Attracted to depressive, snobby female; is it her scent?

[CoolCat771]

I need to ask you for some advice. Can you help me?

 

For starters, we both are employees of a larger company, so she’s technically not my boss, but more a supervisor of sorts. Despite her being in-charge, I tend to have stronger people skills and a sound practical knowledge of the job, and I believe that she has passively learned from being around me. I am definitely the dominant persona.

 

She is in her mid-twenties, has a good job, comes from a big, privileged family which is part of a large but tightly knit church community.

 

I am in my early 30s (like very early 30s), come from a small family with no siblings, work part-time as an assistant, but I am also working as a private fitness coach and going to school full-time. I am pretty experienced and applying for a Master’s degree for 2015.

 

I am generally considered, a good looking guy; 5'11, ripped, full head of hair, high energy and really outgoing, positive and optimistic, athletic (in really great shape), smart, confident, and I am approached by women a fair bit.

 

The girl I am "interested in", is somewhat of a mismatch. She's definitely not a supermodel (like a 5/10) , 5'4, doesn't take care of herself (thin but not in shape), but she's pretty cute and dresses nicely, uniquely and with class, carries herself with pride (or arrogance); and I personally find her attractive. She does have a sexy voice though, gets me going every time.

Personality wise, she's very cold, fake, narcissistic, materialistic, condescending and self-centered and lacks compassion. She repulses me from an ideological standpoint, yet I find myself drawn to her.

 

She's seems to be interested in men that are reasonably attractive with decent jobs, but are intellectually inferior to her (almost trashy); but are overall nothing special. Ironically, these same guys are intimidated by me, and are VERY submissive to me; yet she shows them more attention than myself. I don't think it's a racial thing, because I have heard her talk about guys of my ethnicity positively in terms of attractiveness, and I know when we had first met, she found me attractive. Ironically, I am in WAY better shape now than I was back then, dressing more nicely; completely put together.

 

She has asked me surface questions about my interests, hobbies. She watches sports and goes to church, doesn’t exercise or eat well, doesn’t cook or want kids, and wants to be a company person the rest of her life. On the other hand, I work out 6x/week, am a health nut, I am a half decent cook, read , play sports, and want children, and am planning on starting my own business one day (I think that she resents this; she hissed when I'd mentioned this to another employee LOL).

 

We are complete opposites, but are a great team at work. We both also share the same faith. I am also outgoing and open to a number of topics, and when we clash on a few, she chooses not to explore any further into them.

 

Moving on, I work at an office with all females, and I have developed a close and positive rapport with all of the other female co-workers and clients there, except for her (many of which of showed interest in me), even though I have often tried, but she is very comfortable around them

 

There are times where she’ll be excessively nice to me, though this is rare. There are even times where we have a very, VERY strong chemistry together. It’s very hot and cold. So I thought she might be shy and texted her a few times. We had very short conversations, but she has never initiated a texting conversation with me, though she’ll often try to at work. Granted, a close family member had been sick with a terminal illness the whole time I had known her.

 

Most of the time though, she puts up a wall and shuts me out. Gets super defensive. Like I mean holy ****, this girl shuts me OUT. To be fair I cannot be as aggressive or flirty as I would usually be since I don't want to jeopardize this work experience, or I would have asked her out a long time ago. This makes things difficult.

 

That family member I had mentioned recently died a few months ago of a disease. She has been depressed. I bought her a small but thoughful gift for her birthday, and gave it to her. Ever since I’ve done that, she’s treated me like complete garbage.

 

So I blew her off myself and continued to move on with my life. I've noticed it has had a very large impact on her, and she seems quite rattled by this. She is affected every time I enter a room, she often takes a step back and gets red. Every time I ignore her, I can hear her sigh or hiss (or both).

So now for the punch line. Every time I think I am over her, when I get near her I smell her perfume or body odor or something; and I get an INSTANT ATTRACTION.. like WOW. What the hell is with that?

Also, the more of snobby and negative she acts , the more drawn to her I am. How do I get over this ****?

Edited November 2, 2014 by CoolCat771

[Ninjainpajamas]

It's because she's not giving you the kind of attention you desire; although you seem to have more going on for her on the surface than she has going for her as a total package.

 

She shuns you out and rejects you because she probably feels to a degree intimidated, she acts with high walls because she's vulnerable and tries to reject acts of kindness and relationships from developing as she doesn't want to get too close to anyone. But you're wondering what's going on because she's nothing "special", doesn't have the looks to back of the attitude so why is she acting like she's "worth it"?

