Interracial relationships bring out the racism in society (long)

[GirlDown]

oops i really screwed this up but i will be back

[HokeyReligions]

Originally posted by pretty1982

Originally posted by HokeyReligions

So what then? We should date people we don't find particularly attractive as a statement against racism?

 

This is okay: "I'm not racist, but I'm going to go to Asian churches and look for a guy there. That's not racist because I'll consider other races as date material based on the individual"

 

This is not okay: "I'm not racist but I don't find the typical physical characteristics of a black woman attractive so I'm not going to deliberately look for black dates, but I'll consider it based on the individual"

 

Looking for attributes that are typically associated with a race is OK, but dismissing attributes that are typically associated with a race is not? Both are exclusionary, are they not?

 

 

I'm not sure who you're referring to in your post but I haven't seen anyone here calling someone racist just because they're not attracted to a certain race so I'm sure that it's post here for someone else since you didn't quote anyone. I stated to the person I quoted that there are white men that find black women attractive because some of the white men here seem that it's so impossble for a white man to find a black woman attractive in any way.

 

I read the whole thread, I wasn't directing my comments to any one particular person, but to the thread as a whole and that is how I saw it.

 

the whole thread is full of contradictions, some even contradict themselves. I'm also familiar w/ some of the other racially motivated threads and the same opinions carry forward here.

 

I do think it interesting that so many people think that the Asian sex trade is somehow shameful, but at the same time, in the USA anyway, many people are aghast at those who go without sex for a long time and think its normal and natural for people to have sex to fulfill their own needs. There is a growing contingent of people in this country who want to legalize prostitution.

 

It begs the question: If prostitution is legalized in this country, should there be a quota system based on race? If an Asian owned 'brothel' (for lack of a better word) hires only Asians would that still be considered a race issue? If a white or black owned brothel hired only white or black prostitutes would that be considered discrimination?

 

If the majority of 'clients' were white men and they chose mostly Asian women, shouldn't the business owner be allowed to layoff those who generate the least amount of revenue for the business? It wouldn't be prudent to keep an employee who costs the company more money than they bring in. If an area is predominantly Black or Hispanic or Asian and their white prostitutes did not generate adequate revenue, shouldn't they have the legal right to terminate employment of white prostitutes?

 

You can't force someone to not have sex with their choice and to have sex with someone else. There wouldn't be any clients left and the business would go under.

 

I still say it comes down to choice. If all that is available is one particular race of people and a client wants to make a purchase that is a different situation.

 

As for naturally occurring relationships (be they emotional or strictly for sex) it's still a choice. There are more and more interracial couples because races are more dispersed and mingled in communities, schools, and workplaces. But when one group of people is saturated in one place it is natural to develop tastes according to one's surroundings and those will hold for generations. Geographical and social locations/stations play a BIG part -- it's a matter of convenience too.

 

Yes, there are people who will travel to find a certain type of person -- that's not going to change either, but that's not the majority of people on the planet.

[Pocky]

Not as extensively as you probably. Please enlighten me.

 

It's not about enlightening you. I was majoring in Asian Studies for some time and studied gender roles, specifically women in Asian countries. It's not something that I can just summarize in a short paragraph, although I have already given examples of how the view of women has been perpetuated in these cultures, it's really something you have to read yourself. You have to understand the cultures where these women live in order to understand their role. You have to understand the affect the governments have had on the lives of women. You have to understand the economic pressures these countries experience. It's not just a simple case of "white man is bad, white man think Asian woman whore."

 

 

So, now it's the fault of the governments there that so many white men have these ideas of Asian women in their head?

 

The cultures these women live in certainly haven't afforded them equal status. The stereotype of women, specifically in Asian countries is universal. It's not just in North America and amongst white men that Asian women are viewed this way.

 

 

Which factors?

 

You'd have to review the cultures where these women are located to understand the different factors. It's not just about the government cracking down, it's about the government and the culture redefining itself and literally reversing years of negative stereotype.

 

And in all honesty, I don't see Asian women being forced to be with white men. I don't see white men enslaving Asian women and forcing them to marry or sleep with white men. Granted, in many Asian countries the poverty level is so high, women are often participating in the sex industry simply because they have no other option, and while white men may be there biggest customer, I hardly see where the white man is stifling the advancement of these women.

 

If you want to debate the affect of prostitution on women in Asian countries then the line of thought has to go in a different direction. Right now, all that seems to be discussed here is that the white man is to blame for wanting, marrying, paying for sex and stereotyping Asian women and this is inaccurate.

[GirlDown]

italics are me talking...though, sadly, most of it speaks for itself.

