dp22 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 So I met this girl on an app a few months ago but she was about two hours away from where I live so I never really intended to do anything with her but she was nice to talk to, however the more we talked the more we liked each other and eventually I decided I have to take her out and see if I even like her In person, so I did and we got along really well and since then I took her a few thoughtful and fancy dates- comedy show, minigolf movies fancy restaurants etc and things were really good between us and I started liking her more and more, she had a bad ex that cheated on her and really hurt her so she was having trouble making a full commitment and I tried my best to show her I'm not like that, I am quite romantic and liked making her feel special so amongst these normally at the end before we said good bye Id give her something with a cute note, flowers chocolates and 1 time some earings when I hadn’t seen her in a month cause of my exams. During these exams I also wrote her a letter, translated it to French and hand wrote it then posted it to her (shes half French) she said it made her cry and just wanted to keep re reading it. Things havnt been all perfect the whole time though and when we argue its mainly cause I want to see her and she wont want to or she cancels or something an I geuss I get persistent cause when we do go out we have a great time, and a couple of times shes says yeah I'm glad I did come out. Anyway during this whole time she didn’t want me to meet her parents and I did cause I am serious about her and never felt like this about a girl, but she said they just make a big deal she didn’t want that right now. Well eventually she came up to my place where I had a nice night planed for her gave her a massage, then set up a bath with, bubbly and chocolate covered strawberries, whilst she was in there I made a lobster meal with oysters, seafood chowder and couple of her favourite foods. After that I had to find a job over the summer for my degree and I found one in the town next to hers so I moved down there, we hung out a bit but I was expecting to see her a lot more, we had more arguments over that, and at times it was hard to tell if she really liked me, after one of these arguments she came over a couple of days later and apologised started telling me how lucky she was to have me etc. and things were good. Eventually I went in and met the parents and they seemed to like me and said I was lovely. Since then we saw each other a couple of times a week she said I was her boyfriend and it was looking good. One of the things that we have in common is that we want to travel, she is doing this Canada work experience thing next December and I had planed to do a holiday there and America after my degree so that’s the same time but after hearing about the working holiday it sounded like a better idea and thought we could do it together which she said shed like to. Ill come back to this. Another thing she wanted to do was camping so I said we could try in the summer, well Christmas came I got her a cookbook (inside joke) and at the back attached was a beauty massage voucher for her and her mum for a day. I also made her family a hamper, adding some French things in it. My mum invited her to come up with me for Christmas and she agreed, we stayed for a couple of nights had a good time but she forgot to txt her parents she was staying the extra night and they panicked we explained but think her mum was still upset. We planned to do a roadtrip/camping from the 29th to the 4th with us stoping at their batch for new years cause its her birthday then to and anyway things were good I got everything we needed packed was already then the night before she cancled and wouldn’t give a proper reason, so I went round the next day to see whats wrong and if nothing if we could go, she didn’t have anything else to do and I couldn’t understand why, so I was quite pushy which I regret now, and she got a bit pissed off, I went round again the next day, to try apologise but it didn’t really work and the mum I think started to not like me cause I was coming around unannounced which was stupid of me, I just thought If I could get her out and to talk to me id find out what was wrong etc. I happened to also mention to the mum that I was thinking of doing the working holiday with her. I was unaware this and the other stuff was making the mum not like me as she was still friendly. Well the next day they were going to the batch for new years eve which she had invited me to come but then said no and I got upset, cause I really wanted to spend her birthday with her and go into the new year together. She said she let me know the next day and I didn’t know why she wouldn’t want me if she likes me but shed say stuff like she does want me to come but just doesn’t know, she said shed let me know later that day and eventually she said I could come down in the night at 10 when I was about to leave I asked for the address but she wouldn’t give it but in a joking way so I thought she was just playing, then the brother randomly sent me a message with address and said it was fine to come so I headed out, about 15 minutes away from it she finally replied when I said I was almost there and she was like noooo, but I was like already there so I went in and it was good met more of the family and everything was good. I had a bit of an extravagant present for her though, when she was asleep I set up balloons a sign then clothes, a necklace chocolates, a pair of shoes and sports top and pants, all under a happy birthdays sign. She had told me she doesn’t like her birthdays so I told her id try make it a bit special, well when she saw it she was abit taken aback and didn’t know what to do but later told me she did like it just didn’t expect it. Anyway she then went out shopping with her mum and grandma, and apparently all the stuff I've done for her and that I was planning to do the Canada thing with her scared them and said she shouldn’t see me any more. During this time I was at home talking to the granddad and he mentioned that she looked overwhelmed by the gift and I knew it too and he was really good about it and I geuss I realized I was smothering her and needed to give her more space. Anyway when she got back I went and talked to her she told me what the mum and grandma said, and that she was starting to lean towards how they were thinking, but still likes me and just doesn’t know what she feels at the moment, I really like her and the granddad and dad were good about it and could see I genuinely cared about her but that I should just give her more space, the mum on the other hand I don’t think feels the same way but I tried talking to her after I finished with Elisa, and she said she could tell I was a really nice guy but I was scaring them with all the things I did and that it was elisas dream to go to Canada not mine, I told her that she had told me she would want me to come but then the mum said I don’t think she does still and its an experience she should do on her own, which I completely disagree with, experiencing all these amazing things and seeing all this stuff overseas is something I think is a lot nicer to share with someone else and Elisa thought the same thing but I have no idea how she feels about that now. Me and the mum talked some more and I tried to explain that I care about her a lot and I just wanted make her feel special, she just said that she was upset cause elisa was upset and if she was happy shed be happy but I think you two should be friends, I told her elisa still liked me and that I am going to give her more space, I've acted stupidly, and this is my first real relationship and I'm not really sure what I'm doing I just like her a lot and do my best to show her that. She said I was this close to pushing her away completely but if I was going to give her more space to prove it to her. I just apologised to her again thanked the grandparents and said bye to everyone and left. I really do like her so much and in my head the things I planned for her were meant to just make her happy and make it her best birthday yet. I still really want to do the Canada thing with her too and had actually applied before any of this happened but hadn’t told anyone cause I wanted to surprise Elisa. I know I need to give her some space and hope things work out and the mum likes me again cause I think shes having a huge influence on how Elisa feels. Any advice right now would be greatly appreciated cause i want to make this right so bad cause really i brought it on myself. We were actually meant to go camping tomorrow but that wont happen now either. She did message me when I got home to check I arrived safe and I apologized again and explained I was just trying to make it a special day for her but to forget about us for the day and enjoy her birthday. She said not to worry about it and just enjoy the new year but yeah now I really don’t know how she feels if she just wants me as a friend or is going to try get through this. I really don’t think I could be just her friend though cause I would never see her as just that.
evanescentworld Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 TL; DR. As with all dumps, read the NC Guide, walk away, heal yourself. Sounds like too much drama, and too much effort on your part to no end.
lavenderlove Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Hey... You sound like such a sweet guy. Doing all these wonderful things for her and being so genuine in your feelings. You have integrity and you know what you want. I think what scares most people is that most people don't think the way you do, they go hot and cold and big romances like yours are known to crash. So her parents are probably worried that all these big feelings are too fast and they might not want her to commit to you so early either. Maybe they got married very young and would want their daughter to live differently. I think you should slow down and let her make her decision. Let her go on her trip alone if she wants to. Just tell her, that it's up to her and you will respect her decision. The thing is that if she loves you she will keep in touch. She may actually need to go a trip alone it is not to do with you, sometimes people need space to come to terms with whatever they need to. Sounds like she needs to become a stronger and more independent person anyway because her parents are influencing her so much. I really really needed space when I met my ex ten years ago and ended up not getting any. It ruined our relationship, because there was something I should have learnt in that space I didn't end up learning... only ten years later.... If you really love her, show her your love by setting her free. You have no control over this, don't even try to act our some kind of plan to get her closer. Any of those moves now will push her away. Good luck and try not to get impatient and upset. 4
Assada Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I read that start of the huge post. OP you are super- needy and borderline feminine. - She will probably get tired of your insecurities and neediness, and leave you if she hasnt already Women find you even more pathetic when you try to buy their love 1
ExpatInItaly Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 She was giving you lukewarm signals, and even though you had good intentions, you really went overboard. It sounds to me that she felt suffocated and tried to communicate this to you but you either didn't understand or didn't want to hear her. Involving her family and talking to her relatives about it is just too much. Take a big step back and really give her some breathing room. Heck, even her mom's trying to tell you to do so. Next time, take things more slowly and don't put all your eggs in one basket. I know you meant well, but you need to let things develop naturally and not force them. If you feel you have to force it, something's not right about the relationship. 2
Jules Dash Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 , so I did and we got along really well and since then I took her a few thoughtful and fancy dates- comedy show, minigolf movies fancy restaurants etc and things were really good between us and I started liking her more and more, she had a bad ex that cheated on her and really hurt her so she was having trouble making a full commitment and I tried my best to show her I'm not like that, I am quite romantic and liked making her feel special so amongst these normally at the end before we said good bye Id give her something with a cute note, flowers chocolates and 1 time some earings when I hadn’t seen her in a month cause of my exams. During these exams I also wrote her a letter, translated it to French and hand wrote it then posted it to her (shes half French) she said it made her cry and just wanted to keep re reading it. I could only read a very small part of this post but you know it's not going to turn out well when you read the above quote.