 

The reason I'm telling you this is because even though I know this is your own ego driving you forward, and you're just not getting the validation from her that you need to feel desirable is that you're just attracted to this woman's behavior and overall rejection from you and others because you seek that validation...because she's hard, challenging and closed off....you want to be that guy that punches through.

 

But there's nothing there beyond the surface of this game, the girls got issues and defensive mechanisms flaring off and you think it's just some game for you to win her over. But you're not going to stay interested once you break though it, and she's at that point going to be vulnerable and you might see why she really acts that way.

 

It doesn't mean she's a good person underneath it all, it doesn't even mean you're a good person for all the things you think highly of yourself...it's just people being people.

 

Just move on, you will be drawn like this to women in the future..women that reject you and shun you off, but that's probably because you're not truly available to accept someone who is willing to give you something.

 

You will likely end up with some girl who's giving you her all and you won't accept it or another girl who's giving you nothing but you keep chasing...choose your poison, and welcome to growing up.

[CoolCat771]

It's because she's not giving you the kind of attention you desire; although you seem to have more going on for her on the surface than she has going for her as a total package.

 

She shuns you out and rejects you because she probably feels to a degree intimidated, she acts with high walls because she's vulnerable and tries to reject acts of kindness and relationships from developing as she doesn't want to get too close to anyone. But you're wondering what's going on because she's nothing "special", doesn't have the looks to back of the attitude so why is she acting like she's "worth it"?

 

The reason I'm telling you this is because even though I know this is your own ego driving you forward, and you're just not getting the validation from her that you need to feel desirable is that you're just attracted to this woman's behavior and overall rejection from you and others because you seek that validation...because she's hard, challenging and closed off....you want to be that guy that punches through.

 

But there's nothing there beyond the surface of this game, the girls got issues and defensive mechanisms flaring off and you think it's just some game for you to win her over. But you're not going to stay interested once you break though it, and she's at that point going to be vulnerable and you might see why she really acts that way.

 

It doesn't mean she's a good person underneath it all, it doesn't even mean you're a good person for all the things you think highly of yourself...it's just people being people.

 

Just move on, you will be drawn like this to women in the future..women that reject you and shun you off, but that's probably because you're not truly available to accept someone who is willing to give you something.

 

You will likely end up with some girl who's giving you her all and you won't accept it or another girl who's giving you nothing but you keep chasing...choose your poison, and welcome to growing up.

 

 

What is your problem man? You totally misinterpreted what I was saying man. I had feelings for the girl. Strong feelings that continued long after I found out what kind of person she was. Where are you getting all of this from?

 

The only reason that I'd brought this up was because I was trying to point out that she doesn't think of herself as as a supermodel or something similar.

Edited November 2, 2014 by CoolCat771

[Ninjainpajamas]

What is your problem man? You totally misinterpreted what I was saying man. I had feelings for the girl. Strong feelings that continued long after I found out what kind of person she was. Where are you getting all of this from?

 

Your behavior...this is very common.

 

Think about where these "feeling" come from?

 

Read your whole post again and give me one good reason you like this girl for who she is.

 

Tell me why you or how you've developed any "significant" feelings for this girl based on something deeper than the surface.

[CoolCat771]

Your behavior...this is very common.

 

Think about where these "feeling" come from?

 

Read your whole post again and give me one good reason you like this girl for who she is.

 

Tell me why you or how you've developed any "significant" feelings for this girl based on something deeper than the surface.

 

I had feelings for the girl. Strong feelings that continued long after I found out what kind of person she was. Where are you getting all of this from? I gave her that gift because I felt it was a means to create a bond between me and her, because I have an inexplicable attraction to her, which transcends the physical. Though I think this attraction is unjustified.

 

I ws being nice to her and trying to talk to her. You should her some of the insensitive and ridiculous things she says. I should be turned off but I am not.

 

The only reason that I'd brought up her looks was because I was trying to point out that she's not one of those girls who thinks she's too pretty for any guy out there and that i am not infatuated with her beauty. Looks are actually secondary to me, I am completely unaware as to the basis of my attraction to her

[michellew]

You mentioned you don't think it's a race thing. It very well could be. No matter how much you have in common (or don't in this case), some people are still physically attracted to a particular ethnicity. For example, I am usually attracted to white men. I have dated a couple of Hispanic men, but nothing serious. I don't think it's racist either; some people just have a 'type'. I know plenty of people that can tell you the same thing. However, this girl would never admit it because it is simply not politically correct and she would in fact come off as racist.

