Toodaloo Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 I have just sat listening to a group of people going on about diets, weight, clothes, best exercise and fattening foods, waxing, hair removal cream... Oh I can't have white bread because its sooo fattening... my waxer says I need to do X with my skin.... whats the calorific count on these biscuits, better not it will take me over my daily allowence? You would imagine it was women right? Nope it was a bunch of roughty toughty blokes. All in overalls and their work boots... The conversation was serious... You read the threads and we all seem to worry about the same things... we just talk about them in a different way. So are we really that different? I don't think so... 1
Author Toodaloo Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 Now one of them is humming the tune to Black Beauty and its started a conversation about how great Lassie was and wasn't it sad in the episode when... I think they are more in touch with their feminine sides than I am today!
Priv Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 I still think so. BUT... I am sporting a tiny hangover from high caloric beer the night before, unshaven at the office, humming to the tune of the mighty airwolf: Plugging away at an Excel sheet thinking if I get this tender right I might just save the world from the zombie apocalypse. Or something even more sinister... Yes I am that guy! 4
Author Toodaloo Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 I still think so. BUT... I am sporting a tiny hangover from high caloric beer the night before, unshaven at the office, humming to the tune of the mighty airwolf: Plugging away at an Excel sheet thinking if I get this tender right I might just save the world from the zombie apocalypse. Or something even more sinister... Yes I am that guy! Phroar!!! I can smell the pheromones from here You the man! My hero! I better not swoon or it might set the boys off on another tangent... I don't think I should encourage them today... I might have to start kissing boo boo's better instead of throwing the plaster box at them...! 1
Robert Z Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 So are we really that different? Yes! http://www.brucesallan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/473739183_5c99733c4b.jpg
PegNosePete Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 my waxer Unless they're professional swimmers or cyclists or porn actors, I think that's a highly atypical thing for a guy to say 2
Got it Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 No, in the whole spectrum of the two genders, there is not that much of a difference. Between individuals, yes. 1
Author Toodaloo Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 Unless they're professional swimmers or cyclists or porn actors, I think that's a highly atypical thing for a guy to say He gets his nose, back and feet waxed... I have to admit its like the Forest of Dene when it needs doing..! Please don't mention that they could be porn actors... The results could be a disaster for all man kind with this lot! Of the 4 one has just left his wife, 2 are married and the other is planning on getting married... very not gay... suspect they may get advice from gay friends though
StanMusial Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 He gets his nose, back and feet waxed... I have to admit its like the Forest of Dene when it needs doing..! Please don't mention that they could be porn actors... The results could be a disaster for all man kind with this lot! Of the 4 one has just left his wife, 2 are married and the other is planning on getting married... very not gay... suspect they may get advice from gay friends though Feet wax? Who is he, Frodo? 3
A O Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 So are we really that different? I don't think so... There are differences but they are not as great as it seems.
Gloria25 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 I think the example you used is not indicative of a similarities amongst the sexes... I mean, I saw on a movie where a chick said that men are gossips - sometimes bigger than women...but that was about men blabbing about women who sleep around. So duh, doesn't mean men are like women and like to gossip. It just means that men talk about women who sleep around and who doesn't know that already? I think there's a lot of "fighting biology" that people are doing now a days. They wanna play this "unisex" thing where gender traits/characteristics are fluid. While I do believe environment (i.e. giving your boy Barbies vs. tools to play with) can influence perceptions of gender, I still believe that like animals, we are born with certain biological traits that distinguish male from female.
gaius Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Must have been on their way to the village people convention. They all shouldn't have picked the construction worker though. 2
Shepp Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 I think there's a lot of "fighting biology" that people are doing now a days. They wanna play this "unisex" thing where gender traits/characteristics are fluid. While I do believe environment (i.e. giving your boy Barbies vs. tools to play with) can influence perceptions of gender, I still believe that like animals, we are born with certain biological traits that distinguish male from female. I watched a thing on the telly once about raising kids, they had babies all the same age and they asked them to crawl down a slope that could be set to different gradients. They gradual increased the gradient to see the steepest slope each baby could/would crawl down. But first they asked the parents to set the slope as steep as they thought their kid could manage. If I remember right, the kids achieved a mix bag of results but the consistent pattern was parents of girls expected wayyy less from their kid. Baby girls ability and bravery was consistently underestimated. Always stuck with me that. When I have a daughter I don't ever want to do that. I want to make sure I set the bar as high as I do for her brothers! 5
Danda Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 There are neurological differences between the male and female brain, as well as differences in which parts of the brain activate for different tasks (for spatial stuff men and women use completely different parts of the brain, for example) but the actual effects of those differences are subtle and affect how the two genders tend to process, analyze and approach situations (again though in subtle manners). But as far as hobbies, interests, passions, vanity, etc I think that's more of an individual thing and gender trends are simply socially engineered. With some stuff it does make sense, though. I think testosterone and estrogen do play a part. Sports for example is simulated warfare. But then so is chess. So I think you can get men who love the very physical, primal-competitiveness in sports, and men who love the strategic element in sports more so (basically warriors and generals up in the bleachers, with the mindset). But you can also get women very into sports, just seemingly not as often, and perhaps often for other reasons, and again I think it's hormonal differences. Because women can definitely enjoy competition, but tend to enjoy it differently. I think most enjoy competition where they excel, and women tend to make excellent snipers but not very good quarterbacks lol.