Author dp22 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 Hey... You sound like such a sweet guy. Doing all these wonderful things for her and being so genuine in your feelings. You have integrity and you know what you want. I think what scares most people is that most people don't think the way you do, they go hot and cold and big romances like yours are known to crash. So her parents are probably worried that all these big feelings are too fast and they might not want her to commit to you so early either. Maybe they got married very young and would want their daughter to live differently. I think you should slow down and let her make her decision. Let her go on her trip alone if she wants to. Just tell her, that it's up to her and you will respect her decision. The thing is that if she loves you she will keep in touch. She may actually need to go a trip alone it is not to do with you, sometimes people need space to come to terms with whatever they need to. Sounds like she needs to become a stronger and more independent person anyway because her parents are influencing her so much. I really really needed space when I met my ex ten years ago and ended up not getting any. It ruined our relationship, because there was something I should have learnt in that space I didn't end up learning... only ten years later.... If you really love her, show her your love by setting her free. You have no control over this, don't even try to act our some kind of plan to get her closer. Any of those moves now will push her away. Good luck and try not to get impatient and upset. Thankyou, I am going to just back off and give her space she has told me she loves the stuff I do for her and yesterday thanked me for the presents and said shed never been so spoiled in her life, the trip is like a year away so we would be pretty serious if we were going out by then and I applied becuase she said shed love me there and it would be like having a piece of home over there. I asked her like 5 different times before I applied because it is a big thing and I wanted to really be sure shes ok with it and shed say you know I do, but its up to you (cause its kinda expensive) I know she still has feelings for me and I really just want the mum to like me again aswell, the dad said id see you soon when I shook his hand before leaving and I get the feeling he thinks we are still good if I give her space. I know I need to back off and leave it up to her, it is hard cause when I first asked her out we wanted the same things, she wanted something serious to. I don't know whether I should cut contact completely from her or keep in light contact.
Satu Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I don't know whether I should cut contact completely from her or keep in light contact. You've made it very clear what you want, so let her initiate the contact. That gives her a chance to examine her thoughts and feelings, while you get on with your life. 1
Author dp22 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 thanks ill do that, and I guess if what she felt was real things will work out 2
Satu Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 thanks ill do that, and I guess if what she felt was real things will work out That's the thing to keep in mind.
coolheadal Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Sounds like you have fallen head over heel for this girl you met on app. It's like your a knight in shinny armor riding your white horse to her house. But I understand where you coming from. But today's women life is so complex, and what your wants and needs are not the same with them. You have to 1. Listen, 2. Understand and 3. Watch it. Charge through like you didn't see what was happening. Panic set in you have turned to everyone in her family except the most important one her! Back-off and let her come to you. Stop with all these extra things your doing. Your going to loose her if you keep doing this. Not everyone can understand what your doing and why. So see with your mind not with your heart. The heart will get you into deep water as you are in now. Don't be blinded and open your eyes to the truth. Edited January 1, 2015 by coolheadal 1
sagetalk Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 she had a bad ex that cheated on her and really hurt her so she was having trouble making a full commitment and I tried my best to show her I'm not like that, So you are trying to show her that you are nothing like the kind of guys that make her hot and bothered? And you wonder why this isn't working? Find a girl that is hot and bothered by guys who take them out and genuinely care about them. Not girls that like guys that cheat and treat them poorly. She is probably out looking for another dirt bag right now as I write this. Don't blame yourself, she has some serious issues she needs to fix.
