feminists driving men away...video

[elaine567]

Thing is, you were not talking finances, you were talking about pussyfing men as the only fair way.

 

If mere equality, and I reiterate EQUALITY, is seen as pussyfying men, then no wonder many feminists turn hardcore...

 

That's oppression, subjugation, persecution, abuse of power, abuse of a human being, purposeful cruelty, denial of rights, nature, freedom and self.You're talking about breaking the mind, nature and spirit of human beings.

 

That is exactly what has happened to women down the ages and contines to happen to women today.

To suggest that feminism and pursuit of equality, and I reiterate EQUALITY, is doing that to men, is absurd in the extreme.

[Snaggletooth]

I think this thread just stepped through the looking glass. Time to say goodnight.

[hotpotato]

after men got tired of being put in the wrong by women who were too critical over diddly-squat pretty much, the Sexodus happened...

 

 

some1 will tell me i am wrong and men are terrible, no, i see plenty nice guys on loveshack

 

are we women just glorified nags these days?

 

see the film, see what you think

 

Hmm...

 

Men have always dabbled in porn and substance abuse.

Saying feminism drives men to porn is silly. Plenty of guys will say they use porn and it has nothing to do with their partner. Which is it?

 

That being said, some men really do need porn and sex dolls. They want a woman who is happy and grateful to have a man, any man, and make no demands on him.

 

 

Virtual reality is relatively new. People are turning to vr because of tech advances.

[SomeDude16]

 

That is exactly what has happened to women down the ages and contines to happen to women today.

To suggest that feminism and pursuit of equality, and I reiterate EQUALITY, is doing that to men, is absurd in the extreme.

 

Ehhh, feminism not only challenges the traditional roles of females, it also challenges the traditional roles of males, i.e. A conflict of interest...

[DukeNukem47]

I don't see why any of this is so bad. Even if you are looking for a partner, you can find a decent woman. It will just take a lot of work.

 

One of the things that I've noticed among many women is that they have a veneer of over-confidence that is nothing more than a cover for low self-esteem. This makes many of them very easy to manipulate.

 

For example, there is a woman that I am seeing currently. She is actually pretty attractive and has a high powered job. But, after getting to know her, I noticed that it's all BS and that she actually has low self-esteem. She has a very good job in my current field. I started sleeping with her and she hooked me up with a very high paying job. I have not committed to her and I date other women.

 

I feel that, in the past, I would not have been able to get away with something like this. But I am in today's world.

 

Personally, I don't plan on ever getting married. Luckily, evolving times brings with it advancing technology. Straight male surrogacy has increased. For me, having children is way more important than having a wife. So I will likely go down the surrogacy route when I have my ducts in a row.

 

But marriage? No way.

[trippi1432]

I don't consider myself a "radical" feminist, I feel that women should advance and get equal pay as well as deliver the same results as their male counter-parts. If there is an area of science or other fields that not many women have broken in to, they should go for it....but it doesn't have to be a war.

 

 

I think where the radical comes in is when being put on the spot to defend themselves on the topic of feminism. I do think there is some merit to the OP's video of how today's radical feminism is affecting today's modern male. However, having said this, I do not think it is JUST feminism that is affecting young men of today and their views on marriage. Other issues come into play in this thinking, economic issues, the lack of job security in these times, the high rate of divorce and the influx of single-parent families.

 

 

My son will be 20 soon, he has no desire to get married or even start a family until he is more financially secure and he's noted a lot of those reasons above. So, it leads me to believe that men (and women) are looking to fulfill their ambitions prior to settling down. To me, (having become a mom at 18), I think that is smart for all genders. In that regard, I've probably been influential on both my daughter and my son to wait on starting families....there is that mother influence (lesson learned or feministic?).

 

 

As to mom's influencing their daughter's to become feminists....my father was my biggest influence....as was my grandfather. Go figure that one out, a male influence in the 60's - 80's (as this included my dad's sisters too). My grandfather made sure both of his daughter's went to college...my father did not attend. My father influenced me to succeed in everything I did, from being a girly-girl to getting my next promotion in my career.

 

 

Actually just sitting here looking at my own daughter's Facebook Year in Review....Quote "I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways you are not." She's not feminist, she has no reason to compete with men, she has her own goals in life and the views on feminism are just one more mountain to climb. Personally me, I hated the Pantene and Always commercials....we don't have to recreate what generations before us have already conquered. And as a mom to both a boy and a girl....I want them both to have that confidence in themselves. That's NOT feminism, At the end of the day, I'm just thankful to take my bra off....if I burned it, I'd have to pay VS another $60 to pay their models for me.

[elaine567]

I don't consider myself a "radical" feminist, I feel that women should advance and get equal pay as well as deliver the same results as their male counter-parts. If there is an area of science or other fields that not many women have broken in to, they should go for it....but it doesn't have to be a war.

