Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 It doesn't make sense to ask a man this question because the "best" a man can get varies so much by age, perceived maturity and income.. which can (and does) change constantly. Who cares if it changes, didn't you also say it changes for women (doesn't matter in what direction)? It makes perfect sense to ask a man this question. What is the BEST you can legitimately get right now? With women.. they become less attractive with age starting between 25-32. The "best" a woman can get decreases with age as the bloom of youth fades and baggage piles up. Totally different situation. How is it "totally different"? You act as if men inherently increase in value as they age meanwhile all women somehow automatically decrease. Unfortunately many men don't grow up to become handsome, rich, silver foxes. They just get fat, bad and old and some women maintain themselves well and have their own income and property so... I am 30 now and can attract women I couldn't when I was 25. When I'm 35 the same thing might be true. Or it might not be. Regardless of what the future holds, how well can you do currently? Yada, yada responses in bold.
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 You rejected *men who would of eventually rejected you. Wow. That's some crystal ball you've got there. No way I could've rejected them for reasons beyond self-preservation right? The truth is, neither you nor I know for certain they would've rejected me (though I suspect at least one of them definitely wouldn't have) but I'm pretty sure I have a better idea of the situation than you do. Nice try though.
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Then name your top 5 There really is no top five. -Fun -Stimulating conversation -Great sex -Loyalty (if she is worthy) -Security (if she is worthy) -Good genes (My mother got modeling offers) Oh wait.. that's more than 5. I can keep going too.
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Yada, yada responses in bold. I have always attracted really hot women. Still do.
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Wow. That's some crystal ball you've got there. No way I could've rejected them for reasons beyond self-preservation right? The truth is, neither you nor I know for certain they would've rejected me (though I suspect at least one of them definitely wouldn't have) but I'm pretty sure I have a better idea of the situation than you do. Nice try though. Of course no woman with any dignity would admit she rejected a rich and handsome guy because she was too insecure to enter such a relationship. Why would you ever admit to that? I don't expect you to admit it. But I'm 99% sure its true.
ascendotum Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I'm saying I did. Because that's what this thread is about: attraction. I doubt the majority does, but I think the op is smart to only date men she finds attractive (regardless of looks). The post headline was an attention grabber. Saying she only dates 'hot'/'not unattractive' guys people would assume its by widely accepted definition...the guys the majority and the more beautiful women wanted. Her OP qualifies it by saying her def of beauty might = butt ugly for other women. I highly doubt it that's extreme, but basically it boils down to her saying she needs to date a guy that she finds physically attractive. Not radical at all, and pretty much everyone on LS would say the same. Even if she said she just dates hot guys by group consensus lots would not give her any grief over it as I gather from posts she's made she quite an attractive girl. That's the way dating generally works, though quite a few will mask it a bit with chemistry/amazing personality. (yes there is variation in 'attractive' but leagues do exist. the parties I went to this year there was no shocks in who got with who or had the most attention, or no shocks in the variable success on OLD with my friends) . I've generally found young confident & attractive women to be pretty upfront on the guys they consider hot (not often is it unconventional, but high confidence in a guy does make up for looks) and what they want & don't want. She's pretty and its not radical to me even if she had left it at 'hot' and not 'what I consider hot'. LTRs do change the priority given to physical attraction by people, so the rise in hookup culture skews what people see. You certainly don't have to be everyone's cup of tea. It doesn't matter if you only find 20% of the age appropriate opposite sex desirable as long as there is a lot of crossover with that 20% in them finding you attractive...and you beat out the competition while they are single.
OwMyEyeball Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 There really is no top five. -Fun -Stimulating conversation -Great sex -Loyalty (if she is worthy) -Security (if she is worthy) -Good genes (My mother got modeling offers) Oh wait.. that's more than 5. I can keep going too. Please do 5 more!
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 Of course no woman with any dignity would admit she rejected a rich and handsome guy because she was too insecure to enter such a relationship. Why would you ever admit to that? I don't expect you to admit it. But I'm 99% sure its true. Or maybe, juuust maybe looks and money aren't at the forefront of every woman's mind? But oh okay. Good to know I didn't reject one of them because he was boring as s**t, couldn't stop talking about his job but felt like he didn't have to put any effort into being an interesting person to be around because of "the lifestyle he was willing to provide me". Ugh. And another because he was clingy and very insecure and wanted to spend every second of every day under my left tit if he could and followed me around like a lost puppy. I just...I really couldn't get wet for a guy like that. I guess you're sort of right though, I did reject one guy out of insecurity. He was so ridiculously wealthy and his life experiences and mine were so wildly different it made me really uncomfortable all the time. I really didn't see how things could ever possibly work out long term.
