Do you care where your partners went to school? If you are more "elitely" educated?

January 25, 2015

Well, I care. I prefer to date someone who went to college and has a decent career. People need college to get that good career-aka doctors, lawyers, engineers, ALL need college degrees. And no college isn't just a piece of paper. It will be rewarding in the end for those that actually make something of themselves and what they do with that degree. Sorry, but I'm not doing to date a bum with a high school diploma that works with a bunch of white trash people with no education and makes less than $25,000. Its disgusting. I want someone who is successful, not some redneck hillbilly. We don't live in a third world country, we have opportunities in America.

January 25, 2015

Well, I care. I prefer to date someone who went to college and has a decent career. People need college to get that good career-aka doctors, lawyers, engineers, ALL need college degrees. And no college isn't just a piece of paper. It will be rewarding in the end for those that actually make something of themselves and what they do with that degree. Sorry, but I'm not doing to date a bum with a high school diploma that works with a bunch of white trash people with no education and makes less than $25,000. Its disgusting. I want someone who is successful, not some redneck hillbilly. We don't live in a third world country, we have opportunities in America.

Any man who ends up dating you has my greatest sympathies.

January 25, 2015

The most important thing is that they should have gone to a school where they were taught that there is no such word as "elitely."

January 25, 2015

Well, I care. I prefer to date someone who went to college and has a decent career. People need college to get that good career-aka doctors, lawyers, engineers, ALL need college degrees. And no college isn't just a piece of paper. It will be rewarding in the end for those that actually make something of themselves and what they do with that degree. Sorry, but I'm not doing to date a bum with a high school diploma that works with a bunch of white trash people with no education and makes less than $25,000. Its disgusting. I want someone who is successful, not some redneck hillbilly. We don't live in a third world country, we have opportunities in America.

This is a False Dilemma (reading Hokies sig) It does not have to be doctor/lawyer or bum who hangs out with hillbillies. Sheesh. I've know a number of blue collar guys or self employed guys who pull in over $100k. There is a bit of a shortage of skilled trades people where I live as everyone flocks to university. Are your police officers - white trash. What about your local govt people, and your local store franchisees or your local quantity surveyors or your local real estate agents or your local naturopaths or personal trainers or printing/marketing people, pilots, etc.

January 25, 2015

Well, I care. I prefer to date someone who went to college and has a decent career. People need college to get that good career-aka doctors, lawyers, engineers, ALL need college degrees. And no college isn't just a piece of paper. It will be rewarding in the end for those that actually make something of themselves and what they do with that degree. Sorry, but I'm not doing to date a bum with a high school diploma that works with a bunch of white trash people with no education and makes less than $25,000. Its disgusting. I want someone who is successful, not some redneck hillbilly. We don't live in a third world country, we have opportunities in America.

How absolutely, and so amusingly, ironic.

January 25, 2015

This is a False Dilemma (reading Hokies sig) It does not have to be doctor/lawyer or bum who hangs out with hillbillies. Sheesh. I've know a number of blue collar guys or self employed guys who pull in over $100k. There is a bit of a shortage of skilled trades people where I live as everyone flocks to university. Are your police officers - white trash. What about your local govt people, and your local store franchisees or your local quantity surveyors or your local real estate agents or your local naturopaths or personal trainers or printing/marketing people, pilots, etc.

Bill Gates didn't finish college...look how he turned out. Ta da!!!

I mean, not everyone's circumstances allowed them to go to college and/or a particular college. Also, there's smart people who get bored with the classroom setting. So, a college education and/or where you went to college isn't necessarily a measure of your intelligence.

Also, there are people who are only good at going to school. They can't put into practice what they learned. Where do you think mal practice suits and/or lawyers getting suspended/removed comes from?

Geee, recently I had to just roll my eyes at some snobs I have to deal with. I have a Masters, but I don't wear it on my sleeve. I know I'm a "know-it-all", but that arrogance came from my father. But gosh, listening to the tone and attitude of some peeps I had to deal with recently made me wanna puke. They wanna wear their degrees on their sleeve. What....ever

I don't consider myself as stuck-up and full of myself like they are and God humble me never to get that way.

