White guys / Asian women

[JuneJulySeptember]

As usual, attraction comes down to not settling for less than what you can get.

 

If I were to be completely honest with myself, I'm probably most attracted to medium height white women with pretty faces, with big boobs and big behinds, with good fit waists between the ages of 19 and 32.

 

If I limited myself to that, then I would without any shred of doubt, be leaving this world a virgin, no matter when that day was.

[Mount]

I have to lay the fact here, although it is hard to hear - the truth is, all the news or people all know that White men lives or works in Asia are losers (White Trash), as per all people saying or told them. This is excluding corporate expat. in Asia.

 

Because people in Asia all think because those guys could not find job, do not have money, or are deadbeats thus no GF in their home countries, that is why they wanted to try luck in Asia.

 

Before Asian women may have curiousity of white men, but now they know well what brings those "losers" to Asian countries.

[Gloria25]

Im cool with it.

In a few years he will be dating a latina or black chic like me.

White men/black women is one of the fastest interracial pairings.

 

There are many of the same bennies-like black women looking younger and some of us very pettite.

 

I imagine tgat white men generally treat them better than men of their ethnicity particularly if the woman is fob from Korea, Vietnam, etc.

 

Ok, I don't want to offend anyone...and mind you, I'm Black by race, Hispanic by ethnicity, and I have a "dash" of white.

 

I mean, as a kid I had blonde, red, brown hair that turned black. I still have blonde hair in certain places and my hair will turn somewhat brown if I'm exposed to the sun for prolonged periods...lol. I also get a lovely tan and rarely burn.

 

Anywho, I think some Caucasian guys don't like a "perceived" "attitude" of certain Black women. I have siblings who are Black and they said they will not date Black women cuz they don't wanna deal with certain "perceived" characteristics.

 

So, I think that's why Caucasian guys would probably go for an Asian woman before a Latina or Black woman. There's "perceptions" out there. I'm not saying they're true or not cuz I don't want to offend anyone here.

 

I've always dated Caucasian guys. I kinda think it's cuz my dad - while the Hispanic one - was blacker than black. And, my dad was a jerk. Shoot, even my dad preferred lighter and non-Black women (look at my mum and his past women). But, my dad had nothing but bad things to say about anything that wasn't "pure" Black (go figure, he gets with lighter/mixed/non-Black women and has mixed kids then talks about how much he hates certain races). My dad called a lot of people "half-breeds". He also favored my sister who came out "darker" than my other sister and I.

 

I've also dated Hispanic guys, but mostly with European/Caucasian features. I also believe that on top of not being attracted to non-Caucasian guys, I don't get certain people/groups. I mean, there's differences in cultures, mindsets of certain races and cultures that I "perceive" and that not make me attracted to them and I don't want that in my home. I mean, all this recording of people saying things in their home/private moments/etc. Well, if anyone heard how I talk with my family about certain things, I'd probably be "outed" to.

 

I think some ethnic women gravitate towards Caucasian guys cuz they think they won't have to deal with the "perceived" womanizing and attitudes of males of certain races/ethnicities/cultures.

 

But, at the same time, I've seen how many of these women have the Caucasian guy as "o'l faithful" while they play the field and get boinked by ethnic guys. I've seen this with several neighbors, co-workers, friends of friends etc. This Caucasian guy has a black wife, and she is just nasty. She tried to hit on one of my siblings, I've seen her at the gym, and her children (even the toddler) spew words about genitals, sex, etc and carry it out. Her "husband" just stays at home and drinks himself into oblivion while she runs the streets. I've seen this over the years, over and over.

 

I think my 6 yr guy and I worked out so well cuz he, like me, was mixed. His dad was a Caucasian soldier, his mum was Black/Hispanic. He also lived in the same state I grew up in the US, and the country we were from, so it was cool. We both spoke/read/wrote English and Spanish and liked similar music/tastes/etc. He had like reddish hair with beautiful eyes....lol. I think that's why we lasted so long. I haven't met someone like him since.

 

And, like the thread I posted yesterday, I think that's why I'm having trouble dating. I think Caucasian guys can't relate to a woman like me that has a lot of "mixed" things going on for her. They may see me doing certain things as "smothering" or "submissive" or "trying too hard"...They may also not feel comfortable with it and not trust it.

