ASG Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 But it isn't a turn off either. No, it isn't. Neither is it a turn on. It's literally nothing, in the grand scheme of trying to court someone. So after you do that, you end up with the same positive capital as you had before (as any positive capital you gain from it will go in the co-worker pool and not in the personal pool) So as far as grand gestures go, it's not very effective. That's all I'm saying! But by all means, carry on baking cakes! I'm sure everyone appreciates them!
ASG Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Nope, just checked in your other thread and you haven't responded. I take it as a no. Yes I have been in 5 long term relationships before. The longest one lasting 4 years. And yes there were things I wasn't happy about that I never talked to them about simply because I don't see what benefit could be derived from talking it over. She is her own person and I can't expect her to change. Here it is... I can't help but think something went horribly wrong after the last one ended...
serial muse Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Darren I hear that you're angry and that you're craving some sort of big empowering boost, but what I don't get is why women are the chosen target of that anger. You had a woman who was into you; she didn't hurt you in any way. In fact, you already hurt her. I understand that you've got health issues and life-threatening illness and that can make a person furious at the world. But why take that out on women in particular?
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 Because I am sick of being used as some emotional tampoon or counselor to give advice to women. Yeah believe it or not I get women coming to me for advice. I say go talk to your girlfriends for that. I am not here to be a counselor or give career advice or relationship advice or whatever and without even getting laid in the process? Come on now!
serial muse Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Because I am sick of being used as some emotional tampoon or counselor to give advice to women. Yeah believe it or not I get women coming to me for advice. I say go talk to your girlfriends for that. I am not here to be a counselor or give career advice or relationship advice or whatever and without even getting laid in the process? Come on now! But you rejected a woman who wanted more from you. So what do you really have to be angry about? This doesn't make any sense. 2
ASG Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Because I am sick of being used as some emotional tampoon or counselor to give advice to women. Yeah believe it or not I get women coming to me for advice. I say go talk to your girlfriends for that. I am not here to be a counselor or give career advice or relationship advice or whatever and without even getting laid in the process? Come on now! So you object to being friends with people? What it sounds like to is that you demand payment (getting laid) for your advice... Which is a bit of a poor attitude to have, frankly... But then... going by this thread, you have now decided that if the woman even wants to have sex with you, you will shut her down faster than you can say "shoes" and go NC. I'm sorry... but it makes no sense whatsoever!
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 But you rejected a woman who wanted more from you. So what do you really have to be angry about? This doesn't make any sense. If you are referring to my ex girlfriend the one I couldn't keep an erection with then yeah I was frustrated like I was being punished somehow. Not being able to orgasam with a woman or stay hard is my punishment. I never was able to orgasm in any past relationship. Then with the last one it got worse to where I couldn't stay hard long enough to get the condom on and get in her. So I am totally cursed and screwed. Maybe I committed a terrible sex crime in a past incarnation and so this is my punishment to only be confined to masturbation and porn as the only way to get off. So ultimately I end up demoted to the friend-zone for failure to stay hard.
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 So you object to being friends with people? What it sounds like to is that you demand payment (getting laid) for your advice... Which is a bit of a poor attitude to have, frankly... But then... going by this thread, you have now decided that if the woman even wants to have sex with you, you will shut her down faster than you can say "shoes" and go NC. I'm sorry... but it makes no sense whatsoever! That's not what I am saying. I don't have a problem having female friends as long as I don't develop feelings for them. So it isn't like the friendship starts out with me demanding payment. I have a few female friends I am not attracted to. I don't have a problem giving career or relationship advice. It is only when feelings start to develop on my end for someone that I have been friends with for a long time that I begin to feel I am being used as some sort of counselor. I can't play counselor anymore once I develop feelings.
ASG Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 That's not what I am saying. I don't have a problem having female friends as long as I don't develop feelings for them. So it isn't like the friendship starts out with me demanding payment. I have a few female friends I am not attracted to. I don't have a problem giving career or relationship advice. It is only when feelings start to develop on my end for someone that I have been friends with for a long time that I begin to feel I am being used as some sort of counselor. I can't play counselor anymore once I develop feelings. But they're just using you as a FRIEND, as they have been, in the past, before you developed your feelings, which, I'm assuming, you don't tell them about. So I'm guessing they probably get very confused when you do a 180 on them. It's still shoddy behaviour. They don't owe you anything.
