resembles. All I'm saying is that I don't know if these are the types of women you want to get dating tips from. Good friends of yours, maybe, but random women online? I don't know about that. You need to trust these women's opinions or you're going to get all screwed up.

 

I'd ask yourself if this is really helping you or hurting you. Is it good for your self-confidence, or bad? Do you do this to avoid rejection, perhaps?

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Okay, thanks for the clarification. It's an odd way of going about things, but if you get good dating tips from it and you are being upfront and honest with these women, I guess there's not much harm, although you are paying these women to spend time with you and discuss what you want to discuss. I think you can see what that resembles. All I'm saying is that I don't know if these are the types of women you want to get dating tips from. Good friends of yours, maybe, but random women online? I don't know about that. You need to trust these women's opinions or you're going to get all screwed up.

 

I'd ask yourself if this is really helping you or hurting you. Is it good for your self-confidence, or bad? Do you do this to avoid rejection, perhaps?

 

Well I got one reply so far and I can just look at her and tell she is not serious lol

 

So I have not got a serious reply yet.

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Well I got one reply so far and I can just look at her and tell she is not serious lol

 

So I have not got a serious reply yet.

 

So you haven't even gone on one of these dating tip dinners yet? What do you mean by she's not serious?

 

Man, I am so confused as well.

 

 

What's your dating history, if you don't mind me asking? Why do you feel like you're going to get good dating advice from women you don't know? Do these women know that that's what they're signing on for? I'm so confused.

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So you haven't even gone on one of these dating tip dinners yet? What do you mean by she's not serious?

 

Man, I am so confused as well.

 

 

What's your dating history, if you don't mind me asking? Why do you feel like you're going to get good dating advice from women you don't know? Do these women know that that's what they're signing on for? I'm so confused.

 

Me too. He never answered my question about his dating history either.

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So you haven't even gone on one of these dating tip dinners yet? What do you mean by she's not serious?

 

Man, I am so confused as well.

 

 

What's your dating history, if you don't mind me asking? Why do you feel like you're going to get good dating advice from women you don't know? Do these women know that that's what they're signing on for? I'm so confused.

 

Because she is not serious looking in her pic. She looks odd

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So you haven't even gone on one of these dating tip dinners yet? What do you mean by she's not serious?

 

Man, I am so confused as well.

 

 

What's your dating history, if you don't mind me asking? Why do you feel like you're going to get good dating advice from women you don't know? Do these women know that that's what they're signing on for? I'm so confused.

 

yes I explained all that in the ad, free dinner for helping me with my shyness and dating advice. And who know a actual friendship may come out of it

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I do have to say, that there is an epidemic of girls in OLD who go out with guys for the free dinner....or, at least there was a number of years ago. Girls would schedule dates with guys and go out for the free dinner.

 

So, I implemented a policy of not going out to dinner on the first date. If a girl INSISTS on a dinner date, I immediately cease contact with her.

 

This actually happened recently on Tinder. Girl wanted to meet me, she even scheduled the date for me - 830PM. When I saw the restaurant where she wanted to meet, it was a nicer place that was pretty expensive. I first agreed, then the next day, told her that I will have to meet her later that night and we can meet for one drink, and advised her to go ahead and grab a bite and we will meet at the bar for a drink at 9 instead. She replied back, saying "that's too late, and so lets meet the next day for dinner at that same place. 830pm". I unmatched her right away, as that was a signal to me that she was demanding dinner...a free dinner. No thanks!!

 

Im not here as a free meal ATM. I want to meet girls who are looking for a connection that leads to dating and, in a reasonable time frame, hot sex.

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I want to meet an outgoing woman who is willing to go to dinner and talk to me about first dates.

 

What do you mean you want to meet a woman who is willing to go to dinner? You already did! At least you "said" you did...and you have a date with her next Saturday, remember?

 

LOL...I knew it was bull shyt and you'd hang yourself eventually.

 

So what else is bull shyt? The two hour convo last night? Did she even text you?

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What do you mean you want to meet a woman who is willing to go to dinner? You already did! At least you "said" you did...and you have a date with her next Saturday, remember?

 

LOL...I knew it was bull shyt and you'd hang yourself eventually.

 

So what else is bull shyt? The two hour convo last night? Did she even text you?

 

No, it's not a date. I am treating a woman to dinner to talk to me about dating and possibly build a friendship

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No, it's not a date. I am treating a woman to dinner to talk to me about dating and possibly build a friendship

 

Sure okay....lol

 

::eye roll::

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Sure okay....lol :(eye roll):

 

But it has to be someone with a pic who is cute, and down to earth looking

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But it has to be someone with a pic who is cute, and down to earth looking

 

What are you talking about? I am referring to the girl you have "already" met dude...in person! The one who didn't take off her coat... whom you "said" texted you after the date...and you called her back, talked for two hours, asked her out, and you have a date scheduled for next Saturday!

 

Remember????

 

Apparently not since you made it all up...sheesh!!

 

You really are quite confused, aren't you. You can't even remember your own lies!

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But it has to be someone with a pic who is cute, and down to earth looking

 

Why? If she is just going to give you advice, does it really matter what she looks like?

I don't think you will get better advice just because she is cute, do you?

Does cuteness correlate with quality of advice?

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What are you talking about? I am referring to the girl you have "already" met dude...in person! The one who didn't take off her coat... whom you "said" texted you after the date...and you called her back, talked for two hours, asked her out, and you have a date scheduled for next Saturday!