StanMusial Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 I watched a thing on the telly once about raising kids, they had babies all the same age and they asked them to crawl down a slope that could be set to different gradients. They gradual increased the gradient to see the steepest slope each baby could/would crawl down. But first they asked the parents to set the slope as steep as they thought their kid could manage. If I remember right, the kids achieved a mix bag of results but the consistent pattern was parents of girls expected wayyy less from their kid. Baby girls ability and bravery was consistently underestimated. Always stuck with me that. When I have a daughter I don't ever want to do that. I want to make sure I set the bar as high as I do for her brothers! At that age they are all about equal strength-wise. Once the nards drop that changes, typically. Most parents want to raise their kids up to be ready for all of that.
Author Toodaloo Posted January 11, 2015 Author Posted January 11, 2015 Feet wax? Who is he, Frodo? He will kill me for saying it but yes he does look like Frodo before a waxing session! As for the gossiping... I am no where near a match for these guys. You can't fart with out everyone within a 5 mile radius knowing it! They do sometimes talk about sex and women but I find its mostly its about other stuff that is going on when I bother to listen in. Danda you make some really good points. However I did read somewhere that the most violent warriors in history were women. There was a clan who were exceptional and "retired" upon having babies because they were less aggressive post birth... Famous warriors, brain not working, during the era of Boadicea etc... Someone help me out here! There was also a King who had his private guard as all female as he considered them to be far better then men. Some Egyptian chap... Wish I had a better memory sometimes...
littleblackheart Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Danda you make some really good points. However I did read somewhere that the most violent warriors in history were women. There was a clan who were exceptional and "retired" upon having babies because they were less aggressive post birth... Famous warriors, brain not working, during the era of Boadicea etc... Someone help me out here! ... The Amazons? That's Greek mythology though, I don't know if that's who you had in mind...
hotpotato Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 I'd say men and women are extremely different. Men in general are more ruff and tumble. Men are very different from women when it comes to sex. Men usually have different interests. As someone who is stuck in between male and female, I promise, men and women are very different. Some celebs use female body guards. Not because they are stronger, but because they blend in better. Would'be assailants are looking for the stereotypical big and tuff bodyguard.
dichotomy Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) I still think so. BUT... I am sporting a tiny hangover from high caloric beer the night before, unshaven at the office, humming to the tune of the mighty airwolf: Yes I am that guy! Ha....Thats my ringtone on my phone. Edited January 11, 2015 by dichotomy
Shepp Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 At that age they are all about equal strength-wise. Once the nards drop that changes, typically. Most parents want to raise their kids up to be ready for all of that. Strengths a physical quality - which guys have more of (genuinely, obviously there's exceptions, but an averagely fit guy will be stronger than an averagely fit girl). But having the strength needed to accomplish a task - half of that's in the mind. The second you don't believe in yourself you limit yourself. I'd rather my kids had 100% faith they could move a mountain - male or female. 3
Author Toodaloo Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 The Amazons? That's Greek mythology though, I don't know if that's who you had in mind... Thank you. Close but no its not... I wish I had a better memory. Its OK - back to football today! 1
littleblackheart Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Thank you. Close but no its not... I wish I had a better memory. Its OK - back to football today! If it ever comes back to you please let me know - I've been racking my brain over it all evening!
Author Toodaloo Posted January 14, 2015 Author Posted January 14, 2015 If it ever comes back to you please let me know - I've been racking my brain over it all evening! I know its really annoying and been driving me mad since I started this now!
evanescentworld Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 There was a clan who were exceptional and "retired" upon having babies because they were less aggressive post birth... Famous warriors, brain not working, during the era of Boadicea etc... Someone help me out here! Yeah, could be the Amazons... or maybe the Valkyries.... Reminds me.... I need to develop my six-pack better.... how are my biceps looking....? (Gross - or what - ?!)
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