Edited December 30, 2014 by Gloria25

[BeholdtheMan]

The days of the blue-eyed blond haired Charisma Man are long gone.

 

...or so you say. I haven't visited in a while. Can't really just take your word for it, but let me get this straight. When you first went, "Charisma Man" was still around wasn't he...by your own admission. Is that why you are so bitter toward Western women, because Japanese women were more receptive to you 10 years ago?

 

I expected respsonses like yours. Guess what? I don't give a ****.

You do give a lot of sh*t...bullsh*t

 

You're claim that there are hardly any "feminine", beautiful Western women is absolutely false

 

Less competition...more and more Western men will abandon their home countries for Asia and you can have the pick of the litter of the Western women we leave behind.

 

I have news for you buddy...those Western men who abandon Western countries because of sexual frustration at home are not my competition and never have been.

[fallenheart]

People believe what they want and have already made up their minds so I'm not gonna bother arguing. And I genuinely don't care what anyone says, cause I LOVE living in Japan.

 

Most of the vitriol I've seen online about the white man/Asian girl thing comes from American women. Either fat American women that are jealous of the attention that slim Asian women get, or from Americanized Asian women calling all white guys disgusting "pigs" with a "fetish."

 

Someone even used the word fetish in this thread.

 

If a guy likes blondes or redheads or Latinas, that's a "preference." If he likes Asian girls, it's a "fetish."

 

It's not worth arguing about. You guys can type away and fill this thread with 100 pages of nonsense but it won't affect me or my life.

 

Living in Japan makes me a "loser" and all white guys that come to Asia to live and work are "losers" cause they couldn't make it back in their own countries? If that makes you feel better...go on believing it. I think it takes balls to up and leave and make a life for yourself on the other side of the planet, far away from your family and friends and everything you ever knew. It's an adventure. And it's not easy either. You have to work hard and adapt. Every year I get to see the cherry blossoms in spring. In winter I can see Mt. Fuji in the distance every day. And Tokyo? The mot incredible city on the planet.

 

I had lunch at this amazing restaurant the other day. Owned and operated by a family from Nepal. Here in Japan. They came here, learned the language, and are now thriving in a country and culture the complete opposite of their own. I think that takes serious guts.

 

I live here because it was my choice. It works for me. I'm not saying it would work for everyone, but I have found my niche. And as an added bonus, I am surrounded by the most beautiful women on the planet.

 

So like I said before...you can call me a loser, call me a pig, claim the only reason I like Asian girls is cause I "struck out with REAL women" etc etc etc. Don't care. Your opinions do not matter. I knew what I wanted in life and I went for it.

[BeholdtheMan]

So like I said before...you can call me a loser, call me a pig, claim the only reason I like Asian girls is cause I "struck out with REAL women" etc etc etc. Don't care. Your opinions do not matter. I knew what I wanted in life and I went for it.

 

Good for you...

 

I'm pointing out a simple truth. If you can't attract a quality woman in the West, then in all likelihood...you're not considered a quality man in the West. Obviously, you did strike out...with Western women. However, no one is saying Western women are the only "real" women. Congratulations on your success with Japanese women, who are just as real

 

Labelling Western women as "women [who] can pretty much pass for guys these days with the way they curse, drink, yell, etc." (these are your own words) is a classic example of sour grapes. You didn't get to eat them so they must be rotten.

 

Obviously, attractive Western women weren't very receptive to you...but maybe you should look in the mirror before claiming that Western women are universally ill-mannered and unattractive.

 

In Japan, I had a few Japanese male friends who dated or wanted to date Western women. They'd go on about how they thought Western women were incredibly open-minded compared to Japanese women, adventurous, direct and to the point...and how they weren't as demanding as Japanese women. Grass is greener

Edited December 31, 2014 by BeholdtheMan

[fallenheart]

Here's a "simple truth" for you....I've dated plenty of Western women. For years. They simply can't compare to Japanese girls, not even close. I returned to America after being in Japan for a few years and was shocked by the lack of femininity by the women I encountered. So I got back on a plane to the country where I'm happier. Those are my own personal experiences...why is that a problem for you?

 

You could show me the most quality woman in the west (bolded just like you like it) and I'd still pass her up to pursue an average Japanese woman.

 

Cause that's what I PREFER. It has nothing to do with "striking out."

 

Do you find other men sexually attractive? Can you not attract a quality man? Did you "strike out" with all the quality men so you had to settle for women? An insulting notion isn't it?