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 But they're just using you as a FRIEND, as they have been, in the past, before you developed your feelings, which, I'm assuming, you don't tell them about. So I'm guessing they probably get very confused when you do a 180 on them. It's still shoddy behaviour. They don't owe you anything. Didn't say they owe me anything. But I don't owe them anything anymore either once I develop feelings. They shouldn't even ask why I have stopped communicating. The answer should be obvious. I am on the hunt for someone who is going to reciprocate what I am feeling.
ASG Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Didn't say they owe me anything. But I don't owe them anything anymore either once I develop feelings. They shouldn't even ask why I have stopped communicating. The answer should be obvious. I am on the hunt for someone who is going to reciprocate what I am feeling. Er... yes you do. If you were FRIENDS you do owe them an explanation. And again... your "different way" is WRONG! If you ARE on the hunt for someone who will reciprocate... then why this thread?! Because it clearly states that you will turn down every and any woman that shows the slightest interest in you!
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 Er... yes you do. If you were FRIENDS you do owe them an explanation. And again... your "different way" is WRONG! If you ARE on the hunt for someone who will reciprocate... then why this thread?! Because it clearly states that you will turn down every and any woman that shows the slightest interest in you! No I don't owe them an explanation. There's no written contract that says you can't break off a friendship without explaining yourself. Same goes for a relationship. The reasons don't really matter.
ASG Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 No I don't owe them an explanation. There's no written contract that says you can't break off a friendship without explaining yourself. Same goes for a relationship. The reasons don't really matter. How's that philosophy been working out for you, so far? Also, I notice that you didn't answer my question of, if you ARE on the hunt for someone, then why would you reject every woman that is interested in you, just for ****s an giggles?
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 How's that philosophy been working out for you, so far? Also, I notice that you didn't answer my question of, if you ARE on the hunt for someone, then why would you reject every woman that is interested in you, just for ****s an giggles? Because I can already smell it 8000 miles away that they are not interested for the right reasons.
ASG Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Because I can already smell it 8000 miles away that they are not interested for the right reasons. What are the right reasons? Or the wrong reasons? And so you'll reject EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, because you're psychic and know their reasons, without even having been on a date with them. How's that gonna work for your quest of finding someone who is interested i you?
Gloria25 Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 If you are referring to my ex girlfriend the one I couldn't keep an erection with then yeah I was frustrated like I was being punished somehow. Not being able to orgasam with a woman or stay hard is my punishment. I never was able to orgasm in any past relationship. Then with the last one it got worse to where I couldn't stay hard long enough to get the condom on and get in her. So I am totally cursed and screwed. Maybe I committed a terrible sex crime in a past incarnation and so this is my punishment to only be confined to masturbation and porn as the only way to get off. So ultimately I end up demoted to the friend-zone for failure to stay hard. No, serial muse is referring to your current crush... I mean, from what you posted here, your crush has been making several efforts to get close to you...she doesn't seem to be a bad person, and she doesn't have an ulterior objective (i.e. to get knocked up, use you, etc.)....But, you treat your crush like she is some evil spirt trying to destroy you. Yet, You keep on reverting back to some "ex" - who from what you describe here - was a selfish, immature, "high maintenance" cheater. She even calls you now and then and brags about all the men she's sleeping with (whom none are dumb enough to take her off the market - as if she's a "catch").....But, some how, you believe that this ex was the woman who was meant for you and only, only "if" you could have her again. That, she was such a great person with so much to offer any guy. So, now you must wallow in misery. I don't get guys like you...the women that are running a game on you and/or aren't worth toilet paper people wipe their butts on - you are gaga over. But, when you meet a good woman, you wanna punish her, question her, etc - cuz gosh darn, what good woman would want you? She must want you to meet her "charity/pity" requirement for the year. I say for you to go back to your ex. Misery loves company. If you feel you gotta be "punished" for not meeting the whims of some self-absorbed bimbo, then good. Going back to her will get you all the punishment you seek. So, leave the good girls - like your crush - alone so a guy that deserves them can pick them up. Better yet, go ahead and do your little "torture" game on these women, again, you will end up pushing them towards someone who will treat them better. 1
MercuryMorrison1 Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 To the OP. I have not had the pleasure of reading your other threads on this site. But I've made several of my own personal conclusions based off of this thread alone. It sounds like you might possibly have some kind of terminal illness then again you might just be some loser who pretends he's sick/dying...etc...etc simply to get attention from those around you, because you know...That kind of childish behavior is easy to pull off with no consequence over the internet. Regardless if you are dying or not...I think you are a very egotistical, self deluded, over entitled, *******. You're trying to reason this piss poor excuse for human behavior...But why? Why have this vendetta against women? Were you hurt by women? If so...Welcome to the club! I know it's already been stated here...But I think it's safe to say that pretty much anyone who has any dating experience what so ever has been burned. The difference is most of us move on with life...I and pretty much everyone I know has better things to do with their lives (No matter how long or short they may be) than spending their time plotting against the opposite sex. If you want to continue this pursuit to hurt people then go right ahead. But I promise you that you're not going to hurt them as bad as you think...In the end they'll just be glad to be done with your sorry ass and they'll move on with their lives, while you will continue to live in your lonely little world of hate and misery. Regardless of what ailment's you might or might not have...I have no sympathy nor pity for you. You're miserable because you choose to be so. 3
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 No, serial muse is referring to your current crush... I mean, from what you posted here, your crush has been making several efforts to get close to you...she doesn't seem to be a bad person, and she doesn't have an ulterior objective (i.e. to get knocked up, use you, etc.)....But, you treat your crush like she is some evil spirt trying to destroy you. Yet, You keep on reverting back to some "ex" - who from what you describe here - was a selfish, immature, "high maintenance" cheater. She even calls you now and then and brags about all the men she's sleeping with (whom none are dumb enough to take her off the market - as if she's a "catch").....But, some how, you believe that this ex was the woman who was meant for you and only, only "if" you could have her again. That, she was such a great person with so much to offer any guy. So, now you must wallow in misery. I don't get guys like you...the women that are running a game on you and/or aren't worth toilet paper people wipe their butts on - you are gaga over. But, when you meet a good woman, you wanna punish her, question her, etc - cuz gosh darn, what good woman would want you? She must want you to meet her "charity/pity" requirement for the year. I say for you to go back to your ex. Misery loves company. If you feel you gotta be "punished" for not meeting the whims of some self-absorbed bimbo, then good. Going back to her will get you all the punishment you seek. So, leave the good girls - like your crush - alone so a guy that deserves them can pick them up. Better yet, go ahead and do your little "torture" game on these women, again, you will end up pushing them towards someone who will treat them better. I'm not concerned about my crush that much anymore so it doesn't matter.
serial muse Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 I'm not concerned about my crush that much anymore so it doesn't matter. What matters is why you harbor anger against her when you're already the one that hurt her. I feel like you're dodging the question.
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 What matters is why you harbor anger against her when you're already the one that hurt her. I feel like you're dodging the question. Wrong assumption. She is not the one I am angry with. I wasn't thinking about her when I started this thread. Other posters brought her up.
serial muse Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Wrong assumption. She is not the one I am angry with. I wasn't thinking about her when I started this thread. Other posters brought her up. You should be thinking about her, though, because she is exactly the sort of person you're talking about. And maybe if you saw these people you propose hurting as actual people, you would think twice before doing this. And question the source of your anger to boot. I don't think you have good reason to be angry. 1
rester Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Just skimmed this thread, but Darren, if you really feel the need to hurt innocent women, emotionally or otherwise, I suggest getting some professional help. This is not normal behavior or thinking, and can get you in a lot of trouble and is really messed up. Have some empathy for these women. We've all been hurt by others, but you need to give people the benefit of the doubt and realize it was never their intention to hurt you.
Author Darren2013 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 You should be thinking about her, though, because she is exactly the sort of person you're talking about. And maybe if you saw these people you propose hurting as actual people, you would think twice before doing this. And question the source of your anger to boot. I don't think you have good reason to be angry. No because I am not dealing with her anymore. I wouldn't think of dating her to write her off anyway because like I said earlier she is a coworker and Lord only knows how much trouble she would cause for me at work in retaliation. So I'm not going to pull that kind of stunt on a coworker.
Gloria25 Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 You should be thinking about her, though, because she is exactly the sort of person you're talking about. And maybe if you saw these people you propose hurting as actual people, you would think twice before doing this. And question the source of your anger to boot. I don't think you have good reason to be angry. No, he "should" be thinking about his crush cuz I'm still perplexed as to where this desire to "write off" women comes from when he has a woman who's been nice to him and has made several efforts to get close to him.... But, he rather write off his crush and go on this mission to hurt unsuspecting women - while he hails some "ex" of his as the best thing that ever happened to him (despite his posts about her "high maintenance", cheating, etc.) Why won't you focus your anger and hate on someone that might deserve it? Like that ex you keep on talking about? Look, some people think they can't do better than certain things. Again, if you feel that your ex was "it" and it was all your fault it went wrong, please, please go back to her now. If you want I'll even help you do it. I will even go and buy you a ring so you can get on one knee and propose to her. That way, you'll be busy with all the drama with her and we can spare the single women out there from your scourge.
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