somedude81 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Or maybe, juuust maybe looks and money aren't at the forefront of every woman's mind? But oh okay. Good to know I didn't reject one of them because he was boring as s**t, couldn't stop talking about his job but felt like he didn't have to put any effort into being an interesting person to be around because of "the lifestyle he was willing to provide me". Ugh. And another because he was clingy and very insecure and wanted to spend every second of every day under my left tit if he could and followed me around like a lost puppy. I just...I really couldn't get wet for a guy like that. Is the left bigger than the right one? They aren't always equal you know! BTW, was he, the guy....?
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 I sincerely want to know why you hate women so much. He disdains women because he's been rejected left and right for years and women generally don't care for his real personality (and possibly his looks). They want nothing to do with him so he preemptively hates and looks down on all of them so he doesn't have to face rejection again. There are women in this thread telling what they think and feel and you seem to be entertaining yourself by telling them that they are lying or delusional. What is your point in doing that? What a waste of time! Excellent question. I'd like to know the rationale there as well.
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 Is the left bigger than the right one? They aren't always equal you know! Vice versa actually. They're sisters, not twins after all! BTW, was he, the guy....? Noooo! Oddly enough. 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Or maybe, juuust maybe looks and money aren't at the forefront of every woman's mind? But oh okay. Good to know I didn't reject one of them because he was boring as s**t, couldn't stop talking about his job but felt like he didn't have to put any effort into being an interesting person to be around because of "the lifestyle he was willing to provide me". Ugh. And another because he was clingy and very insecure and wanted to spend every second of every day under my left tit if he could and followed me around like a lost puppy. I just...I really couldn't get wet for a guy like that. I guess you're sort of right though, I did reject one guy out of insecurity. He was so ridiculously wealthy and his life experiences and mine were so wildly different it made me really uncomfortable all the time. I really didn't see how things could ever possibly work out long term. Yep. Now that you've come clean let me explain some things. First.. I never said women get wet for fat, bald, boring losers with money. In fact, I pointed out earlier in this thread how some women still smash the hot cable guy while being married to one of these goofs. The point I'm making here is all about the bold underline part above. LONG TERM. You see.. rich men are property the moment they marry a woman with a lower income. Once he signs a marriage license he is the property of his wife and the state will bring the full burden of the law to insure this. A woman with a new rich BF or Husband has just acquired a potential or actual nest slave that is financially responsible to her for nearly his whole life with no reciprocity required from her. Who would turn that down if they believed they could pull it off? This is not to say every woman sets out to do this.. but if her looks are fading and she wants to send her kids to a good school and raise them in a safe area, show off shiny consumer goods to her shallow friends, etc... she will often see the unattractive, but rich guy as a good deal.. IF he is stupid enough to marry her. She has nothing to lose after all. And if he is handsome AND rich? Forget about it. The majority of women are sold. That is.. IF they believe they can actually get to the alter and not just be a sex toy. Only some women have that confidence.
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Please do 5 more! Why? The point has been made. Don't be greedy.
