Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 Which society.....your local area/city/province/country, the US, North America as a whole, Asia, Europe, Australia???????? Oh come on. What does anyone ever mean when they say "society"? They may vary slightly from region to region but I think it's fairly safe to say "society" has generally agreed upon standards of beauty. One person's hotness is another person's horse backside. Well, that's pretty much the whole point of this thread so...
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 So already agreed you are with the best man you can get. So what's so funny? You should be laughing at yourself for agreeing with me after arguing for days. What is any of this even supposed to mean? Once again, tell me how you just know why I rejected those men? Oh wait, are we doing that thing where you pretend like I'm agreeing with you over and over again and I have to break down why you're wrong as if I were talking to a child? Llike in my last thread? Please say yes, that was so much fun! Well, until the mods got involved .
Tayken Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Oh come on. What does anyone ever mean when they say "society"? They may vary slightly from region to region but I think it's fairly safe to say "society" has generally agreed upon standards of beauty. Well, that's pretty much the whole point of this thread so... You have facts to back that up from an Asian, European, African, South American, Latin American etc perspective? I know for sure some groups like boobs, while others like legs, and others like backsides...get my gist. So how can there be a foregone conclusion on beauty for everyone?
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 What is any of this even supposed to mean? Once again, tell me how you just know why I rejected those men? The same way I know why a dog scratches himself. Oh wait, are we doing that thing where you pretend like I'm agreeing with you over and over again and I have to break down why you're wrong as if I were talking to a child? Llike in my last thread? Please say yes, that was so much fun! Well, until the mods got involved . You're clearly getting frustrated and going off topic. Listen close... I you already agreed that you are with the best man you can get. Right? Or did you settle? Did you?
xxoo Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Exactly. Yes, exactly! That attraction plus that compatibility is the holy grail.
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 You have facts to back that up from an Asian, European, African, South American, Latin American etc perspective? I know for sure some groups like boobs, while others like legs, and others like backsides...get my gist. So how can there be a foregone conclusion on beauty for everyone? In a way you make a good point though. Since first some say it's all about personal tastes in what they deem attractive than they mention what "society" views as attractive. But if you like something that others don't view as attractive than how do you exactly know what society in general likes? I guess you could go by occupation perhaps? Actors/actresses seem to be put on a high pedestal for being really attractive people in society just due to being in the public eye. And add in supermodels/models. But every person is an individual with different perceptions of what they find attractive.
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Believe what helps you sleep at night babe. Makes no difference to me. Why are you so bitter about these things for? Let me ask you, what exactly do you yourself want in a woman in detail? Since almost every post you made in this thread is negative about women. 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Yes, exactly! That attraction plus that compatibility is the holy grail. Compatibility = He is willing to marry you and isn't a total loser. Bio clock is ticking too.
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 So how can there be a foregone conclusion on beauty for everyone? I'm not saying everyone. I'm well aware that some parts of the world favor fuller lips and wider hips whereas others smaller feet or pale skin; however, a quick look around at what the "mainstream" considers attractive is pretty strong evidence. I didn't say these are people everyone in the whole world will be attracted to and want to sleep with them immediately, I'm saying there are people a large percentage of the population will find attractive. As in, wouldn't consider "ugly" by any stretch. Is this really even an issue that needs to be debated? Because if you're going to argue there is no general standard of beauty or attractiveness tell that to all the men who claim women only chase "hot guys". 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Why are you so bitter about these things for? Let me ask you, what exactly do you yourself want in a woman in detail? Since almost every post you made in this thread is negative about women. First off.. I don't say "negative" or "positive" things. I say true things. Regarding what I want in a woman.. pretty simple: -Sexual attraction (on both sides) -Loyalty -Depth -A little innocence (real, not faked)
Tayken Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I'm not saying everyone. I'm well aware that some parts of the world favor fuller lips and wider hips whereas others smaller feet or pale skin; however, a quick look around at what the "mainstream" considers attractive is pretty strong evidence. I didn't say these are people everyone in the whole world will be attracted to and want to sleep with them immediately, I'm saying there are people a large percentage of the population will find attractive. As in, wouldn't consider "ugly" by any stretch. Is this really even an issue that needs to be debated? Because if you're going to argue there is no general standard of beauty or attractiveness tell that to all the men who claim women only chase "hot guys". I understand you are in California....the whole world knows the place as a reputation, so we will just take the views you present as one based on la la land perspectives.
