Tommy122 Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 Opposite of love is not hate its indifference. Can indifference turn to love? Say the female lost respect for the male because he lost alpha male qualities and became needy etc. Can he turn this around by going back to his normal confident self, can indifference turn to her wanting to be with you and change her mind and make her want you again?
KatZee Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 For me personally? No. Once I've hit that turning point of indifference, there's no turning it around. Once I lose respect, and I literally do not care either way? Done. I've gotten to that point with every single boyfriend I've had in my life, and I have yet to have that feeling turn back around into anything positive. I'm sure others are more forgiving and will give second chances, but as you get older you start to realize what you will and won't settle for and it becomes very easy to weed out ill-fitting partners. I had an ex who was VERY needy. Super insecure, clingy, needy. He was more of a woman than I was. He would just start crying out of no where and I was just SO turned off. There was absolutely no redemption in that situation. I literally was so turned off and so repulsed and repelled that the only feeling I had was "RUN. RUN NOW. GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE!"
todreaminblue Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 depends on the woman........i dont consider crying or showing emotion to be neediness...i would call it honesty......genuine even.......i dont expect guys to be stoic all the time...i am not stoic all the time.........as far as neediness goes its subjective..and showing heartfelt emotions such as crying etc is not neediness at all.....shows strength and honesty in my opinion........deb 1
Author Tommy122 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Posted December 16, 2014 depends on the woman........i dont consider crying or showing emotion to be neediness...i would call it honesty......genuine even.......i dont expect guys to be stoic all the time...i am not stoic all the time.........as far as neediness goes its subjective..and showing heartfelt emotions such as crying etc is not neediness at all.....shows strength and honesty in my opinion........deb i only had a thing with her for 6 weeks, and this is definitely more so of a response that relates to my situation, shes now seeing someone else and ive gone back to my normal self, alot of the girls flirt with me, i got with another girl infront of her so i guess u can say i got my manyliness back, hopefully i get a second chance with her
KatZee Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 depends on the woman........i dont consider crying or showing emotion to be neediness...i would call it honesty......genuine even.......i dont expect guys to be stoic all the time...i am not stoic all the time.........as far as neediness goes its subjective..and showing heartfelt emotions such as crying etc is not neediness at all.....shows strength and honesty in my opinion........deb Of course a guy should not be stoic. But when a guy is literally going, "I love you" every 15 seconds. Refuses to do anything but cling to you like a barnacle, erupts into tears when trying to have a conversation... I think there's a great difference between heart felt emotions (I've seen this too) and being super emotionally needy to the point of suffocation.
todreaminblue Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 i only had a thing with her for 6 weeks, and this is definitely more so of a response that relates to my situation, shes now seeing someone else and ive gone back to my normal self, alot of the girls flirt with me, i got with another girl infront of her so i guess u can say i got my manyliness back, hopefully i get a second chance with her maybe you will ...flirting with other girls and hooking up with another girl doesnt make you a man though......being honest and going after what you want in life makes a man out of you......not playing games...quote.....when i became a man i put away childish things... end quote....that to me from being less of a man and more a boy, includes playing games with other girl's emotions and hers.....and making her jealous or whatever or feel hurt...isnt manly.....its childish....and its a game...where the outcome you wish to achieve ...might not be the outcome you get.....if only you had been a man about it......be honest be upfront.....show her the true you....deb
Author Tommy122 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Posted December 16, 2014 maybe you will ...flirting with other girls and hooking up with another girl doesnt make you a man though......being honest and going after what you want in life makes a man out of you......not playing games...quote.....when i became a man i put away childish things... end quote....that to me from being less of a man and more a boy, includes playing games with other girl's emotions and hers.....and making her jealous or whatever or feel hurt...isnt manly.....its childish....and its a game...where the outcome you wish to achieve ...might not be the outcome you get.....if only you had been a man about it......be honest be upfront.....show her the true you....deb honestly i dont want to have to play games but i feel like i need to with her. She is one of the girls i always wanted, she treated me indifferently but still had faith lol..dumb i know. im only acting this way in hopes that she actually starts to give a **** instead of being indifferent and gives me a second chance. btw shes 18 im 23...if that makes a dif..
todreaminblue Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 honestly i dont want to have to play games but i feel like i need to with her. She is one of the girls i always wanted, she treated me indifferently but still had faith lol..dumb i know. im only acting this way in hopes that she actually starts to give a **** instead of being indifferent and gives me a second chance. btw shes 18 im 23...if that makes a dif.. she is very young and so are you....when i was 18 i dated older men.....because i cant stand immaturity in men....maybe be yourself and tell her how you feel.....maybe her indifference is her thinking you dont like her/...i dont know.....game playing makes me feel drained...i wish you well.....my advice stands.....i would go the honesty route if i were you...avoids missed chances.........deb
Author Tommy122 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 she is very young and so are you....when i was 18 i dated older men.....because i cant stand immaturity in men....maybe be yourself and tell her how you feel.....maybe her indifference is her thinking you dont like her/...i dont know.....game playing makes me feel drained...i wish you well.....my advice stands.....i would go the honesty route if i were you...avoids missed chances.........deb say if we only had a thing for 6 weeks but feelings where involved and sex, i then go overseas for a month, she sleeps with someone else and is now seeing him. She told me she wants to be friends for now, is this friendzoned or does she not even give a ****? Im still sticking to my original plan, but not sure if she was that interested, or if she will be interested enough to come back after this new guy doesnt work out (whos twice her age)
cif Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 It can happen. You have nothing to lose and if it happens, it happens. Let her initiate all contact. Live your life in the meantime. 1
Author Tommy122 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 It can happen. You have nothing to lose and if it happens, it happens. Let her initiate all contact. Live your life in the meantime. Awesome, im living life and she knows it. if and when she initiates, do i reject the first time? Im thinking if she says like, hey wanna catch up\ ill say either "yea lets go on a date" or "if you want to have some fun im down"
Rydo Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Definitely don't date her imo. You are too young to be concerned with one girl, have fun with other girls and forget her. If it happens again then cool but I wouldn't put too much hope into it happening again and if it does it won't last long.
Author Tommy122 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 Definitely don't date her imo. You are too young to be concerned with one girl, have fun with other girls and forget her. If it happens again then cool but I wouldn't put too much hope into it happening again and if it does it won't last long. Why dont you think it will last long?
Author Tommy122 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 Should I try again with her? She is the one who said she wants to keep this as friends for now, this was 3 months ago (after our 6 week thing).or do I continue doing my thing and hope she comes back?
Rydo Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 She slept with someone else when you were gone for a month. She clearly just wants to be an 18 year old so it wont last for that reason. You know where you stand so no you shouldn't try again.
Author Tommy122 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 She slept with someone else when you were gone for a month. She clearly just wants to be an 18 year old so it wont last for that reason. You know where you stand so no you shouldn't try again. Shes insecure if that helps. Currently with a guy who has money. .
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