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Yep. Now that you've come clean let me explain some things. First.. I never said women get wet for fat, bald, boring losers with money. In fact, I pointed out earlier in this thread how some women still smash the hot cable guy while being married to one of these goofs. The point I'm making here is all about the bold underline part above. LONG TERM. You see.. rich men are property the moment they marry a woman with a lower income. Once he signs a marriage license he is the property of his wife and the state will bring the full burden of the law to insure this. A woman with a new rich BF or Husband has just acquired a potential or actual nest slave that is financially responsible to her for nearly his whole life with no reciprocity required from her. Who would turn that down if they believed they could pull it off? This is not to say every woman sets out to do this.. but if her looks are fading and she wants to send her kids to a good school and raise them in a safe area, show off shiny consumer goods to her shallow friends, etc... she will often see the unattractive, but rich guy as a good deal.. IF he is stupid enough to marry her. She has nothing to lose after all. And if he is handsome AND rich? Forget about it. The majority of women are sold. That is.. IF they believe they can actually get to the alter and not just be a sex toy. Only some women have that confidence. But now you're finally coming clean and admitting not every woman or the vast majority do that like you kept saying constantly. Only a low percentage of women do the things that you kept saying. Vast majority is 80-90%. Like I said, a lot of the things you said in this thread would be pretty accurate if it weren't for implying a majority of women do these things. And it applied to only one guy to her if she's telling the full truth, but she was saying there were other wealthy guys that she didn't date due to completely different reasons & not due to insecurity about not being with them long term. 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 But now you're finally coming clean and admitting not every woman or the vast majority do that like you kept saying constantly. Only a low percentage of women do the things that you kept saying. Vast majority is 80-90%. Like I said, a lot of the things you said in this thread would be pretty accurate if it weren't for implying a majority of women do these things. And it applied to only one guy to her if she's telling the full truth, but she was saying there were other wealthy guys that she didn't date due to completely different reasons & not due to insecurity about not being with them long term. That is because only a low percentage of women are capable of doing those things. There are only so many rich guys around. The only prerequisite a woman needs is devotion from the guy. Then she is hooked. If he comes off like he just wants sex.. then sure.. he will get rejected because what good is his money if she will never see it? You need to re-read what I wrote. Maybe 10 or 20 times until you get it. 1
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 That is because only a low percentage of women are capable of doing those things. There are only so many rich guys around. The only prerequisite a woman needs is devotion from the guy. Then she is hooked. If he comes off like he just wants sex.. then sure.. he will get rejected because what good is his money if she will never see it? You need to re-read what I wrote. Maybe 10 or 20 times until you get it. Well, than your contradicting most of the stuff you said in this thread before when you kept saying vast majority over & over & over again in other posts. Why the sudden change all of a sudden?
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 But now you're finally coming clean and admitting not every woman or the vast majority do that like you kept saying constantly. Only a low percentage of women do the things that you kept saying. Vast majority is 80-90%. Like I said, a lot of the things you said in this thread would be pretty accurate if it weren't for implying a majority of women do these things. Thank you!! And it applied to only one guy to her if she's telling the full truth, but she was saying there were other wealthy guys that she didn't date due to completely different reasons & not due to insecurity about not being with them long term. I mean don't get me wrong, I've definitely turned down guys because I felt (or knew) they'd only use me for sex but none of them were very well off. Not every rich/well off guy is only interested in sex. In my experience, many of them are actually interested in LTRs but have a lot of difficulty finding something "real". 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Well, than your contradicting most of the stuff you said in this thread before when you kept saying vast majority over & over & over again in other posts. Why the sudden change all of a sudden? There is no change. Women go for the best men they can get. And since you're confused.. being used as a sex toy (or thinking you will) doesn't count as "get". "Get" means a marriage proposal. Any more questions? 1
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 And since you're confused.. being used as a sex toy (or thinking you will) doesn't count as "get". "Get" means a marriage proposal. Any more questions? What about those who don't want to get married at all? 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 What about those who don't want to get married at all? Then they don't get anyone.. they just sleep around or date. Is that a serious question? Are you going to ask me about Lesbians and women in comas next?
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Then they don't get anyone.. they just sleep around or date. Is that a serious question? Are you going to ask me about Lesbians and women in comas next? lol wtf. So you're saying that every single woman that's in their mid 20s & beyond that doesn't want to get married just wants to date or sleep around the rest of their life? There's women that are in healthy relationships with men where neither side wants to be married. 1
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 Then they don't get anyone.. they just sleep around or date. You missed the point. lol wtf. So you're saying that every single woman that's in their mid 20s & beyond that doesn't want to get married just wants to date or sleep around the rest of their life? There's women that are in healthy relationships with men where neither side wants to be married. You caught the point. 3
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 You missed the point. You caught the point. Some of his theories & beliefs are just really bizarre. He has an extremely negative view towards women for some reason.
RedRobin Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I'm totally with you on Brad Pitt - he does nothing for me... But Geoffrey Rush? :love: Oh, baby, do I ever think he's got sex appeal. Same here. Geoffrey Rush in 'Elizabeth' was HOT! None of the 'pretty' boys do anything for me. Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Matthew maconaghy... Nope. They all seem vapid to me. A younger Liam Neeson, Harvey Keitel in 'the piano'....mmm..mmmm.
RedRobin Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Of course no woman with any dignity would admit she rejected a rich and handsome guy because she was too insecure to enter such a relationship. Why would you ever admit to that? I don't expect you to admit it. But I'm 99% sure its true. There is some scholarly research that shows that people usually form lasting relationships with people who are similar to them... In age, finances, and looks. People like to focus on the exceptions only because, well, the exceptions stand out. If you aren't interested in a lasting relationship (whatever that means to you) then anything goes. 2
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