Toodaloo Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I have just been going through the guys on the On Line Dating site I am on... There are hardly any under 6ft tall... Most are around 6ft 2" - 6ft 4" I guess they are either lying or short guys really do have a better chance of dating as there are not many on there... Some of them have pictures of them standing next to others and yes they are tall...
Buddhist Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Doubt it. Plenty of short girls out there to match. My tallest bf was 5'8" and the shortest around 5'. Depends on the site and demographic though, obviously a site with lots of caucasians, the average height amoung guys anyway is going to be closer to 6' than 5'. 1
Author Toodaloo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 Thats the thing though. I hear chaps who are shorter on these boards going on and on about how they can't get dates etc. My brother is short at 5ft 5 ins (although he would say he is 5ft 6ins...). he was snapped up before he could get single and had to tell the women to back off so he could have some alone time between relationships. His ex was constantly trying to come back (she is 5ft 8ins, blonde and a nick name of "tits and teeth" for a reason, awful woman treated him very badly...) and he had several others chasing after him. As it was he ended up with someone he went to college with and they are both very happy now (took their time about it). He is also ugly after a car accident in his teens ruined his looks (Tom Cruise looky likey before but nicer eyes) and left him with scars all over his chest, shoulders but mostly face and no eye lashes... oh and he is bald... very bald... So everything that chaps on here say is "bad"... But he is one of the good guys... I am looking in the southern region of the UK and its a "middle class" type site. Only seen 3 who are under 6ft. Hadn't been looking at heights before so its only the last couple of days but it has struck me as a bit strange that if the short guys can't get dates and relationships why are they not plentiful on the dating websites? Is it that some are adding a few inches to height to make them more attractive or is it that being taller actually isn't all that attractive when it comes to settling down with someone...?
PegNosePete Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 The "short guys can't get dates" is just another excuse for failure. Bald guys can't get dates. Divorced guys can't get dates. Hey I did just fine on both of those counts. People like to blame factors out of their control rather than just face the fact that they are rubbish at using OLD, their profile sucks and their photos look like a 12 year old took them. Lying in online dating is an attempt to overcome these perceived reasons for their failure. It rarely works because they have failed to address the key point: their profile and photos suck monkey balls. Men most often lie about their height. Women most often lie about their weight. 7
Mangina Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Get on match and do a search for girls age 20 - 30. Almost all of them list their height requirement, it's usually 5'10 or 6'. I would assume the guys are lying in order to talk to the girls. The height thing is no myth 2
Author Toodaloo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 People like to blame factors out of their control rather than just face the fact that they are rubbish at using OLD, their profile sucks and their photos look like a 12 year old took them. Women most often lie about their weight. Thats kind of my point... has been all along... looks, height etc do not matter. Well at least I admit I am rubbish at On Line Dating... Whole thing is being revamped by others. Photos have been changed, some of the wording has already been changed etc and I have to go and get a full body shot at some point so they can see "curvy" really does mean a fat bum and big boobs and that there is a waistline in there! I will take your advice and get the puppies out *but only a little bit* for that one! I don't have a "height requirement" on my site...
Shining One Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I'm not sure how that site you're using is set up, but some might be trying to bypass a filter by being dishonest about their height. Using Match, someone can automatically filter someone's emails to "Junk" based on certain attributes, which includes height. Thus, if women in a general area tend to automatically filter out men below a certain height, then this could be a way of bypassing it. Whether people want to admit it or not, height does affect your dating pool. Even at 5'11", I still get quite a few profiles I can't message due to a 6' requirement. This isn't a large sample size, but of the top 10 mutual matches I have, the lowest height requirement is 5'7" with most 5'9" and above. I'll grab a large sample size later.
Gaeta Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 The average woman in my culture is 5'4'' and the average man is 5'8''. So there is plenty of shorter men around. A man of 6' in my culture is considered very tall. Next door to me the anglophone ladies are 5'8'' and up and it's common to come across men 6'2'' and up so I understand that the anglophone ladies prefer men taller than themselves. As a 5'3'' lady every man I come across is taller than me so I don't really pay attention. I don't like too tall men, I don't like having my neck bent backward when they hug me, not to mention it's awkward in bed. I wonder where it comes from that women want tall men. I much prefer shorter and in shape. My ex-husband was 5'7'' and I felt very safe with him. 2
Andy_K Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Average male height for the UK is about 5'10. 6' or over puts you approximately top 30%. Okcupid once estimated that the average guy adds 2" to his height online. If you've only seen three under six foot, I suspect many are fibbing. 1
Author Toodaloo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 I'm not sure how that site you're using is set up, but some might be trying to bypass a filter by being dishonest about their height. Using Match, someone can automatically filter someone's emails to "Junk" based on certain attributes, which includes height. Thus, if women in a general area tend to automatically filter out men below a certain height, then this could be a way of bypassing it. Whether people want to admit it or not, height does affect your dating pool. Even at 5'11", I still get quite a few profiles I can't message due to a 6' requirement. This isn't a large sample size, but of the top 10 mutual matches I have, the lowest height requirement is 5'7" with most 5'9" and above. I'll grab a large sample size later. No filters. You can see everyone regardless. The only ones are age and area... oh and you can say pictures only too...