January 25, 2015

Well, I care. I prefer to date someone who went to college and has a decent career. People need college to get that good career-aka doctors, lawyers, engineers, ALL need college degrees. And no college isn't just a piece of paper. It will be rewarding in the end for those that actually make something of themselves and what they do with that degree. Sorry, but I'm not doing to date a bum with a high school diploma that works with a bunch of white trash people with no education and makes less than $25,000. Its disgusting. I want someone who is successful, not some redneck hillbilly. We don't live in a third world country, we have opportunities in America.

There are billionaires that don't have a college degree. Someone can invent or sell a product or service, start a business and become successful without getting a college degree.

It would bother me more if someone had racked up a bunch of student loan debt that's going to take them most of their life to repay, rather than which college they got it from.

January 25, 2015

Serious question though...for those who have been out of school for a while, what is your opinion on the direction of a lot of the "elite" schools (not necessarily Ivy League only) towards social "equality" and "inclusion" and oftentimes very biased supression of academic expression and speech...?

I've been getting my daily College Fix lately and it just shocks and disappoints me the way prestigious schools are churning out hypersensitive, fragile, and overly entitled twits...

Just speaking from the US News & World Report top 10-15 schools, most places have gotten really good about attracting diverse talent. College is still expensive overall, but the financial aid offered for students at "elite" schools is absurdly good, and that's allowed a much wider range of people to attend in recent years. One of my good friends literally got a top-tier education for free just on a need-based grant from the school (ie, she didn't have to apply for any crazy outside scholarships). She's an extraordinarily independent thinker, and the school did everything to help her steer her academic expression.

There's definitely a chunk of people who fit your description, but a lot of my friends from those institutions are some of the strongest, most driven people I've ever met.

January 25, 2015

Just speaking from the US News & World Report top 10-15 schools, most places have gotten really good about attracting diverse talent. College is still expensive overall, but the financial aid offered for students at "elite" schools is absurdly good, and that's allowed a much wider range of people to attend in recent years. One of my good friends literally got a top-tier education for free just on a need-based grant from the school (ie, she didn't have to apply for any crazy outside scholarships). She's an extraordinarily independent thinker, and the school did everything to help her steer her academic expression.

Well, I'm sure the school gets something out of it like when she goes on to do big things they'll say "she's a grad of X school" and the school gets the good publicity

January 25, 2015

I am never bothered if I am more qualified or my 'Flame' is. A degree for me was a discipline. But Hokie has a point. Elite institutions do seem to produce an over entitled group. But usually they were before they went. Look at the UK conservative party. Quite a few 'silver spoons' there.

January 25, 2015

No, don't care. Most people I know chose a university based on geographical suitability. Either they went to uni in their home town (but still went to live in halls in my situation) because they had a part time job/relationship there, or they went somewhere where it was cheap to live. I don't really know anyone who went to the elite universities in my country (Oxford, Cambridge) and after those (and LSE) really, other than the ones at the very bottom, it's quite irrelevant I think.

Unless your degree is from a very particular university, most employers don't really seem to care as long as you qualified. It's more about what you do with it, what kind of voluntary/extra-curricular stuff you did during your time there, if you worked as well as studied (that always gives you a better response from employers) and how hard you job hunted and how willing you were to move once you graduated.

But I'm not an employer, I couldn't care less. I've known people go to less prestigious universities and make a success out of their life, and people who went to no university at all and still did well. I am more interested in where someone's career is now, and what their aspirations are, as well as who they are as people. I wouldn't be any more impressed with a date who went to Oxford than I am with someone who went to my local university. I think actually I'm more interested in the person's discipline rather than the university they went to.

January 25, 2015

Just speaking from the US News & World Report top 10-15 schools, most places have gotten really good about attracting diverse talent. College is still expensive overall, but the financial aid offered for students at "elite" schools is absurdly good, and that's allowed a much wider range of people to attend in recent years. One of my good friends literally got a top-tier education for free just on a need-based grant from the school (ie, she didn't have to apply for any crazy outside scholarships). She's an extraordinarily independent thinker, and the school did everything to help her steer her academic expression.

There's definitely a chunk of people who fit your description, but a lot of my friends from those institutions are some of the strongest, most driven people I've ever met.

I should clarify what I mean by "overly entitled." I'm not necessarily talking about financially entitled, but entitled in terms idealogy, thought, and expression. The whole idea of "triggers" comes to mind, when the whole class has to halt a discussion because someone *might* be offended. Why doesn't the individual just get the f*ck out of the classroom and let the rest of the class carry on with the discussion?