[CoolCat771]

You mentioned you don't think it's a race thing. It very well could be. No matter how much you have in common (or don't in this case), some people are still physically attracted to a particular ethnicity. For example, I am usually attracted to white men. I have dated a couple of Hispanic men, but nothing serious. I don't think it's racist either; some people just have a 'type'. I know plenty of people that can tell you the same thing. However, this girl would never admit it because it is simply not politically correct and she would in fact come off as racist.

 

Then why care if I withdraw? Like she's so affected. She's not white by the way and neither am I

 

You also gotta understand, she won't even let me in as a friend. I don't understand this.

[Ninjainpajamas]

I had feelings for the girl. Strong feelings that continued long after I found out what kind of person she was. Where are you getting all of this from? I gave her that gift because I felt it was a means to create a bond between me and her, because I have an inexplicable attraction to her, which transcends the physical. Though I think this attraction is unjustified.

 

I ws being nice to her and trying to talk to her. You should her some of the insensitive and ridiculous things she says. I should be turned off but I am not.

 

The only reason that I'd brought up her looks was because I was trying to point out that she's not one of those girls who thinks she's too pretty for any guy out there and that i am not infatuated with her beauty. Looks are actually secondary to me, I am completely unaware as to the basis of my attraction to her

 

I'm trying to get you to think this through...because it's all superficial but you're doing the whole "I feel something deeper from somewhere....is it magic?"...it's just normal crap and you have every reason to walk away and should for your own sake but you can't see that now.

 

You were being nice to her as a way of seeking validation from her, thinking it could increase the bond and bring her closer to you..it's not rocket science.

 

The problem is I'm on about step 10 in understand this and you're on about step 1, while in this little cloud with her thinking that you're seeing and feeling something supernatural with this girl...if anything she's going to outsmart you and realize how infatuated you are becoming with her and start toying with you.

 

This is not about feelings...you think there is something to win or accomplish by gaining her interest, it validates you in some way.

 

I'm sorry, but there's no story book romance here where you're getting some kind of mystical "connection" with her beyond the ugly exterior...this is not your version of "beauty and beast" and it's NOT because you see beyond looks...this woman doesn't sound like a catch in any way, regardless of having the same "faith".

 

Unfortunately I don't have the patience to explain steps 2 through 9 for you to be brought up to speed, after all...this is just as likely to go absolutely nowhere and you could be interested in someone else soon...which would honestly be best for you if you could find a new crush to over-analyze and try to find deeper meaning over.

[michellew]

Then why care if I withdraw? Like she's so affected. She's not white by the way and neither am I

 

You also gotta understand, she won't even let me in as a friend. I don't understand this.

 

Perhaps she senses you like her and doesn't want to lead you on. That could be why she doesn't want to let you in. She could also be keeping your relationship professional, not personal. She sounds like a Type A...there to work, not to make friends. Who knows. I say you start blowing her off and see what happens.

[CoolCat771]

I'm trying to get you to think this through...because it's all superficial but you're doing the whole "I feel something deeper from somewhere....is it magic?"...it's just normal crap and you have every reason to walk away and should for your own sake but you can't see that now.

 

You were being nice to her as a way of seeking validation from her, thinking it could increase the bond and bring her closer to you..it's not rocket science.

 

The problem is I'm on about step 10 in understand this and you're on about step 1, while in this little cloud with her thinking that you're seeing and feeling something supernatural with this girl...if anything she's going to outsmart you and realize how infatuated you are becoming with her and start toying with you.

 

This is not about feelings...you think there is something to win or accomplish by gaining her interest, it validates you in some way.

 

I'm sorry, but there's no story book romance here where you're getting some kind of mystical "connection" with her beyond the ugly exterior...this is not your version of "beauty and beast" and it's NOT because you see beyond looks...this woman doesn't sound like a catch in any way, regardless of having the same "faith".

 

Unfortunately I don't have the patience to explain steps 2 through 9 for you to be brought up to speed, after all...this is just as likely to go absolutely nowhere and you could be interested in someone else soon...which would honestly be best for you if you could find a new crush to over-analyze and try to find deeper meaning over.

 

 

 

Are you trying to troll me man? I have not been flirting with this girl that much dude. I have just been trying to connect with her as I do everyone else. She much despise me. I've never called her ugly man, but i'll admit she's not usually my type.

 

Why does she take such offense to me snubbing her out? Do you think that she's that foolish to assume that making friends with a woman is automatically romantic interest?