 

You sure are making an awful lot of assumptions about me, even after I've spelled it out pretty clearly.

 

And since you missed it the first two times, I'll go ahead and bold it for you since you seem to like that: YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT ME DON'T MATTER.

 

I know exactly who I am and I know that I AM a quality man. I know exactly what I want, and some butthurt keyboard jockey is never going to change that.

[DKT3]

You like who you like. Its really that simple. I don't really think its much thought in it. Growing up is SoCal as a young black man I never once thought "hey I think I'll marry a tall white, brown haired gal with green eyes from Cardiff Wales" but I did.

 

You like who you like.

[JuneJulySeptember]

I think race is just such a touchy subject given actual racism that many people are just PC-blinded to the notion that preference for race is like preference for any other combination of aesthetic features, so people get extra bent out of shape over it. I mean can you imagine a pouty thread on why do men prefer blonds? It would be a very silly thread full of responses saying that they just do, or either they don't care or that they actually prefer brunette/red/raven/whatever. I can almost guarantee that nobody would find it super offensive or start theorizing that brunettes have a harder time finding love/sex lol.

 

Can you imagine a man passing up a woman who was otherwise good or even potentially a good life partner because she was a brunette?

 

You don't think that's totally idiotic? I do.

 

Never mind the fact that she can uh, dye her hair. It's not offensive, it's just idiotic.

 

The reason you don't see threads about women complaining is because most men are not that idiotic. I have never met a man who excludes via hair color in my life. Never.

Edited December 31, 2014 by JuneJulySeptember

[Woggle]

When people are not happy with the options at home many tend to look for greener grass. It's human nature.

[gaius]

I can't figure it out either morten. Maybe it's just become fashionable in a way, since they're rarer so it's kind of a status thing. The one guy I know who's a big fan is very susceptible to the whims of other people. =/ Just changed his New Years plans based soley on what some other guy told him. He also likes anime.

 

Gloria, not every white guy is like that. I grew up in an Italian atmosphere and black women fit that mold way better than passive Asians. I probably run across 10 black women I like for every Asian. And I'm not douchey enough to jump on that bandwagon.

[BeholdtheMan]

Here's a "simple truth" for you....I've dated plenty of Western women.

 

Sure...

 

You were this total stud back in your home country. Physically attractive women in your home country were highly receptive to your advances...that's why you have nothing but bad things to say about the women in your home country, right?

 

No one's buying your BS

 

For years. They simply can't compare to Japanese girls, not even close. I returned to America after being in Japan for a few years and was shocked by the lack of femininity by the women I encountered.

 

What does "feminine" mean to you? Docile and submissive? There are no feminine women in the West? Bullsh*t

 

You could show me the most quality woman in the west (bolded just like you like it) and I'd still pass her up to pursue an average Japanese woman.

 

Whatever floats your boat. If you think a Japanese plain jane is inherently superior to a Western stunner merely because the former is Japanese and the latter is Western...I think you're out of your mind.

 

Cause that's what I PREFER. It has nothing to do with "striking out."

 

Good for you...why do you feel the need to bash Western women? You're this stud who could pull any woman regardless of her background right? Why the negativity toward Western women?

 

Is it because you have a harder time pulling Western women? Note that I didn't say you can't attract Western women. It's probably just harder for you.

 

Nothing else explains your gushing adulation for Japanese women and your vitriol for Western women. If you were equally successful with both groups but simply prefer one to the other, you wouldn't be bashing one group.

 

Do you find other men sexually attractive? Can you not attract a quality man? Did you "strike out" with all the quality men so you had to settle for women? An insulting notion isn't it?

I'm heterosexual. I'm not attracted to men.

 

You're heterosexual as well, but you're dismissing a massive segment of the female population ("Western women") as universally unattractive. That tells me you're irrational (to put it mildly)

 

You sure are making an awful lot of assumptions about me

Are they getting to you because they're accurate?

 

Men who are successful with women regardless of the women's racial/cultural background generally don't feel the need to bash women of any background

 

If you worship Japanese women and bash Western women, that tells me you weren't equally successful with both groups of women.

 

And since you missed it the first two times, I'll go ahead and bold it for you since you seem to like that: YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT ME DON'T MATTER.