coolheadal Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Oh this girl you met on the app has been cheated on by her Ex? Different story. Here you come into her life and your not like that a cheater. So you'll have wait until she can trust again. Since her trust has been betrayed from her prior cheating Ex. If you really want this girl, be there for her and be very patient. Going to take a very long time for her too trust any new guy again. Now is your chance to show her who you are non-cheater, a gentlemen and so much more. You can do it!
Author dp22 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 Sounds like you have fallen head over heel for this girl you met on app. It's like your a knight in shinny armor riding your white horse to her house. But I understand where you coming from. But today's women life is so complex, and what your wants and needs are not the same with them. You have to 1. Listen, 2. Understand and 3. Watch it. Charge through like you didn't see what was happening. Panic set in you have turned to everyone in her family except the most important one her! Back-off and let her come to you. Stop with all these extra things your doing. Your going to loose her if you keep doing this. Not everyone can understand what your doing and why. So see with your mind not with your heart. The heart will get you into deep water as you are in now. Don't be blinded and open your eyes to the truth. thanks, yes i know i have smothered her and it is my fault, I did not go to her family me and the granddad were just talking about her present because we were the only two at home, everyone else had gone out, I opened up to him and he seemed to understand the dad came home and the grandad said what we talked about and he agreed. I only talked to the mum after I talked to Elisa because I felt I had to try mend things with her a little or at least let her know I understood what I had done but all I was trying to do was make her birthday special. the times I went to hers unannounced were mainly cause I could tell there was something wrong and she kept saying she was fine, I thought if I could her to come out, put a smile on her face shed open up and tell me whats wrong. I did think about just giving her space but because I didnt know what was wrong I thought that not doing anything or making no effort might feel like i'm abandoning her, and then cause these were special events I thought i had to put in the effort go to the batch make her birthday special, yeah I know I screwed up but this really is the first time ive felt like this about anyone and I really dont know what im doing, I just hope things do work out
Author dp22 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 So you are trying to show her that you are nothing like the kind of guys that make her hot and bothered? And you wonder why this isn't working? Find a girl that is hot and bothered by guys who take them out and genuinely care about them. Not girls that like guys that cheat and treat them poorly. She is probably out looking for another dirt bag right now as I write this. Don't blame yourself, she has some serious issues she needs to fix. no, she really isn't like that, yes she has had a hard time committing and after the last one I can understand why relationships scare her, she has confused me alot about what I should do but she was letting me in and spending Christmas with me and introducing me to her family were pretty big commitments, however I think I went overboard showing my affection for her I think the gifts and things I did for her arnt the real reason shes felt like this but because of how pushy ive been when she doesnt want to hangout and I regret being like that with her, hopefully space makes her realize I really did just mean the best for her and had good intentions. 1
Author dp22 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 Oh this girl you met on the app has been cheated on by her Ex? Different story. Here you come into her life and your not like that a cheater. So you'll have wait until she can trust again. Since her trust has been betrayed from her prior cheating Ex. If you really want this girl, be there for her and be very patient. Going to take a very long time for her too trust any new guy again. Now is your chance to show her who you are non-cheater, a gentlemen and so much more. You can do it! thankyou, I was patient with moving forward for quite a while cause I understand why she was having a hard time, Im not sure how she feels right now but the good times heavily outweigh the bad with her, and I think she still wants to be with me, my main concern is her parents her mum mainly cause I want thier blessing, well for them to be ok with me seeing their duaghter. recently before this at least she had said she trusted me, and on boxing day me and my mates planned to go to this event for a while, shes a light weight and got too drunk, by the time we arrived there she was feeling sick and threw up, i caught it in my hand to stop it going on her dress which was quite gross tbh, but then took her straight back home and looked after her, she was pissed off with herself for getting to drunk and said i should have just left her and gone with my mates, i told her I would have never done that, and then i was like i hope this at least proves im always going to have your back, and she was just like i already know that you have nothing to prove. so i think she was starting to really trust me I just screwed things up in the last few days, cause her canceling the road trip really caught me off guard and was very frustrating cause i spent that whole day getting everything we could need to make it as comfortable as possible for her.
