Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Has anyone ever thought that he may not want to come off as needy, so he holds back to increase desire? It's the push and pull method that gets women reeling in their seat. I think it's working. It sure is working. And we can NEVER let him know that. Ever. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
writergal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Has anyone ever thought that he may not want to come off as needy, so he holds back to increase desire? It's the push and pull method that gets women reeling in their seat. I think it's working. Hah! That "push-pull" method is the standard M.O. of all commitment-phobes and consummate bachelors. If he's doing that routine between the 4 dates and after, you can just call him Dr. Sam Malone. Diane...I mean Pumpkin...go find yourself a nice Frasier Krane instead. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Has anyone ever thought that he may not want to come off as needy, so he holds back to increase desire? It's the push and pull method that gets women reeling in their seat. I think it's working. Of course, it's a possibility. The public eye's interpretation however, of his behavior, is based on her interpretation relevant to the facts presented. Link to post Share on other sites
writergal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Of course, it's a possibility. The public eye's interpretation however, of his behavior, is based on her interpretation relevant to the facts presented. How is the push-pull method considered a good thing, when it's a manipulation tool that men use with women they already have a low interest in? No man, in the history of dating and romance would ever play hard to get with a woman he was truly interested in. He'd do the opposite. He'd shower her with attention and do whatever he could to win her over. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hah! That "push-pull" method is the standard M.O. of all commitment-phobes and consummate bachelors. If he's doing that routine between the 4 dates and after, you can just call him Dr. Sam Malone. Diane...I mean Pumpkin...go find yourself a nice Frasier Krane instead. I'd rather find Woody. Link to post Share on other sites
writergal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I'd rather find Woody. I love Woody!! Heh heh! Link to post Share on other sites
Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 How is the push-pull method considered a good thing, when it's a manipulation tool that men use with women they already have a low interest in? No man, in the history of dating and romance would ever play hard to get with a woman he was truly interested in. He'd do the opposite. He'd shower her with attention and do whatever he could to win her over. I AGREE!!! This is why I'm just about done with this guy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
smackie9 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 It sure is working. And we can NEVER let him know that. Ever. He does know that because of the way you act on your dates and the fact you have never turned down a date. Link to post Share on other sites
BluEyeL Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 But yeah, why no date on Saturday night? I always want my dates to be on Sat night I think my friend writergal is jumping a bit to conclusions. I still think the jury is out with this one. The only thing that is a bit iffy is the make out fest at every date. And possibly a question mark about his manners. Still under observation, this one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 How is the push-pull method considered a good thing, when it's a manipulation tool that men use with women they already have a low interest in? No man, in the history of dating and romance would ever play hard to get with a woman he was truly interested in. He'd do the opposite. He'd shower her with attention and do whatever he could to win her over. Hello my dear. My comment wasn't in response to "push-pull method". I don't know for a fact that, that is what he is doing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gold Pile Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 He's proven that he does know how to text. Perhaps he's lacking basic manners. If he's opposed to texting he should say so. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 But yeah, why no date on Saturday night? I always want my dates to be on Sat night I think my friend writergal is jumping a bit to conclusions. I still think the jury is out with this one. The only thing that is a bit iffy is the make out fest at every date. And possibly a question mark about his manners. Still under observation, this one. I did turn down one date because I had previous plans. We've only been dating two weeks, but had four dates in that time. He wouldn't dare ask for back-to-back dates and if he did, I wouldn't do it. I think four dates in two weeks is a lot...regardless if it was a Saturday or not. He's way older and experienced, kinda suave, regal. He scares me now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
writergal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 But yeah, why no date on Saturday night? I always want my dates to be on Sat night I think my friend writergal is jumping a bit to conclusions. I still think the jury is out with this one. The only thing that is a bit iffy is the make out fest at every date. And possibly a question mark about his manners. Still under observation, this one. Well I may be jumping to conclusions, but I'm a writer after all. I have to get to the conclusion as soon as possible. ;P Plus, he's old enough to know how to court a woman properly, texting or not. Is he cooling water or his heels with his tepid communication style with Pumpkin? I mean c'mon! So he gets an F on manners from me until he proves me wrong. I feel like I'm embodying the Criminal Intent character Alexandra Eames. I want to arrest this Dr. for mal-practice...of the heart. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 He does know that because of the way you act on your dates and the fact you have never turned down a date. I turned down one date. Link to post Share on other sites