 

Buddy, her mom died and I gave her a small gift for her birthday. How can that be definitively construed as romantic interest?

[CoolCat771]

Perhaps she senses you like her and doesn't want to lead you on. That could be why she doesn't want to let you in. She could also be keeping your relationship professional, not personal. She sounds like a Type A...there to work, not to make friends. Who knows. I say you start blowing her off and see what happens.

 

 

She's quite friendly with other staff members, and often confides in them.

Not me though. Granted they are all women.

 

I don't approach her very often really; it's not what you think. I don't really chase very hard or anything. I really don't. I've never asked her out, or even hinted at doing so.

 

My main question is this: If her objective was to get me to stop liking her, why is it that when I stopped liking her, she was upset? Extremely upset.

 

She's even annoyed with me speaking to other employees about things I like and dislike. I caught her rolling her eyes during one of my conversations with another employee regarding a completely unrelated subject.

 

She often compares herself to my value system, and when I mention anything romantic when talking to someone else, she mirrors the conversation to either myself or to someone else.

Edited November 2, 2014 by CoolCat771

[Thegreatestthing]

You like her because she shuts you out and treats you poorly like most guys,you'll grow out of it,maybe not,the old proverb treat them mean keep them keen didn't become proverbial for nothing.

I need to ask you for some advice. Can you help me?

 

For starters, we both are employees of a larger company, so she’s technically not my boss, but more a supervisor of sorts. Despite her being in-charge, I tend to have stronger people skills and a sound practical knowledge of the job, and I believe that she has passively learned from being around me. I am definitely the dominant persona.

 

She is in her mid-twenties, has a good job, comes from a big, privileged family which is part of a large but tightly knit church community.

 

I am in my early 30s (like very early 30s), come from a small family with no siblings, work part-time as an assistant, but I am also working as a private fitness coach and going to school full-time. I am pretty experienced and applying for a Master’s degree for 2015.

 

I am generally considered, a good looking guy; 5'11, ripped, full head of hair, high energy and really outgoing, positive and optimistic, athletic (in really great shape), smart, confident, and I am approached by women a fair bit.

 

The girl I am "interested in", is somewhat of a mismatch. She's definitely not a supermodel (like a 5/10) , 5'4, doesn't take care of herself (thin but not in shape), but she's pretty cute and dresses nicely, uniquely and with class, carries herself with pride (or arrogance); and I personally find her attractive. She does have a sexy voice though, gets me going every time.

Personality wise, she's very cold, fake, narcissistic, materialistic, condescending and self-centered and lacks compassion. She repulses me from an ideological standpoint, yet I find myself drawn to her.

 

She's seems to be interested in men that are reasonably attractive with decent jobs, but are intellectually inferior to her (almost trashy); but are overall nothing special. Ironically, these same guys are intimidated by me, and are VERY submissive to me; yet she shows them more attention than myself. I don't think it's a racial thing, because I have heard her talk about guys of my ethnicity positively in terms of attractiveness, and I know when we had first met, she found me attractive. Ironically, I am in WAY better shape now than I was back then, dressing more nicely; completely put together.

 

She has asked me surface questions about my interests, hobbies. She watches sports and goes to church, doesn’t exercise or eat well, doesn’t cook or want kids, and wants to be a company person the rest of her life. On the other hand, I work out 6x/week, am a health nut, I am a half decent cook, read , play sports, and want children, and am planning on starting my own business one day (I think that she resents this; she hissed when I'd mentioned this to another employee LOL).

 

We are complete opposites, but are a great team at work. We both also share the same faith. I am also outgoing and open to a number of topics, and when we clash on a few, she chooses not to explore any further into them.

 

Moving on, I work at an office with all females, and I have developed a close and positive rapport with all of the other female co-workers and clients there, except for her (many of which of showed interest in me), even though I have often tried, but she is very comfortable around them

 

There are times where she’ll be excessively nice to me, though this is rare. There are even times where we have a very, VERY strong chemistry together. It’s very hot and cold. So I thought she might be shy and texted her a few times. We had very short conversations, but she has never initiated a texting conversation with me, though she’ll often try to at work. Granted, a close family member had been sick with a terminal illness the whole time I had known her.

 

Most of the time though, she puts up a wall and shuts me out. Gets super defensive. Like I mean holy ****, this girl shuts me OUT. To be fair I cannot be as aggressive or flirty as I would usually be since I don't want to jeopardize this work experience, or I would have asked her out a long time ago. This makes things difficult.

 

That family member I had mentioned recently died a few months ago of a disease. She has been depressed. I bought her a small but thoughful gift for her birthday, and gave it to her. Ever since I’ve done that, she’s treated me like complete garbage.

 

So I blew her off myself and continued to move on with my life. I've noticed it has had a very large impact on her, and she seems quite rattled by this. She is affected every time I enter a room, she often takes a step back and gets red. Every time I ignore her, I can hear her sigh or hiss (or both).

So now for the punch line. Every time I think I am over her, when I get near her I smell her perfume or body odor or something; and I get an INSTANT ATTRACTION.. like WOW. What the hell is with that?

Also, the more of snobby and negative she acts , the more drawn to her I am. How do I get over this ****?

[CoolCat771]

You like her because she shuts you out and treats you poorly like most guys,you'll grow out of it,maybe not,the old proverb treat them mean keep them keen didn't become proverbial for nothing.

 

Nah dude. I just need this to end. I've got to continue blowing her off.

[CoolCat771]

It's because she's not giving you the kind of attention you desire; although you seem to have more going on for her on the surface than she has going for her as a total package.

 

She shuns you out and rejects you because she probably feels to a degree intimidated, she acts with high walls because she's vulnerable and tries to reject acts of kindness and relationships from developing as she doesn't want to get too close to anyone. But you're wondering what's going on because she's nothing "special", doesn't have the looks to back of the attitude so why is she acting like she's "worth it"?

 

The reason I'm telling you this is because even though I know this is your own ego driving you forward, and you're just not getting the validation from her that you need to feel desirable is that you're just attracted to this woman's behavior and overall rejection from you and others because you seek that validation...because she's hard, challenging and closed off....you want to be that guy that punches through.

 

But there's nothing there beyond the surface of this game, the girls got issues and defensive mechanisms flaring off and you think it's just some game for you to win her over. But you're not going to stay interested once you break though it, and she's at that point going to be vulnerable and you might see why she really acts that way.

 

It doesn't mean she's a good person underneath it all, it doesn't even mean you're a good person for all the things you think highly of yourself...it's just people being people.

 

Just move on, you will be drawn like this to women in the future..women that reject you and shun you off, but that's probably because you're not truly available to accept someone who is willing to give you something.

 

You will likely end up with some girl who's giving you her all and you won't accept it or another girl who's giving you nothing but you keep chasing...choose your poison, and welcome to growing up.

 

 

You know what I've seen this again from a different perspective this morning. Thank you for your advice.

 

 

I will say this however; I am a good person and I don't think highly of myself. I am being completely objective with my statements. I guess you don't actually know me IRL, so it's hard to know this about me.

[angel.eyes]

We value different things. You provided a laundry list of things that you consider positives about yourself. I mean no disrespect, but in that list were three things that would be mild deal breakers for me and a bunch of stuff that doesn't play into my selection process. Who knows what she seeks in a potential romantic partner?

 

Women are fairly intuitive and can generally tell when a guy is probably interested. That's why I would give you the cold shoulder. I don't want to lead guys on or encourage them when there's no interest on my part. When you back off, I would think you got the message, and now I can be as friendly and nice to you as I am with everyone else. When you start hinting again, unfortunately, I have to go back to being cold and aloof.

 

As for her behaviors that you interpret as her being upset? You're interpreting her actions through your lens of liking her. You might roll your eyes to be flirtatious. But rolling your eyes at what someone saying canalso be dismissive and disrespectful. What the person is saying is so ridiculous or you think so little of the person that you can't even bother with a thoughtful verbal response. Which is it? We don't know the dynamic of your interactions with her.

 

You have two choices:

• Pursue this: Ask her to join you for lunch or an after-work drink (as you would any other coworker). If that goes well, ask for a date
  
• Move on to someone else: This would be my recommendation. Since you don't like her personality, described her as a 5/10, etc., you're wasting time on a crazy fantasy outcome that's highly unlikely.
  

[CoolCat771]

We value different things. You provided a laundry list of things that you consider positives about yourself. I mean no disrespect, but in that list were three things that would be mild deal breakers for me and a bunch of stuff that doesn't play into my selection process. Who knows what she seeks in a potential romantic partner?

 

Women are fairly intuitive and can generally tell when a guy is probably interested. That's why I would give you the cold shoulder. I don't want to lead guys on or encourage them when there's no interest on my part. When you back off, I would think you got the message, and now I can be as friendly and nice to you as I am with everyone else. When you start hinting again, unfortunately, I have to go back to being cold and aloof.

 

As for her behaviors that you interpret as her being upset? You're interpreting her actions through your lens of liking her. You might roll your eyes to be flirtatious. But rolling your eyes at what someone saying canalso be dismissive and disrespectful. What the person is saying is so ridiculous or you think so little of the person that you can't even bother with a thoughtful verbal response. Which is it? We don't know the dynamic of your interactions with her.

 

You have two choices:

• Pursue this: Ask her to join you for lunch or an after-work drink (as you would any other coworker). If that goes well, ask for a date
  
• Move on to someone else: This would be my recommendation. Since you don't like her personality, described her as a 5/10, etc., you're wasting time on a crazy fantasy outcome that's highly unlikely.
  

 

 

The eye roll was highly disrespectful and concerned me talking to someone else about something that she wasn't involved with. I was discussing something that I'd liked to do for fun that many find a pain to do.

 

What I am trying to say is that the more I am backing off, the more hostile she is becoming towards me. What's with that ****?

 

 

 

 

 

 

What things would be deal breakers for you? Elaborate.

 

Is being positive and ambitious a deal-breaker for you? Is being courteous and respectful a deal-breaker? Is being responsible and emotionally stable a dealbreaker for you? Is taking care of myself physically and wanting to live a long and healthy productive life a deal breaker?

 

What is it you'd want then? Money? Expensive cars? Designer clothing? Docility and passivity; glib and superficial charm amounting to nothing asubstantial? An individual that conforms to societal standards to the letter without questioning them?

 

I just don't understand. Is it my candor? Every one thinks things in their head mentally that they don't say in real life. I only talk about my positive points online because this is anonymous, and would never do so in real life. I am a really highly respected person for that reason, and I pride myself on it. I am not who you think I am.

Edited November 2, 2014 by CoolCat771

[angel.eyes]

As I said, I meant no disrespect. I was simply pointing out that what you value and consider positives won't necessarily be the same things that she will value in partner selection.

 

To answer your question, I look for guys who are kind, considerate, empathetic, passionate about something in their life, goal-oriented, optimistic, intelligent, and honest. They have integrity, share my values, want the same things out of dating that I do, and treat me well.

 

Sure, everyone I've dated has been universally attractive, in great shape, and well-travelled, amongst a host of other irrelevant traits. But that's self-selection on the guy's part. It has nothing to do with my personal preferences. I don't ask guys out, so I'm limited to whoever has sufficient interest and confidence to ask me out.

Edited November 2, 2014 by angel.eyes

[CoolCat771]

As I said, I meant no disrespect. I was simply pointing out that what you value and consider positives won't necessarily be the same things that she will value in partner selection.

 

To answer your question, I look for guys who are kind, considerate, empathetic, passionate about something in their life, goal-oriented, optimistic, intelligent, and honest. They have integrity, share my values, want the same things out of dating that I do, and treat me well.

 

Sure, everyone I've dated has been universally attractive, in great shape, and well-travelled, amongst a host of other irrelevant traits. But that's self-selection on the guy's part. It has nothing to do with my personal preferences. I don't ask guys out, so I'm limited to whoever has sufficient interest and confidence to ask me out.

 

I'm not offended but I am curious about how others perceive me.You'd said that there were three things about me in particular that you'd noticed when reading about me that were deal-breakers. You never answered that question. What are they? You can't leave me hanging like that.

 

I am a nice guy, but I am not a pushover.

Edited November 2, 2014 by CoolCat771

[FitChick]

What are your respective races? Could be cultural.

[CoolCat771]

What are your respective races? Could be cultural.

 

 

She's from Middle-Eastern from Africa; I'm West-Indian Black.

 

 

I should also mention that I have seen her out with another guy on a double date. Ironically she'd ended up seeing me from afar, but didn't notice that I had seen her. He looked to be from a similar cultural background; average looking guy. She saw me the day after, told me she saw me at the mall, and left out the detail that she was out with a guy (only mentioned her girlfriend; who was smoking hot btw). I stayed quiet about noticing that she was there. You'd think if she'd wanted me to back off completely, she'd just come out and mention another guy.

 

In the past she's seemed to crush on guys from many different races. Anyone who strokes her ego and plays up to superficial interests (i.e. watching sports), which I don't/cannot really do since we work together. She does like white guys as well though, and has dated them in the past.

Edited November 3, 2014 by CoolCat771