 

Remember????

 

Apparently not since you made it all up...sheesh!!

 

You really are quite confused, aren't you. You can't even remember your own lies!

 

we did talk for 2 hours but the next meeting has not been confirmed

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Why? If she is just going to give you advice, does it really matter what she looks like?

I don't think you will get better advice just because she is cute, do you?

Does cuteness correlate with quality of advice?

 

I like advice from the type of woman I am trying to get

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I like advice from the type of woman I am trying to get

 

 

I don't know what your situation is except you don't have much money and you're suspicious and insecure. Generally speaking, a person usually has to have something to offer the other person as far as looks or being financially sound. Example: Donald Trump is unattractive and old looking but has a beautiful young wife BECAUSE he has money and power, thus making him more attractive. If he was making even 100k a year, I doubt that Milania wouldn have given him a second glance. Casper Smart is 18 years younger than Jennifer Lopez but he got her with his good looks and he probably has a rockin' body to boot!

 

Confidence, trust and generosity is very attractive. Just saying.

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I wonder what kind of woman, good looking, on a dating websites, who's there looking for a relationship, will accept a dinner invitation from a man that offers to pay dinner for dating tips.

 

I can only think of 2 types of women.

 

1. The opportunists that are looking for a free meal

2. The less good looking women who don't get much attention and would jump on anything.

 

Both can't give you good dating tips.

 

Also, how much are you willing to spend on those dinner tips? $75-$100 ? Brace yourself, if a woman accept your offer I can assure you she will go through the wine list and pick the most expensive steak on on the menu so have at least a budget of $150 available.

 

That hot chocolate and doughnut don't sound too bad now eh?

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I don't think girls would agree to this scenario with some weirdo "promoting" it up front. So my guess is that they don't know. Either that or he's just worded things so crazy in these posts and he means long-standing friends of his that he is mining for information.

 

Plus, OP you are getting great dating tips right here, if you'd take the advice. You don't even need to buy us dinner.

 

Ohhhhhhh, i get it now that he's clarified. NO ONE has actually agreed to this!!!! And only one who has even responded is "odd". Really?????!!!! THAT'S A HUGE SURPRISE.

 

Like i said, you are getting great advice here. You just refuse to take it as if some faux-dinner-date with a girl you find attractive will provide more focus and clairity. The whole thing is a unicorn.

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I wonder what kind of woman, good looking, on a dating websites, who's there looking for a relationship, will accept a dinner invitation from a man that offers to pay dinner for dating tips.

 

I can only think of 2 types of women.

 

1. The opportunists that are looking for a free meal

2. The less good looking women who don't get much attention and would jump on anything.

 

Both can't give you good dating tips.

 

Also, how much are you willing to spend on those dinner tips? $75-$100 ? Brace yourself, if a woman accept your offer I can assure you she will go through the wine list and pick the most expensive steak on on the menu so have at least a budget of $150 available.

 

That hot chocolate and doughnut don't sound too bad now eh?

 

I'm not going over $50

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Ohhhhhhh, i get it now that he's clarified. NO ONE has actually agreed to this!!!! And only one who has even responded is "odd". Really?????!!!! THAT'S A HUGE SURPRISE.

 

Like i said, you are getting great advice here. You just refuse to take it as if some faux-dinner-date with a girl you find attractive will provide more focus and clairity. The whole thing is a unicorn.

 

Lets say someone attractive agrees to it and decides to go to dinner with me. I will be more relaxed because it's not a daterrible and who knows what that can turn After that. She may want to give it a try or refer me to someone she knows.

 

This is my way of tapping into the hidden dating market

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I want to meet an outgoing woman who is willing to go to dinner and talk to me about first dates.

 

At what point do you break out the chloroform-laced handkerchief?

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Lets say someone attractive agrees to it and decides to go to dinner with me. I will be more relaxed because it's not a daterrible and who knows what that can turn After that. She may want to give it a try or refer me to someone she knows.

 

This is my way of tapping into the hidden dating market

 

Do you lack so much in personality that you have to lure women into meeting you?

 

And between you and I, what type of women you think will accept your kind of invitation?

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Because there are differing opinions on who should contact who first after the first date, I don't think you can make any rule about it. My rule is if someone does something nice for me, I thank them the next day. But as you see, others are waiting to see if the guy will call them or not. And in fairness, I would thank anyone who showed me a good time, regardless of whether I'd accept a second date with them or not, so.....

 

I completely agree. I would normally thank them at the end of the evening though and tell them how much I appreciate them. I doubt I would call or text them the next day though.

 

OP, I think taking someone to dinner on a first date is not a good idea especially if you are on a budget. Wait until the relationship is progressing to treat them to a nice dinner.

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Lets say someone attractive agrees to it and decides to go to dinner with me. I will be more relaxed because it's not a daterrible and who knows what that can turn After that. She may want to give it a try or refer me to someone she knows.

 

This is my way of tapping into the hidden dating market

 

So you're hoping in that asking them out on this non-date, that maybe they'll want to date you without you having to actually ask them out on a date?

 

Do you think many of these attractive women you find on dating sites are going to spend their time going out with someone only to help him find a date? They're looking for their own men to date. Also, why would they do that just for a free meal and the potential of "something more?" That's why dating coaches exist—you pay them $$, and they give you professional advice, not a pseudo-date.

 

I guess in theory this is not an awful idea, but I think there are some flaws in your logic. This is what female friends are for, or you ask for this kind of arrangement on Craigslist.

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