 

It matters enough for you to reply

 

I know exactly who I am and I know that I AM a quality man. I know exactly what I want, and some butthurt keyboard jockey is never going to change that.

 

A confident man who enjoys success with all women doesn't make stupid negative generalizations about a group of women as huge and diverse as "Western women".

 

A man prone to making excuses who "strikes out" with a certain group of women usually lashes out at that group of women instead of raising his own game.

[Eddy Street]

Why would you ask? Might as well ask what is it with people who wear contacts and people who wear glasses. They date each-other even more often you know.

[Rejected Rosebud]

I can understand a white guy being attracted only to Asian women, you like what you like! I see a kind of beauty in Asian people that is unique to them. But a guy going on and on about how this is because of the deficits in "western women" seems to have a problem within himself!! That's like if you said you only like blondes because brunettes are atrocious!!

[40 Fonzarelli]

Some white guys prefer someone who is educated, which they find in lots of Asian girls. Also, some people just prefer a different culture from their own. To make things easier, Asian women worship white guys so it works out easily for both parties.

[Eddy Street]

I think a lot of it comes down to white guys not being able to find somebody from their own culture, as a lot of these Asian women barely speak English and are culturally alien to the men they date. An example is my friend from high school who married a Vietnamese girl. He basically brought here over here and taught her English. He always had issues attracting American women, be they "white" or Hispanic or black or even American Asian women. Another example is my next door neighbor, a woman from Kazakhstan who was brought over to America by an Irish-American dude, who basically payed for her education also taught her English and helped out her family (made it possible for them to emigrate to the US), then she left him. For a lot of these men, it's a last resort. It's sort of sad really...

[JuneJulySeptember]

I think a lot of it comes down to white guys not being able to find somebody from their own culture, as a lot of these Asian women barely speak English and are culturally alien to the men they date. An example is my friend from high school who married a Vietnamese girl. He basically brought here over here and taught her English. He always had issues attracting American women, be they "white" or Hispanic or black or even American Asian women. Another example is my next door neighbor, a woman from Kazakhstan who was brought over to America by an Irish-American dude, who basically payed for her education also taught her English and helped out her family (made it possible for them to emigrate to the US), then she left him. For a lot of these men, it's a last resort. It's sort of sad really...

 

Somewhat true.

 

What I have found is that some men can usually get a better bargain with a foreign woman. A lot of them are quite intelligent and educated. English is virtually a second 1st language in a lot of places. A US female citizen with the same intelligence, education, and looks would be much harder to land. There's a lot of reasons foreign women are more laid back than US women. But I have found foreign women are just less picky, not sure why? Maybe because being an American man is a plus to them? Maybe because Asian/Indian/Latina women from the US prefer white guys, but those women from other countries are more accepting of their own men?

 

Where does that leave the US women who are left without dancing partners? I don't know.

Edited January 6, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember

[Danda]

I wonder if there is also an element of flattery involved, like if someone perceives you as exotic-erotic if there is a specific flavor to that form of being smitten. Or something.

 

I have noticed that often with interracial couples, there seems to be blatantly-openly higher levels of playful adoration going on. Of course special exceptions for both interracial couples and same-race couples, but it's just something I've picked up on mildly from time to time.

 

I know that when I get pursued by white men, I can tell that they see me as plain and sort of dull, like just another run-of-the-mill female that they are used to. I have to be special in some way to them to get any more enthusiasm.

 

Whereas with men of other races who have approached/pursued me, it was always very different. Even though I didn't find them attractive, the attention did feel different in a very positive way. I felt inherently beautiful (which I believe is what all women should feel, but in our cultures just don't anymore) when perceived through their eyes, like they appreciated my looks in a way that most of my own race don't. I guess it was the feeling of being automatically desirable instead of automatically "meh". Their flirtations were also rather bold and just.. happy? Like they were excited to be speaking with me.

 

In any case even it's not 'right' of me to say it, I definitely did notice that with men to whom I would be 'exotic' the attention was always very different. I felt more appreciated just inherently as a woman, and also by comparison like most men of my own race don't like me as much or something. It was peculiar, for sure.

 

So I wonder if interracial couples often have that added feeling to their courting and relationships, due to the exotic psychological factor? Like in the examples of white men who are really into Asian, Latina or African American women, do those women also feel a little extra something positive? Do men of any race feel an extra positive element in a similar way, if say a woman had a special 'thing' for (race) men?