 

She's not feminist, she has no reason to compete with men, she has her own goals in life and the views on feminism are just one more mountain to climb. ... And as a mom to both a boy and a girl....I want them both to have that confidence in themselves. That's NOT feminism...

 

OK, your daughter doesn't need to think about feminism, but without feminism she would not have her career and she would be midway into her second pregnancy of about nine to fifteen different pregnancies in her lifetime.

So whilst you can sit back contentedly and complacently, your son will probably still have the capacity to make far more money and be more successful in his career than your daughter ever will, and that is why feminism still has a long way to go to achieve true equality.

[Lady2163]

This has been an interesting read.

 

I'm closer to 50 than to 40. In my life I've been paid equally and been paid less because I'm female. I had a husband who thought I should do 99% of the housework even though I worked full time and went to school full time. He thought his workday was done when he walked in the door.

 

I don't hate men, I dearly love men. But I hate grown men who act like little boys. I'm intolerant and a shrew in that regard.

 

You know what? I don't like doing housework. I don't like taking the garbage out. But I do it. I don't leave it for the next person to take care of. Who is it youre screwing over when you leave the toilet paper empty? Why, the person you married and are suppose to love and cherish.

 

Toilet paper is just a minor example, but look at all the things men and women both do in a relationship that are minor (or major) sabotages to the other person.

 

I make over $100K, which may sound like a pittance for someone living in a metropolis or large urban area, but for me I'm in a 2500 square foot house on a little under half an acre. I have no debt other than a mortgage. My hobbies are not expensive. I do have an addiction, Im an on again, off again smoker. I don't have to check my bank accounts on any and all purchases under $5000. So, I'm not rich, but I bet I'm better off than a helluva lot of people on here.

 

And even though I'm slightly insatiable and very exuberant in the bedroom, make decent money, keep a clean house, fairly intelligent (little out of touch on current events lately), decent cook and am kind and loyal, I bet most people on here wouldn't give me a second look.

 

I'm a size 18. Well, maybe a 16, but I'm one step bigger than average/regular sizes. I'm not sloppy fat, but baby got back. I love to play racquetball, but haven't been able to find anyone to play in 18 months. Racquetball is a good workout, but wicked hard on the body.

 

I'm also no longer willing to settle and not going to tolerate game playing.

 

So, I don't fear the word feminist.

[DukeNukem47]

OK, your daughter doesn't need to think about feminism, but without feminism she would not have her career and she would be midway into her second pregnancy of about nine to fifteen different pregnancies in her lifetime.

So whilst you can sit back contentedly and complacently, your son will probably still have the capacity to make far more money and be more successful in his career than your daughter ever will, and that is why feminism still has a long way to go to achieve true equality.

 

This is feminist propaganda. Women are capable of making just as much as men. The reason they sometimes don't is because they leave the workforce to raise children (well, the good ones do).

 

Feminism, while beneficial in many ways (as I stated above), is evil and part of the reason why our society is in significant decline.

[Mangina]

OK, your daughter doesn't need to think about feminism, but without feminism she would not have her career and she would be midway into her second pregnancy of about nine to fifteen different pregnancies in her lifetime.

So whilst you can sit back contentedly and complacently, your son will probably still have the capacity to make far more money and be more successful in his career than your daughter ever will, and that is why feminism still has a long way to go to achieve true equality.

 

We have equality and there are legitimate reasons for the .22 wage gap. See the link I posted also .22 is not far more. You have been brainwashed

[trippi1432]

OK, your daughter doesn't need to think about feminism, but without feminism she would not have her career and she would be midway into her second pregnancy of about nine to fifteen different pregnancies in her lifetime.

So whilst you can sit back contentedly and complacently, your son will probably still have the capacity to make far more money and be more successful in his career than your daughter ever will, and that is why feminism still has a long way to go to achieve true equality.

 

 

Those are bold assumptions....and I'm sorry presumptuous. I've had a career that pulls six figures for a decade now...how would my 27 year old not have that right? She is making half my salary now...and she's not been pregnant. She and I both believe a woman's body is hers...yes...but nine to fifteen different pregnancies....WTF?? Do you think that all women who believe in equal rights have abortions as birth control? My 27 year old daughter has never been pregnant.

 

 

My son has absolutely no ambition to be equal to a woman or to hold down a job.....however that is not feminism.....that is entitlement.

 

 

And Elaine....don't ever think me contended or complacent in my place in society...you would be much misguided.

[Mangina]

Those are bold assumptions....and I'm sorry presumptuous. I've had a career that pulls six figures for a decade now...how would my 27 year old not have that right? She is making half my salary now...and she's not been pregnant. She and I both believe a woman's body is hers...yes...but nine to fifteen different pregnancies....WTF?? Do you think that all women who believe in equal rights have abortions as birth control? My 27 year old daughter has never been pregnant.