Another example; top law schools are avoiding the topic of rape law entirely because it might be trauamatic to students. Leave the classroom if it bothers you, so the rest of the class can learn.

Yet another example; law school students at Columbia insist on having final exams pushed to the right because of the Michael Brown incident. Seriously? Hypersensitive, overly entitled twits who take advantage of an overly accommodating education system.

The answer when faced with any kind of adversity is to cry discrimination and inequality...?

Edited January 25, 2015 by USMCHokie

January 25, 2015

Let's say you are a person with a high school diploma, Bachelor's degree, a Master's, and are in law school now, and all the schools you went to are pretty elite. Not like Harvard or Princeton, but just schools with good reputations.

But the person you are with went to college and has a few degrees as well but didn't go to as elite schools as you.

Do you care?

Going to an elite school does not mean that a person has good breeding...

There may be reasons why someone who is well bred didn't go to an elite school...

By demanding such educational standards you may be denying yourself a golden opportunity...

None elite/ college educated businessmen include Richard Bradson, Alan Sugar etc... Both earn far more than many who attended an elite school, college or university...

Personally I don't care if a chap is a bin man as long as he is the best bin man he can be, contributes to the household finances and doesn't waste his time, energy or money on things such as drugs etc.

Each to their own.

If its worth anything I work with people who did attend elite schools. They are no better than those who attended the local comprehensive at their jobs.

January 25, 2015

The most important thing is that they should have gone to a school where they were taught that there is no such word as "elitely."

Well, I'm a stupid person, so...

I thought it was a word!

January 25, 2015

Based on this thread, a more interesting question would be whether you'd dump someone who went to an elite school because s/he did. Sounds like most people would here.

That's kind of ... snobbish, IMO. Shrug.

I'm sure there are some men who aren't comfortable with their partner going further than they did in that area, just like there are some women who come from families where stuff like where your partner went to school is considered high priority.

From a base attraction standpoint I don't think it makes much difference though. If people want to restrict themselves in either way I'm fine with it. More sexy highly educated women for me. And more highly educated women to flirt with who are unsatisfied sexually because they picked the guy who went to harvard but can't bang them the way they want.

In general I'll take the girl I have the most sexual chemistry with anyday over picking by whether she works at McDonalds or the ESA.

January 26, 2015

My parents went to the number one party school in America.

I've never cared where they went.

Oh...partners.

No, I don't really care. Going to a good school means absolutely nothing in itself, really. Some people get in because of legacies, some people get in because of grades, and what people do with those degrees if they get them is a whole other matter.

At some point I stopped being impressed by people with Masters Degrees, too. Pretty much anyone can work hard enough to get one. In itself, possession of such a degree does not impress me. Ditto the Doctorates. I've met people with both who are kind of morons.

I don't know though, law school is pretty fancy stuff. In terms of law, if you're at an "elite" school for law, you'd darn well better be in the top of your class, writing for the law review, etc. Or you're more or less wasting your money on a fancy name, I would think.

January 26, 2015

Pretty elite schools? lol

January 26, 2015

Well, I'm sure the school gets something out of it like when she goes on to do big things they'll say "she's a grad of X school" and the school gets the good publicity

Yup, I'm just biding my time until she becomes a superstar in her field and I can say I know someone famous

The answer when faced with any kind of adversity is to cry discrimination and inequality...?

I don't want to derail the original topic, but I should at least express that I entirely disagree with your characterization of such complex issues as student entitlement. On some level, it is discrimination, and it's worth having a conversation about as a society. A topic for another thread.

Edited January 26, 2015 by callingyouuu

January 26, 2015

I got my high school diploma and my Bachelor's degree from elite schools. Looking back, I realize I used to be a big snob about the schools I went to. The main reason I cared so much about getting into an elite college was because I wanted to be around the smarter people. By the time I went to graduate school, it didn't matter as much because I assumed if people were going to graduate school they'd be likely to be more intelligent anyway. So I doubt I would have cared where anyone went to school if they also had a graduate degree. My husband went to a lesser high school and then only completed an associates at a community college. He did, however, go to Cornell before he went to the community college. He just managed to flunk out his first semester. While I know it shouldn't matter, the fact that he was able to get into an ivy league school probably did help his chances with me. I was looking for somebody I could have intellectual conversations with, and with only an associates he would have had to work harder to show me that otherwise.

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