 

Originally posted by Fatal Femme

First of all, I would like to say that I am by no means racist. [color=red]hilarious.[/color]

 

Asian women are seen as passive, soft-spoken and more domesticated, with an exotic/erotic appeal that White male perverts can't resist.

 

If Black women and Asian men are lacking dating partners [it's] because the members of the opposite sex in their respective races (Black men and Asian women) are pinched away by White people

 

 

I'm sick of hearing lame excuses from people who date interracially, such as 'it's love, why does skin colour matter' and 'love is colourblind'. The point of the matter is, the amount of true 'love' in many of these relationships is virtually nonexistent. Most of the time it's cultural or sexual stereotyping, or some sick fetish. [color=black][color=red] how the hell do you know? who the hell are you?[/color][/color]

 

In Australia where I come from, I notice many middle-aged Anglo men marrying Asian women half their age (or even a third of their age in some cases). I can scan the personals section of a newspaper and see many ads saying something along the lines of 'Aussie male seeks quiet, exotic, shy Asian female', with no such preference for women of other races. If the ad simply stated a preference for an Asian female, then for all you know it could be an Asian male placing the ad. Unfortunately, the ads explicitly refer to the White race, implying that White men and Asian women are somehow meant for each other more so than other interracial pairings. This is absolutely degrading.

[color=red] this is ridiculous, and perpetuating stereotype exactly the same way you wish to see it eradicated. [/color]

 

Many White men also enjoy going on sex tours in Asia. [color=red]only white men, hmmm, and only in asia. [/color] I'm sure that women in other parts of the Third World, like Africa and Latin America, also resort to prostitution as a means of subsistence, so if a White man wants some cheap sex, then why doesn't he go to a country somewhere closer to home? I don't support the foreign sex trade at all, but why do so many North American and European men make the long trip to Asia to have sex with foreign prostitutes? [color=red]oh, i jumped the gun, so it is okay as long as it's not asia and you clarify that you don't support the sex trade afterward...you make no sense[/color] It's bleeding obvious that they prefer sleeping with Asian women, whom they regard as fragile, delicate little China dolls with sweet-tasting and slanted pussies.

 

White men also regard Asian women as submissive and have been known to import Asian mail order brides with the expectation that they will slavishly serve them. On the internet, Asian women abound in porn sites and mail order bride sites. There is more Asian porn on the internet than White porn (I don't need to go deliberately looking for it, just type 'Asian' into a search engine and all you'll get are porn sites), reinforcing the fact there is definitely some stupid Asian women fetish among White men. [color=red]everyone has their likes and dislikes. oh well. get over it.[/color]

There are other aspects of interracial relationships that I don't agree with, but the reason why I have focussed on the White male/Asian female relationship is because it's the most common interracial pairing, and also the most degrading. [color=red] maybe to you. my white-asian friends would disagree, but they aren't morons. [/color]

There doesn't seem to be the same level of degradation behind, say, a White female and Black male relationship. Don't dismiss me as some unattractive White woman complaining about White men dating Asians because I can't attract a White man - as an Anglo woman I am actually ashamed of how the men in my culture view Asian women. I think they should be made aware of how many White men see them [asian women] as penis receptacles and are just out to use them, and to stay well away from dating and marrying such men. [color=red]i think you, as a white woman, have been seen as a penis receptacle yourself far too many times and this is what causes your very bitterness. [/color] In theory, I don't think interracial relationships are a bad idea. [color=red]just the ones that co*ckblock you, right? how convenient. [/color]

The world would be a much better place if people were more tolerant and did not judge others based on racial origin. [color=red]fabulous! let's start with you![/color] Unfortunately, I don't condone how the interracial relationship trend works in practice because many interracial daters are not looking for a person, but rather, a race and the physical/cultural stereotypes that supposedly come with that race. It's actually less racist to stick to dating people in one's own race, because at least there are no ulterior motives that way. [color=red]right, right, a penis receptacle is okay any day, so long as race is not a factor. [/color]

 

I think the intention behind many relationships in general are quite questionable [color=red]to who? to you? i am willing to bet the people in those relationships don't give a rat's ass what you think and would laugh in your face for something you have very little knowledge of. [/color]

 

i should mention i am white, and date a white guy, and i am not blonde, and we both find MANY asian women hot. who cares? and who cares who cares? ugh.[color=black][/color][color=0][/color][color=0][/color][color=0][/color][color=0][/color][color=0][/color][color=0][/color]

[powerslag]

You know i've never really noticed that asian males aren't desirable until I read it here. I'm East Indian and normally get a lot of female attention so I don't know where this comes from.

 

I also see lots of hot females included black females that me and my friends (some white, mexican, black) talk about how we would like to UNF UNF them.