Jax12 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 My friend keeps asking me to go to a strip club and I keep telling him no. First thing is that it's a complete waste of money. If anything I'd watch porn instead. I find women attractive but not in the way that my friend objectifies them. I wouldn't spend money just to see a woman naked. Does anyone else not find strip clubs entertaining? I don't see a point in it. And I don't want to ruin my expectations either.
Haydn Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Try it? Then decide. Just take a large wad of wonga if you intend to partake and avail yourself of a `lapdance` I`m not a fan but i have no problem with them. 1
Friskyone4u Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Jax Everyone is different. I have would up in strip clubs with business associates once in a while and once the initial excitement of the naked women wears off and they start a feeding frenzy trying to get every penny in your wallet the euphoria wears off fast. The overwhelming number of these girls regard you as a nameless piece of **** whose sole function is to throw money at them. You can make your own judgements. Everyone is different . At some point your friend may outgrow his apparent need to act like a moron to impress his friends and throw dollar bills at a woman who is trying to make ends meet but who could not care if you live or die Save your money and spend it on a girl who likes you for who you are
thefooloftheyear Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I love the female form....If it wasnt so inappropriate, Id wallpaper my entire house with nudes...That being said.. Ive worked in strip clubs(doorman/bouncer),and know a guy that used to own a few clubs..Ive gone on occasions as a customer as well..The whole thing just seems kinda cheesy...A bunch of fat, bald,old creepy guys and goofy kids that get stupid at the sight of a pair of tits, throwing dollar bills at the women and sometimes totally humiliating them in the process by making dumbass comments... I have more fun with a bunch of buddies watching a game in a sports bar or just going to a restaurant, eating a good meal and having some laughs... But try it out so you can say you had the experience...Just be respectful. .02 TFY 2
salparadise Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I find women attractive but not in the way that my friend objectifies them. I wouldn't spend money just to see a woman naked. [...] And I don't want to ruin my expectations either. Good for you! Just tell your friend thanks for asking but it's not for me, so please don't keep trying to convince me. I don't get it either. It's just a 3D fantasy show designed to separate you from your money. If you're already operating above that mentality there is certainly no point in doing it accommodate a guy! Some men are so drawn to this stuff that they can't resist. Be thankful you aren't one of them. Let your buddy find another guy to date while you focus on going out with women (real ones).
Frank2thepoint Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Strips clubs do have some entertainment value. I've been to only two strip clubs my entire life. My first one was an all nude. Second one was in Vegas (not all nude), and the fun part was I had to grab some strippers' derriere and pushed them away to get to the restroom. Good times. I wouldn't spend money just to see a woman naked. A lot of people still pay for porn. From web streams to DVDs, people actually use money. They don't know how easily you can get it for free.
Author Jax12 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 Ah, entertainment value. That makes sense. But I have another question. Many of the guys I know will talk about girls and say how hot they are and how they would want to sleep with them. Never really crossed my mind. I don't look at a girl and say whether I would sleep with them or not, seems reckless. Thoughts?
The Mighty Quinn Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I find women attractive but not in the way that my friend objectifies them. I wouldn't spend money just to see a woman naked. I have to admit, I get baffled sometimes with the way guys approach things like strip clubs and porn. Are you not objectifying the women in the porn movies? *scatches head*. Jax, based on my experience, most men like to believe the don't objectify women nearly as bad as other guys do. That's a common thread. I will also say that there is a collective mentality that feels entitled to free porn that takes away from the money and resources of the actors and actresses in the film. Those people got to get paid too. Tons of men enjoy this kind of entertainment, yet they don't even want to pay for believing that women should just give them a sexual show for free. It's some strange and messed-up times we live in.
Frank2thepoint Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 But I have another question. Many of the guys I know will talk about girls and say how hot they are and how they would want to sleep with them. Never really crossed my mind. I don't look at a girl and say whether I would sleep with them or not, seems reckless. Thoughts? If it's just for sex, then for a guy that can be any attractive woman. Girl on a college campus, the cute barista, cashier at supermarket, and the list goes on. The only appeal about a stripper is that they are half naked. Men and women have been doing one night stands since mankind has existed. It may be reckless if you don't use protection, and other factors such as pregnancy or emotional attachment, but otherwise sex is a human need that is hard to resist and to quench.
StanMusial Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Back when I was single and on the scene I always preferred going to a bar or club and talking to real girls instead of strip clubs. There was always someone hanging around though that wanted to go look at boobies or go to the local "massage parlour". It's OK every now and then... Seems more like fantasy land for guys who can't get laid or old married guys though, for the most part.