Author Toodaloo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 Sorry folks I lied. There are filters.. Mine are all set to "don't mind" except areas ones, but people out of my area can still contact me so I guess it doesn't restrict if you are not "perfect"...
deathandtaxes Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I have just been going through the guys on the On Line Dating site I am on... There are hardly any under 6ft tall... Most are around 6ft 2" - 6ft 4" I guess they are either lying or short guys really do have a better chance of dating as there are not many on there... Some of them have pictures of them standing next to others and yes they are tall... I'm gonna call most of those guys liars. The mean height for US men is around 5'9". Roughly 20% of US men will be 6' or taller. 2
Shining One Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 The filters come into play when women are searching for men's profiles or when the woman is receiving a message. If a woman is searching for men who are 6', then I would not show up in her search. If I lie and say I'm 6', then I will show up in her search. If she automatically filters/deletes messages from men under 6', my profile does not get viewed if I message her. An unseen profile has a 0% chance. A seen profile has a greater than 0% chance. 1
Author Toodaloo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 An unseen profile has a 0% chance. A seen profile has a greater than 0% chance. Her loss then n'est pas? Personally if a person can be that shallow I wouldn't particularly want to be seen by them... Perhaps that is also a contributing factor. All the tall blokes keep being approached by women who are only after them for their height and not interested in personality and compatibility?!
preraph Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 While I understand that extremely short men will have genuine trouble dating, those, say, under 5'5", for the ones who are above that height complaining about shortness keeping them down,well, their biggest impediment isn't their height but probably their lack of confidence or their lack of social skills, and that's what they should work on. I knew plenty of guys under 5'7" who had hot girls after them all the time. Of course, some of those guys had a really nice face or something like that to help them out, but for most it was a matter of their personal confidence and just having a great personality. 2
somedude81 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I'm 5'5 and I haven't had a date in over a year. Every single girl I expressed an interest in turned me down.
Gaeta Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I'm 5'5 and I haven't had a date in over a year. Every single girl I expressed an interest in turned me down. And those girls you had interest in were tall?
somedude81 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 And those girls you had interest in were tall? The vast majority of women I pursue are around 5'2. I don't even bother going after women that are taller than me. 1
preraph Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 ^ Well, you're still working on it, and maybe some day the light bulb will go off. Your drought can't last forever. And you know you are dating out of your age range who is attracted to you, so you know that and haven't yet changed that. I think anyone who's followed your posts has noticed you have some sort of circular thinking thing going on too where you sometimes just can't see the obvious. But I still think since you're expending this much energy on it, someday things will come together. Meanwhile, pay more attention to the girls who volunatarily come around or talk to you than the ones you've spotted across the room who aren't.
Woggle Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I see couples all the time where the man is shorter. This is not as much of an issue offline as people make it out to be. 2
somedude81 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 ^ Well, you're still working on it, and maybe some day the light bulb will go off. Your drought can't last forever. Hah! We can only hope. And you know you are dating out of your age range who is attracted to you, so you know that and haven't yet changed that. My age isn't an issue. I think anyone who's followed your posts has noticed you have some sort of circular thinking thing going on too where you sometimes just can't see the obvious. But I still think since you're expending this much energy on it, someday things will come together. Meanwhile, pay more attention to the girls who volunatarily come around or talk to you than the ones you've spotted across the room who aren't. Girls voluntarily come around to me? I've never had a woman approach me. I can clearly see the obvious. I'm a short guy with average looks. Women aren't interested in me. The only girlfriend I've ever had was looking for somebody to "rescue" her from her abusive boyfriend. She suddenly dumped me after six months which was right about the time that I had finished fixing her.