 

 

My son has absolutely no ambition to be equal to a woman or to hold down a job.....however that is not feminism.....that is entitlement.

 

 

And Elaine....don't ever think me contended or complacent in my place in society...you would be much misguided.

 

They teach us this in college and through the media. I used to believe the same thing. It is the whole victim thing.

[Robert Z]

This is feminist propaganda. Women are capable of making just as much as men. The reason they sometimes don't is because they leave the workforce to raise children (well, the good ones do).

 

Feminism, while beneficial in many ways (as I stated above), is evil and part of the reason why our society is in significant decline.

 

 

Between the years 1987 and 2012, the number or working women who make more than their husbands [when they both work] has risen from 17.9% to 29%

Wives who earn more than their husbands

[trippi1432]

They teach us this in college and through the media. I used to believe the same thing. It is the whole victim thing.

 

 

Entitlement is not taught through media or college.....don't get me wrong.

[Lady2163]

Between the years 1987 and 2012, the number or working women who make more than their husbands [when they both work] has risen from 17.9% to 29%

Wives who earn more than their husbands

 

So, do I read that correctly, 71% of husbands make more than their Wives?

 

And....what about single men and single women I the same jobs?

[Mangina]

Entitlement is not taught through media or college.....don't get me wrong.

 

No I am speaking of the wage gap and the discrimination she is talking about. I used to be a feminist

[trippi1432]

No I am speaking of the wage gap and the discrimination she is talking about. I used to be a feminist

 

 

Understood...TY

[Robert Z]

Has anyone seen the commercial for the Our Time dating service?

 

 

It begins with a rather attractive woman about my age talking, My first impulse was that I would be interested in someone like her. But then she starts to talk with a definite tone and attitude: "It is so nice to find a place when men are actually looking for women their own age"

 

 

Whoops, I take it back. I rather see escorts. That was all that it took for me to know that she isn't worth wasting my time. She has an attitude about men and she couldn't hide it for five seconds.

 

 

And what do we see next? A man about my age who got all sort of winks right away and had a great experience... And, OMG, he is ACTUALLY wearing a sweater! It might as well be a Hallmark commercial.

 

 

That commercial is clearly targeted at women my age and only supports my inclination to think that most women my age have been too brainwashed to be worth my efforts. It is like having a dating service for older men that advertises women in bikinis. And they have those. They are called hookup sites.

 

 

Sell to the stereotype.

[trippi1432]

So, do I read that correctly, 71% of husbands make more than their Wives?

 

And....what about single men and single women I the same jobs?

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I think she asked this...............................got those stats?

[trippi1432]

Has anyone seen the commercial for the Our Time dating service?

 

 

It begins with a rather attractive woman about my age talking, My first impulse was that I would be interested in someone like her. But then she starts to talk with a definite tone and attitude: "It is so nice to find a place when men are actually looking for women their own age"

 

 

Whoops, I take it back. I rather see escorts. That was all that it took for me to know that she isn't worth wasting my time. She has an attitude about men and she couldn't hide it for five seconds.

 

 

And what do we see next? A man about my age who got all sort of winks right away and had a great experience... And, OMG, he is ACTUALLY wearing a sweater! It might as well be a Hallmark commercial.

 

 

That commercial is clearly targeted at women my age and only supports my inclination to think that most women my age have been too brainwashed to be worth my efforts. It is like having a dating service for older men that advertises women in bikinis. And they have those. They are called hookup sites.

 

 

Sell to the stereotype.

 

 

Does anyone care...keep on topic because now you are boring me.

[Robert Z]

Does anyone care...keep on topic because now you are boring me.

 

 

It is on topic. That is what you need to understand.

 

It is just another example of selling a bad and unrealistic attitude about men. That's probably why my post annoys you.

Edited December 27, 2014 by Robert Z

[trippi1432]

It is on topic. That is what you need to understand.

 

It is just another example of selling a bad and unrealistic attitude about men. That's probably why my post annoys you.

 

 

I'm sure it is if women are just a stereotype......

[Robert Z]

I'm sure it is if women are just a stereotype......

 

 

The point I am making is how men are being stereotyped and insulted as part of a commercial selling to women.

[trippi1432]

The point I am making is how men are being stereotyped and insulted as part of a commercial selling to women.

 

 

But Robert Z...what if today's commercialism of feminism is also stereotyping women??

[Robert Z]

But Robert Z...what if today's commercialism of feminism is also stereotyping women??

 

 

Perhaps, but companies do a lot of market research to determine what their target customers WANT to hear. They don't just make this stuff up. They do research to see what is going to resonate with their desired customers, So they made the determination that insulting men with the first sentence is how to sell to older women. So what does that tell you?