E-Squared Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I only remember going to a strip club once in my life and that was when I was 18. I remember enjoying myself and I remember a couple of old friends joked with me thinking that I would go crazy at the sight of a naked woman, when they couldn't have been more wrong. From my experience, I remember seeing a topless woman and I was just calm about it. It was no different from seeing a topless woman in a movie I watch or even when I remember a girl flashing me in class when I was 15 (No joke about that, either). The things that stood out the most to me from that night were a stripper noticing that I was "being shy" when I think that I zoned out a bit when sitting near the stage. The other was a stripper commenting on my hair being soft when she rubbed her breasts against my head. I wouldn't mind going again, but even that one night, I could just say that I had fun but not enough to think that it was a blast. Not to mention the smell of the perfume stayed in my nose for the rest of the night.
Author Jax12 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Posted February 12, 2015 I only remember going to a strip club once in my life and that was when I was 18. I remember enjoying myself and I remember a couple of old friends joked with me thinking that I would go crazy at the sight of a naked woman, when they couldn't have been more wrong. From my experience, I remember seeing a topless woman and I was just calm about it. It was no different from seeing a topless woman in a movie I watch or even when I remember a girl flashing me in class when I was 15 (No joke about that, either). The things that stood out the most to me from that night were a stripper noticing that I was "being shy" when I think that I zoned out a bit when sitting near the stage. The other was a stripper commenting on my hair being soft when she rubbed her breasts against my head. I wouldn't mind going again, but even that one night, I could just say that I had fun but not enough to think that it was a blast. Not to mention the smell of the perfume stayed in my nose for the rest of the night. Yeah I don't go crazy at the sight of breasts. I mean, I'll stare at them and their ass especially when they're in a bikini (damn lol), but it won't drive me crazy. I'd imagine that I could have fun but not have a blast, like you said.
Robert Z Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) My big surprise was that strip clubs are really about lap dances. And these lad dances were full nude and touching was [not legally] allowed once you got to know them. I'm not really urging anyone to do this. I never did until I was into my fifties and divorced and then only for a couple of months. But I must say, a drop-dead gorgeous woman who knows how to give a good lap dance is not to be taken lightly! One night my favorite girl literally left me staggering so badly I had to leave. The great lap dancers know how to drive a man wild by hitting primal triggers. It all came as quite a shock. And I don't think it is an art that can be entirely learned. Some women just have that something special. I used to get a kick out of watching the real young guys come out of the back rooms and stagger back to the bar. They generally looked a bit lost and confused. But I understood. Been there done that!!! Oh, and my favorite girl eventually became my barber and a good buddy! Edited February 12, 2015 by Robert Z
Got it Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 My husband as said the same. He has gone a number of times but his comment was the idea of going with a group of people (which most of his experience has been in a group) and sitting there turned on with other men was just weird. And it wasn't worth the price. If he wanted sex, he felt he could get it for free, so paying for it was not of interest, and just staring at naked woman, while nice, can be done watching porn and in the comfort of one's own home. He has said, as he got older, the novelty lessened. (I am neutral on them and we have talked about going together. He is open to that idea but a strip club isn't a major fantasy for him).
Robert Z Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 And it wasn't worth the price. If he wanted sex, he felt he could get it for free, so paying for it was not of interest, and just staring at naked woman, while nice, can be done watching porn and in the comfort of one's own home. He has said, as he got older, the novelty lessened. So it wasn't worth it but he did it for how long? Obviously he thought it was worth it for some time. Also, he never mentioned lap dances?
Got it Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 So it wasn't worth it but he did it for how long? Obviously he thought it was worth it for some time. Also, he never mentioned lap dances? How long? Like the visit? He has gone in his younger years for a bachelor party or two, in the military, etc. I have no idea how many, I didn't ask. It isn't like it is on his calendar routinely. I can't remember if he mentioned lap dances or not. Robert, really, I get it you like paying for sex but you know there are guys who aren't as turned on by that arrangement as you right? Some feel they are too cheap or just don't care. I am not saying he didn't enjoy it but he doesn't feel it is worth the money. My first husband never went to a strip club, was with him since high school. He was never interested and wasn't interested in doing a bachelor party or participating in them. I don't know any guy who has made a habit of it.
MissBee Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) My friend keeps asking me to go to a strip club and I keep telling him no. First thing is that it's a complete waste of money. If anything I'd watch porn instead. I find women attractive but not in the way that my friend objectifies them. I wouldn't spend money just to see a woman naked. Does anyone else not find strip clubs entertaining? I don't see a point in it. And I don't want to ruin my expectations either. If you don't want to go, don't go especially if you have strong objections to it. I've been a few times, I liked it most times except for one club where I felt it was truly like a "meat market". I can certainly understand other people's objections and wouldn't pressure anyone into going if they don't want to. I've watched a ton of porn and it certainly isn't "the same" as watching a live stripper though, so I'm not sure why people equate watching your television or computer with an actual in person performance. It's like saying having front row seats to a concert is the same as watching it on TV. It's not. Edited February 13, 2015 by MissBee
blackcat777 Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) I think part of the issue concerning strip clubs is that women may feel a conditioning pressure from society and thus divorce from their dark and carnal sexual nature--which is a part of human nature--it's something in all of us that we need to feel to feel complete. I had an epiphany when a sheltered younger friend of mine was ranting about the joys of a strip club and he said to me, "I felt SO POWERFUL! It's an experience you just can't get with your girlfriend!" I was like, "Yeah, buddy, uh, some people do..." (He didn't believe me.) My boyfriend just laughed. It made me kind of sad that the disconnect of acceptance between men and women was so wide that strip clubs exist to provide men a primal validation that many women are too uncomfortable to explore. I think ladies need to be confident in knowing they can sex their man better than any fantasy dancer! People need both the dark (crazy sexy animal passion) and the light (love, connection, bonding, friendship) to feel happy and fulfilled. How many people cheat because the flame as gone out? Both men and women need to feed their inner beasts! Strip clubs happen to be one socially acceptable way for men to do that, when they are often starved otherwise. I'm sure for many men that a strip club is just front row seats to a nice show. But for those who are really moved by the experience... I think it allows a safe way to explore a certain part of the psyche that isn't always "politically correct." That's my Freudian analysis. Also, professional pole dancing is one hell of an art. I'm obsessed with watching the world pole championships on Youtube. I started taking private pole fitness classes (the irony is, I've never been to a strip club... but I do want to go to a classy one to observe the dancers in their natural habitat ), and I feel like I'm hit by a truck after every workout. Martial arts NEVER worked me that hard. I wouldn't doubt those women are strong enough to crush a man's skull between their legs. Edited February 13, 2015 by blackcat777 1
E-Squared Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah I don't go crazy at the sight of breasts. I mean, I'll stare at them and their ass especially when they're in a bikini (damn lol), but it won't drive me crazy. I'd imagine that I could have fun but not have a blast, like you said. You have to remember that this was when I was 18 when it happened, and I think that my friends were either exaggerating or just messing with me about this, or maybe they really thought that I would go that crazy. When I went, it was exactly how I thought I would behave from the start. I was mostly calm about it. I don't miss the smell of perfume, because it stayed in my nose for a few hours.
Ethan78 Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 I hate the idea of strip clubs. Men with low self esteem sitting around and watching women who they would probably not have the confidence to talk to in any other scenario. I like the way people make women out to be objectified victims. It is often the men who are dumb enough to be played by strippers who are aware of their loneliness and will sometimes let the guy believe she is really into him. I watched a TV documentary from the US where a woman was doing exactly that. She was even ringing the guy outside of the strip club Clearly she was playing with his emotions and the guy was paying hundreds of dollars a week for the privilege. The idea that she is a victim in that scenario is ridiculous.
ktya Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) My friend keeps asking me to go to a strip club and I keep telling him no. First thing is that it's a complete waste of money. If anything I'd watch porn instead. I find women attractive but not in the way that my friend objectifies them. I wouldn't spend money just to see a woman naked. Does anyone else not find strip clubs entertaining? I don't see a point in it. And I don't want to ruin my expectations either. I have been to a lot of strip clubs. What I find the best feature of them is that its a way to hang out with the guys without everyone trying to pick up some girl. The waitresses are cool with the fact your gawking at tail and are really flirty and usually pretty good looking. Some guys drool over the strippers. Some guys just quietly watch and drink. Smarter guys pay more attention to the waitresses, because they appreciate the attention while all the other guys are gawking at the stage. The smartest guys work the system. The lap dance girls wandering around they buy them drinks, give them smokes, tease them that they might want a dance, get them to sit at their table. Drag them out as long as possible and you'll probably get a double header for the price of one if they like you and you have a good sense of humor. We have no contact "private dances" here at clubs that serve alcohol and I had a private dancer rip off her camisole, throw it over the camera, jump in my lap and grind me so good I actually creamed my pants. Had another one actually french kiss me. Poor girl, she got fired for that. I felt bad for her. Made for an interesting night when I got home to my girlfriend trying to get those sticky pants off without her seeing, lol. Laundry got done that night :-P Strip clubs are fun sometimes. Just dont overdo them. Enjoy it your own way, to each unto their own. You might just have a blast yakking with your buddies and not even paying attention to the women. Edited February 17, 2015 by ktya
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