Author Toodaloo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 The only girlfriend I've ever had was looking for somebody to "rescue" her from her abusive boyfriend. She suddenly dumped me after six months which was right about the time that I had finished fixing her. Well now you know what to look for you can quit being a Florence Nightingale with the next one! I have been single for nearly a year with a minor dalliance in the summer... So far every man I have asked out has turned me down too!!! So somedude you are not alone! Far from it. I have also had a bit of a problem in that many of the men who seem suitable at first and who are keen are also married or in long term relationships... Next! I think I am lucky in that I am not too worried. Yes, I would love to have someone to love and spoil again, yes I really miss sex, snogging and blow jobs in particular but I have loads of other things with which to occupy my time. Its not the end of the world if it doesn't happen. I can go off and do other things instead. Dating sucks really, I don't want loads of blokes, I just want one. Just one special one thats all. I don't mind if he is sometimes grumpy or farts, I don't mind if he hogs the bed or can't cook... I am not bothered if he has a bald head or is 5ft tall, I don't care if he is a bit fat (don't want too fat as I want to do things and spend time with him) or thin... I just care that he is a good man that isn't going to use me for everything that he can then beggar off... I just care that he cares about me so I can care about him too! I want some one I can spoil rotten! Sadly you have to go through all the frogs to find your prince as a means to and end... Online dating is just another means to an end...
carhill Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I have just been going through the guys on the On Line Dating site I am on... There are hardly any under 6ft tall... Most are around 6ft 2" - 6ft 4" I guess they are either lying or short guys really do have a better chance of dating as there are not many on there... Some of them have pictures of them standing next to others and yes they are tall... In the virtual world a guy can be as tall as he wants and as rich as he wants. To the extent which prospective dating partners select for such criteria, short and poor men, if they're honest, won't get dates with those who exclude them from consideration. I'm not aware of any verifiable metrics on the inclusion/exclusion ratios. Maybe they're out there, IDK. I haven't been short since maybe 10 years old so have no idea how rejection for lack of stature goes. Was rejected plenty for whatever other reasons there are. Part of life I guess.
somedude81 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Well now you know what to look for you can quit being a Florence Nightingale with the next one! It's not like I knew any better. As I said before, she was my first girlfriend. So here I am, friends with a very cute girl who is in an unhappy relationship. She starts to like me and when she told me that she broke up with him I couldn't ask her out fast enough. Now that I know better, I would still do it all over again. She was my only girlfriend so it was her or nothing. If I'm in that situation again where a girl has a boyfriend and she hints about wanting to leave him for me, I have to accept that if I don't have any other options. All I can do is try to protect myself and not get too attached. I have been single for nearly a year with a minor dalliance in the summer... Hah me too. I had a short casual thing. Still it didn't count nearly as much as being in an actual relationship. So far every man I have asked out has turned me down too!!! So somedude you are not alone! Far from it. Were you asking out random men or guys you actually knew? I have also had a bit of a problem in that many of the men who seem suitable at first and who are keen are also married or in long term relationships... Next! Yeah that can be a problem. It's good that you didn't stick around. I think I am lucky in that I am not too worried. Yes, I would love to have someone to love and spoil again, yes I really miss sex, snogging and blow jobs in particular but I have loads of other things with which to occupy my time. Its not the end of the world if it doesn't happen. I can go off and do other things instead. Does having other things to do in life really make up for not having a partner? To me it sounds like it's just a distraction from being single. But that's probably just how I am. Dating sucks really, I don't want loads of blokes, I just want one. Just one special one thats all. I completely agree. I hate the idea of dating. Where I have to go out with a lot of girls and find somebody that I like and who likes me back. Honestly I rather just jump into an instant relationship after knowing the girl for a while. My ex and I were friends for five or so months before our first date. So on our first date it felt like she was already my girlfriend. God I miss her. There was another girl that I met last year that I felt like was a perfect match and I would have liked to go straight into being in a relationship with her, but she didn't even want to give me a chance. I have no idea why not. She was only 5'1 so I'd like to believe that my height wasn't an issue. I don't mind if he is sometimes grumpy or farts, I don't mind if he hogs the bed or can't cook... I am not bothered if he has a bald head or is 5ft tall, I don't care if he is a bit fat (don't want too fat as I want to do things and spend time with him) or thin... I just care that he is a good man that isn't going to use me for everything that he can then beggar off... I just care that he cares about me so I can care about him too! It sounds like you have very reasonable requirements. I don't have any idea why you're having trouble. I want some one I can spoil rotten! Sadly you have to go through all the frogs to find your prince as a means to and end... Online dating is just another means to an end... Yes it is. Though you should have pretty good luck on OLD. Just keep going through the frogs. You should eventually find the right one.
NJ123 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Get on match and do a search for girls age 20 - 30. Almost all of them list their height requirement, it's usually 5'10 or 6'. I would assume the guys are lying in order to talk to the girls. The height thing is no myth This is why online dating is the absolute worst.
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