writergal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hello my dear. My comment wasn't in response to "push-pull method". I don't know for a fact that, that is what he is doing. Hello my dear :bunny: Oh I misinterpreted your previous post. Sorry! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BluEyeL Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I really can't wait to find out if he asks for a 5th date. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hello my dear :bunny: Oh I misinterpreted your previous post. Sorry! That's okay. Whatever the case may be here, I see three options. Wait it out; Discuss with him directly; end dating relationship now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 I really can't wait to find out if he asks for a 5th date. On the fourth date, he was supposed to come to my city, but there was a major accident coming my direction so I ended up going his way. There was some talk about the next time him coming my way (no pun intended), and I suspect he's waiting for me to throw out an invitation. I kind of want to see him on a fifth date, just so I can see how he behaves. Don't worry, I will not sleep with him. I have a very strong constitution when it comes to matters of the flesh. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
writergal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I really can't wait to find out if he asks for a 5th date. If he does, I would check him for unicorn hair, Austrian snow or pictures of his Safari and then outline your "great expectations" for the 6th date and beyond. Not in a Glenn Close bunny boiler kind of way, but in a more direct Lois Lane kind of way, and write down his answers in case you need to write him a Px for "good communication etiquette of the 21st century." 3 Link to post Share on other sites
BluEyeL Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Well I may be jumping to conclusions, but I'm a writer after all. I have to get to the conclusion as soon as possible. ;P Plus, he's old enough to know how to court a woman properly, texting or not. Is he cooling water or his heels with his tepid communication style with Pumpkin? I mean c'mon! So he gets an F on manners from me until he proves me wrong. I feel like I'm embodying the Criminal Intent character Alexandra Eames. I want to arrest this Dr. for mal-practice...of the heart. LOL My guy was/is still bad with texting, so I give this one a few more dates to call the ending. If I posted about my guy at the 4th date, when he didn't even kiss me, everyone would have told me to kick him to the curb! What? 5 dates and no kiss? He's gay! He's not into you. What? No calling? No texting? He's stupid, not interested, rude... It took mine 2 months to catch feelings, so I give them a bit of time and sit tight, take notes and don't sabotage, throw tantrums or anything of the sort. I mean...that's what I did. Although I did pay Jess McCann a couple of times to get advice at those early days Instead of posting here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 If he does, I would check him for unicorn hair, Austrian snow or pictures of his Safari and then outline your "great expectations" for the 6th date and beyond. Not in a Glenn Close bunny boiler kind of way, but in a more direct Lois Lane kind of way, and write down his answers in case you need two write him a Px for "good communication etiquette of the 21st century." I won't be writing down his answers for an Rx of good communication etiquette. I will be writing down his answers to post here for all you girls to read. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If he does, I would check him for unicorn hair, Austrian snow or pictures of his Safari and then outline your "great expectations" for the 6th date and beyond. Not in a Glenn Close bunny boiler kind of way, but in a more direct Lois Lane kind of way, and write down his answers in case you need two write him a Px for "good communication etiquette of the 21st century." (haha) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
writergal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 That's okay. Whatever the case may be here, I see three options. Wait it out; Discuss with him directly; end dating relationship now. Those are excellent options. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author PumpkinLumpkin Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 This might be a false equivalency, but this is how I view abnormally long response times. It's almost like showing up late for functions. Responding 24-plus hours later is kinda saying "my time is more valuable than your time. You can wait." That's how I view it. Maybe he doesn't see it that way, but certainly at the beginning stages when you're supposed to be on your best behaviour, you'd care about the impression you're making. This is making me sad. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
BluEyeL Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I won't be writing down his answers for an Rx of good communication etiquette. I will be writing down his answers to post here for all you girls to read. Can you set up that date for tomorrow, or Wed at the latest? Too hard to wait! What are we going to discuss if the date is on Friday? Or never? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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