coolheadal Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Plain and simple my boy, your in love with this girl! Now if she feels the same way then you two have something to look forward too. Now and the years to come. Do keep us posted here on your continuous quest!
Author dp22 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 Yeah I think I am, :/ ive wanted to tell her, but I thought it was too early, and when i say it i want to be 100% sure I mean it, besides right now I think It would make things worse if i said anything like that
fred123 Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 I read that start of the huge post. OP you are super- needy and borderline feminine. - She will probably get tired of your insecurities and neediness, and leave you if she hasnt already Women find you even more pathetic when you try to buy their love this isn't true. my brother in law did the same and well he is my brother in law now. she didn't think he was needy or feline. she thought he was really sweet and romantic and he is such a caring nice guy not like the other douchebags. if she really likes you then she will love everything you do and its never needy or feminine. she didnt find him pathetic. 1
Author dp22 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 this isn't true. my brother in law did the same and well he is my brother in law now. she didn't think he was needy or feline. she thought he was really sweet and romantic and he is such a caring nice guy not like the other douchebags. if she really likes you then she will love everything you do and its never needy or feminine. she didnt find him pathetic. thanks I dont believe im overly feminine, ive just never been into the "player" thing or one night stands, and wanted a relationship where I genuinely cared about her, which i do with her and really wanted to make her feel loved and like the luckiest girl in the world, i know she did really like me, i just hope she still does
spiderowl Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 It sounds like the girl has been nice to you, likes you but is not in love with you, but you have been overwhelming her. The problem with the things that you have been doing is that while it can seem to you you want to make something special for her, in fact you are forcing it on her. She has no choice in whether or not you turn up and impose whatever you think is a nice, romantic event on her. That kind of thing can be scary and especially if you are unsure about the guy. Making decisions without including her is controlling. Turning up unannounced without invitation is stalkerish. Deciding to apply to go somewhere with her without telling her is definitely over the top. It is no wonder her mother is getting anxious and making it clear to you to back off. I don't know if this is redeemable. If this girl decides you were just being over-enthusiastic and she still likes you, then it might turn out OK in the long run as long as you back off. However, what you have done is too much and borderline creepy (sorry, but it is). You need to back off and not do anything without her consent. If she's not available to talk to you, then do not make extra efforts to communicate with her. Her not being available for a patch, does not mean you should be finding ways round that. She has put a barrier in the way for a reason! It could be if you back off, just respond when she contacts you, and generally stay in touch sporadically and casually, then she may feel safer being in touch with you and may even invite you back into her life again. But it must be by invitation not by your persistence, inventiveness and attempts at romance. You have been too controlling and invasive and you really need to understand that and learn from this experience. 2
Author dp22 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) It sounds like the girl has been nice to you, likes you but is not in love with you, but you have been overwhelming her. The problem with the things that you have been doing is that while it can seem to you you want to make something special for her, in fact you are forcing it on her. She has no choice in whether or not you turn up and impose whatever you think is a nice, romantic event on her. That kind of thing can be scary and especially if you are unsure about the guy. Making decisions without including her is controlling. Turning up unannounced without invitation is stalkerish. Deciding to apply to go somewhere with her without telling her is definitely over the top. It is no wonder her mother is getting anxious and making it clear to you to back off. I don't know if this is redeemable. If this girl decides you were just being over-enthusiastic and she still likes you, then it might turn out OK in the long run as long as you back off. However, what you have done is too much and borderline creepy (sorry, but it is). You need to back off and not do anything without her consent. If she's not available to talk to you, then do not make extra efforts to communicate with her. Her not being available for a patch, does not mean you should be finding ways round that. She has put a barrier in the way for a reason! It could be if you back off, just respond when she contacts you, and generally stay in touch sporadically and casually, then she may feel safer being in touch with you and may even invite you back into her life again. But it must