[orangetree]

"Asian women are the hottest in the world"

 

"Latinas are so hot"

 

 

I find it so ridiculous when people seriously think that one are is hotter than the other. There are good-looking people in every race, White, Black, Asian, Latin, Mixed, it doesn't matter. In the end, it's just personal preference. I for example prefer darker men (Hispanic/Latin), but that doesn't mean I would ever say 'Latin men are the hottest guys in the world' because it's just MY personal preference. For some guys the reason could be though that Asian women are considered to be submissive, even though that's not necessarily true.

 

I'm a white girl and I live in a Latin country. Guys here are very much into me because here I'm exotic. If I was an Asian or Latin girl in let's say Denmark I guess guys would also be very much into me (assuming that I was a pretty Asian or Latin girl of course ).

 

And by the way, I've never heard that white men are particularly into Asian girls.

[EgoJoe]

I've been dating a Chinese Woman. It has less to do with what she is and more to do with who and how she is.

 

 

I'm a white male. I've only ever seriously dated white girls before. She pursues me and I like how candid she is.

[lino]

Where I originally come from there were no/very, very few Asian people or really any migrants at all but since my teens I've lived in 2 larger cities with a very high and constantly growing East Asian migrant population (Sydney & Melbourne).

 

This is what I've noticed from the white Aussie man/ East Asian woman relationship dynamic and I've seen and known many of them.

 

1. The Aussie men are usually either younger, single/never married guys who are overlooked by Anglo Australian women or older Aussie men who have gone through a really tough marriage and divorce to an Anglo Australian woman.

 

2. The Aussie men are commonly employed in a very important and well paying but un cool & low status professional sector like I.T, computer/software engineering, etc and would be the guys many would refer to as geeks.

 

3. The Aussie men are usually very decent, law abiding and easy going guys and seen as whimpy, un confident, un aggressive men by their Australian female counterparts.

 

4. The East Asian women in question are usually much more agreeable, less bitchy, less likely to be drinking, drug taking and partying a lot and this aligns more closely to the above mentioned guys who are usually the same way ( introverts, un aggressive, non partying, non drinking/drug taking types).

 

5. The East Asian women in question aren't very Australianized... Hence why they're not turned off by the above described men.

Australianized East Asian women (ie born/grown up here) are heavily attracted to the same men all other women here are and not the above described guys.

 

6. The East Asian women in question are usually either Chinese or South Korean and a handful of them might be from S.E Asia somewhere but they are less common.

 

I myself am not particularly attracted to East Asian women with the exception of Japanese girls but we don't have many of them here.

[JuneJulySeptember]

 

And by the way, I've never heard that white men are particularly into Asian girls.

 

They aren't. It's just because white men like Asian women at a much higher rate than they like black women or that white women like Asian men, so it seems like a common fetish.

 

But by and large, people stick to their own.

 

97% of people marry within their race. The amount of white men who marry Asian women is still such a very, very miniscule %.

 

It's all based on looks too, not racism. White women would be on top of Keanu Reeves like nobody's business. But he's Asian. White women like Hispanic men at a much higher rate because *tada* they look white.

 

I do like women of all races, but I have often thought to myself "Eh, what's the point?" I'm killing my already low odds.

Edited January 7, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember

[lino]

They aren't. It's just because white men like Asian women at a much higher rate than they like black women or that white women like Asian men, so it seems like a common fetish.

 

Definitely true.

Other than the above guys I mentioned, I don't know any men who specifically target East Asian women.

 

Can't comment on black people of African origins as we hardly have any of them here.

[orangetree]

Agree. And to be honest, what woman would like a man who has a fetish with her race? I certainly wouldn't date a guy who goes only after white blonde chicks like me. That's kinda creepy.

[JuneJulySeptember]

Definitely true.

Other than the above guys I mentioned, I don't know any men who specifically target East Asian women.

 

Can't comment on black people of African origins as we hardly have any of them here.

 

Don't you think that's sad?

 

I mean, if you talked on the phone with me for 5 hours, you wouldn't be able to tell what race I was.

 

But as soon as you (not YOU, but some woman, you know what I mean) saw me, she'd nix me because she wasn't attracted to that race. Of course, It'd be the same if I was white and ugly, which I think is also equally sad.

 

And I know "That's just the way it is". But it's still sad.

Edited January 7, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember