Darren2013 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 What in your opinion are the potential dangers for guys who play hard to get? When does it become too much?
Mister Zen Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 What in your opinion are the potential dangers for guys who play hard to get? When does it become too much? Unavailability is a huge turn on for most women. But they do have a breaking point after which it becomes neglect though. This will be different with each woman. If you have the natural tendency to over pursue (be too available) then balance it out with a busy lifestyle or by dating more than one woman at once.
Author Darren2013 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 I do believe in the theory that men need to be a little less interested than the woman or at least appear to be a little less interested. Study her current interest level in me and make sure I reveal less interest than hers. Like if her interest level is at 75% I will only reveal 65% interest level even though my interest level is really higher than hers at like 85%. What would that look like? That means making sure she is initiating touching and sex more than I am. If our dates are 3-4 hours long and she touches me 8 times then I make sure not to touch her more than 5 times. That's just one example. Bottom line is to study the pace she wants to drive the intimacy. She wants to drive 55mph I make sure to drive no faster than 45mph. Even though women are not aware on a conscious level that kind of playing hard to get is attractive as long as it isn't taken too far. However the lower a man's interest level the better able he is to think rationally and objectively. Our rational brain is more expressed at 55% interest level than at 85%. 1
Author Darren2013 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 If she says I love you then I say it once for every 5 times she says it. I call her once for every 3 times she calls me.
Author Darren2013 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Also it is better to wait for the woman to ask for an exclusive relationship. She should be the one wanting to promote you to boyfriend status if her feelings are really growing with time. Assuming you are doing everything right in actions to increase her attraction to you then eventually she will crack and ask you for sexual relationship or ask you to be her boyfriend. Even when she asks don't accept the promotion right away. Instead tell her "I'm happy to leave it the way it is and just be friends. I'm not ready for anything else as I need to improve myself in some areas of my life". That's working challenge. Pretending that you only want friendship when you really want more. I won't be accepting any offers of sex with her. I will just make sure to masturbate before each date to control my horny levels. Simple. The goal is to get her talking to all her girlfriends after each date with me and asking them "I don't understand why he doesn't want to have sex with me. We've been going out for the last 3-4 months and he does not have sex with me while all the guys I dated before him want it after 2 or 3 dates". That's what I want her saying when she talks to her girlfriends at a table and try to figure me out on why I won't sleep with her when she is giving the green light. Guys are so predictable. Women predict guys will just jump on every opportunity for sex when there's a green light. That's not working challenge and that's being too predictable. No I want to be the guy that she can't figure out. I don't want her to accurately predict what my next move is going to be. Edited November 9, 2014 by Darren2013
Mister Zen Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Once a woman has secured a man, she has no obligation to please him anymore.. and gradually she won't. This is why you always have to keep one foot out the door and other women in your life.
readynow Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Wow... Have you ever asked your female friends how they really feel about this? All I see is some guys exchanging ideas on what they think works. As far as I know, that sort of treatment will only work for women with very low self esteem, those who have been often rejected or who want the thrill of the chase... Wait, do women actually want the 'thrill of the chase'? I must have been living on another planet:o I personally have a very short attention span so a guy who is wasting time not showing he wants me will get absolutely no where. Putting that aside, for a normal woman, a man talking about wanting to straighten his life out will make me think he's on drugs, his life is totally messed up or is going through some strange psychological problem. Of course a man can say he doesn't want a relationship with me and that we can be friends and that's fine... but that it'll make me chase him? He's going to be running for a very long time:lmao:
Absinthe Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 The advice above is really, really bad. Young, inexperienced women might fall for it but anyone over the age of say, 23, is likely to bail on a guy who pulls these kinds of stunts. I've had my experience of the push/pull and it only means one thing: he's just not that into you. Case in point: I was seeing a guy who started doing the slow fade. I would call or SMS him and he would always reply, but never initiate. I did this a couple of times then I decided it was his turn initiate. He didn't, so I took the hint and stopped contacting him. He never called, and I never pushed it. Why would I? Other guys have and will call me without me having to play games!
most_distant_galaxy Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 In my experience, men with this kind of rules are not very generous or demonstrative in bed. Bring me a confident man who's genuine and knows how to live in the moment. Now, this is going to be exciting ....And keep the scared controlling kid on the top shelf, collecting dust.
Mister Zen Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Wow... Have you ever asked your female friends how they really feel about this? All I see is some guys exchanging ideas on what they think works. As far as I know, that sort of treatment will only work for women with very low self esteem, those who have been often rejected or who want the thrill of the chase... Wait, do women actually want the 'thrill of the chase'? I must have been living on another planet:o I personally have a very short attention span so a guy who is wasting time not showing he wants me will get absolutely no where. Putting that aside, for a normal woman, a man talking about wanting to straighten his life out will make me think he's on drugs, his life is totally messed up or is going through some strange psychological problem. Of course a man can say he doesn't want a relationship with me and that we can be friends and that's fine... but that it'll make me chase him? He's going to be running for a very long time:lmao: Nice case on why you would reject a man.. but self-esteem has nothing to do with it. Its more about options. What makes you a good option for a man compared to other women? High self-esteem? Hahaha.. sorry that ain't enough. Most men would take Britney Spears over Oprah.. even if Oprah has the higher self-esteem. 1
Mister Zen Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 The advice above is really, really bad. Young, inexperienced women might fall for it but anyone over the age of say, 23, is likely to bail on a guy who pulls these kinds of stunts. I've had my experience of the push/pull and it only means one thing: he's just not that into you. Case in point: I was seeing a guy who started doing the slow fade. I would call or SMS him and he would always reply, but never initiate. I did this a couple of times then I decided it was his turn initiate. He didn't, so I took the hint and stopped contacting him. He never called, and I never pushed it. Why would I? Other guys have and will call me without me having to play games! All women of all ages fall for this stuff. FACT. Your post is wishful thinking. If you really believed this stuff didn't work, you would just laugh about it rather than trying to get men to abandon these techniques. The advice women give men never works and men have finally caught on to this fact. 1
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