be by invitation not by your persistence, inventiveness and attempts at romance. You have been too controlling and invasive and you really need to understand that and learn from this experience. i do understand this and will back off now and told her i will respect what she decides, i believe we can work past it and i know my mistakes now, as for the work experience I did tell i was seriously thinking about applying and asked her multiple times if she would want to go together, she said she would love it and it would be like taking a piece of home with her. so its not like I didnt ask her and upto the 29th things were going really well, she loved her time at mine for christmas said she really liked my family etc i know i went overboard and it was borderline stalkerish to turn up unannounced and i am really sorry i did i just knew something was wrong and i thought face to face i could get her to talk to me, i spent a lot of time before each time i went deciding whether i should and i just thought if i left her it would be like abandoning her instead of being there for her also the "special things" ive done for her have all been on dates she wanted to go on besides christmas and her birthday, and it really has only been the last few days where the mum has stopped liking me because of what i did though she was so friendly when i came round i had know idea until Elisa told me. before that she thought i was a really lovely boy and was really happy with the hamper i gave the family and said i was really sweet to Elisa, ive just screwed up the last few days pretty bad Edited January 2, 2015 by dp22
spiderowl Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 It's good that you've realised you went a bit overboard. It sounds like you really care about this girl and that caring instinct led you to feel you were abandoning her when she was retreating a bit herself. I think the key thing here is for her to invite you - to whatever, to talk, spend time together, go places. Pressing her to invite you is not the same thing! I'm sure if you relax a bit and let her invite you to talk, whether by text, phone, or in person, you will have a chance of regaining her trust. It's all about personal boundaries really. Worth asking yourself, is this something I want to do for me or for her? If for her, why would she want this? Has she indicated she would love something like this? Has she invited me along? Who is driving the conversation, me or is it both of us? Maybe you have a strong protective instinct and perhaps it would help to channel that into something else for the moment, maybe some voluntary work somewhere? Hopefully, you two will find a balance where you are both comfortable with the natural ebb and flow of a relationship. 1
Author dp22 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 It's good that you've realised you went a bit overboard. It sounds like you really care about this girl and that caring instinct led you to feel you were abandoning her when she was retreating a bit herself. I think the key thing here is for her to invite you - to whatever, to talk, spend time together, go places. Pressing her to invite you is not the same thing! I'm sure if you relax a bit and let her invite you to talk, whether by text, phone, or in person, you will have a chance of regaining her trust. It's all about personal boundaries really. Worth asking yourself, is this something I want to do for me or for her? If for her, why would she want this? Has she indicated she would love something like this? Has she invited me along? Who is driving the conversation, me or is it both of us? Maybe you have a strong protective instinct and perhaps it would help to channel that into something else for the moment, maybe some voluntary work somewhere? Hopefully, you two will find a balance where you are both comfortable with the natural ebb and flow of a relationship. I sincerely hope so, I don't want to lose her but i already feel really bad for how i made her and her family feel i apologized for that told i think we can get past this and i know my mistakes but i will respect what you decide becuase i dont want to force something if you wernt happy or didnt have feelings for me, but i mean i know she did i just hope i didnt push them away completly in the last 4 days. it is very hard not to think about her and wonder if she believes me or misses me ive said all i can say to her i think an i just have to leave it to her now and im just trying to find ways to distract myself, though i have just been sleeping alot and just had my first meal since i left the batch.i have a corse back in my home town i a few days so i will be able to focus everything on that then. she should be enjoying herself with her family which i hope she is but at the same time if she is enjoying herself alot it might put in her familys mind how much hapier she is with out me, but then who doesnt enjoy theselves on holiday at a beach, idk probably over thinking stuff now and its out of my hands whatever i think
Author dp22 Posted January 3, 2015 Author Posted January 3, 2015 well shes just said "its okay, just stop worrying about it." and we had a light convo, I mean does this mean were ok as in shes still my girlfriend? im not going to try to keep the convo going too much and try to show her im going to give her the space she needs
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