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 First off.. I don't say "negative" or "positive" things. I say true things. Regarding what I want in a woman.. pretty simple: -Sexual attraction (on both sides) -Loyalty -Depth -A little innocence (real, not faked) Okay, So what type of woman do you think is the best that you could get with personally? Since you keep throwing that term around for others in here.
xxoo Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Compatibility = He is willing to marry you and isn't a total loser. Bio clock is ticking too. Wrong on both accounts. Weird assumptions.
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Okay, So what type of woman do you think is the best that you could get with personally? Since you keep throwing that term around for others in here. It doesn't make sense to ask a man this question because the "best" a man can get varies so much by age, perceived maturity and income.. which can (and does) change constantly. With women.. they become less attractive with age starting between 25-32. The "best" a woman can get decreases with age as the bloom of youth fades and baggage piles up. Totally different situation. I am 30 now and can attract women I couldn't when I was 25. When I'm 35 the same thing might be true.
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I understand you are in California....the whole world knows the place as a reputation, so we will just take the views you present as one based on la la land perspectives. I think it's all based on people that are well known. So someone like Brad Pitt or a guy that's a male model is what "society" deems as attractive to women. So they apply that to everyday people where things like fit body, blue eyes, being tall, & good hair are seen as really attractive to "society". While for men, we apply it to the way cheerleaders, actresses or supermodels look & that's seen as attractive to male society. 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Wrong on both accounts. Weird assumptions. Nope. Right on both counts. Information isn't "weird" just because it doesn't make you feel good.
Author Lernaean_Hydra Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 The same way I know why a dog scratches himself. That's a ridiculous analogy. A dog scratches because he has an itch. Women reject men for all sorts of reasons. You're clearly getting frustrated and going off topic. Listen close... I you already agreed that you are with the best man you can get. Right? Or did you settle? Did you? No. 1) I'm single and 2) I've already said I've rejected better men so this "the best I can get" makes no sense.
OwMyEyeball Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 First off.. I don't say "negative" or "positive" things. I say true things. Regarding what I want in a woman.. pretty simple: -Sexual attraction (on both sides) -Loyalty -Depth -A little innocence (real, not faked) What can you offer in return? 1
xxoo Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Nope. Right on both counts. Information isn't "weird" just because it doesn't make you feel good. Weird because it doesn't apply, but you seem invested in it being true. Does it threaten you in some way when a woman marries for passionate love?maybe you've never experienced it. 1
NJ123 Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 It doesn't make sense to ask a man this question because the "best" a man can get varies so much by age, perceived maturity and income.. which can (and does) change constantly. With women.. they become less attractive with age starting between 25-32. The "best" a woman can get decreases with age as the bloom of youth fades and baggage piles up. Totally different situation. I am 30 now and can attract women I couldn't when I was 25. When I'm 35 the same thing might be true. There's a lot of women that are still really attractive into their late 20s/early 30s. And there's a lot of women that are older that don't have tons of baggage. Also, I don't exactly agree about this income thing with men, a lot of women don't give a **** about how much a guy makes. It's really only a concern when both the man & woman's combined income isn't enough if they really want to start a family. 1
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 That's a ridiculous analogy. A dog scratches because he has an itch. Women reject men for all sorts of reasons. All the reasons boil down to the same thing in the end: He doesn't have what she wants.. which usually boils down to: -Security -Attention (the right kind) -Utility (she can use him to get something she wants) -Whippability (potential utility) No. 1) I'm single and 2) I've already said I've rejected better men so this "the best I can get" makes no sense. You rejected me who would of eventually rejected you.
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 What can you offer in return? A lot more than what's on that list.
Mister Zen Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Weird because it doesn't apply, but you seem invested in it being true. Does it threaten you in some way when a woman marries for passionate love?maybe you've never experienced it. Are you saying the vast majority of women marry for passionate love? Warm, but naive viewpoint.
OwMyEyeball Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 A lot more than what's on that list. Then name your top 5 1
xxoo Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Are you saying the vast majority of women marry for passionate love? Warm, but naive viewpoint. I'm saying I did. Because that's what this thread is about: attraction. I doubt the majority does, but I think the op is smart to only date men she finds attractive (regardless of looks). 1
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