Mister Zen Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Even though I don't use this PUA stuff anymore, I think this tip in particular would help a lot of men here. The objective: Date multiple women and make the women chase you. It sounds too good to be true, but its not. I was answering a post about why women love married men, and I remembered this little PUA trick I used a few times. I really does work. Its basically reverse physiology. There are two things you have to do: 1. Have as many female friends as you can. Yes, "friends" who are women, but you don't date them. 2. Once you land a first date with a girl, tell her at some point during the date, that you really like her, but you think its best you stay friends for now because you want to get your life together. 3. Repeat. Eventually what happens is these women will either come onto you, or try to set you up with their friends. So the big question you probably have is why I stopped doing this. Three reasons: 1. Drama 2. Love triangles 3. Lack of free time (it was too demanding)
Maleficent Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 4. Probably only worked with girls. Women walk away from games like that... 10
ThaWholigan Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 4. Probably only worked with girls. Women walk away from games like that... Think the only time it would work is if it's not a "game" per se. I've made a female friend recently this way simply because I can't really date right now even though there's been interest. Generally though, I don't use it as a dating strategy . It does depend on the woman though - and whether it's a manipulation tactic or simply the truth.
GemmaUK Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 3. Lack of free time (it was too demanding) I don't completely agree but yep men could use being a bit mysterious at 'least'. Only two men I had relationships with achieved this. I did actually speak to another guy I was in a RS with about being a bit less available etc and he said 'what for?' He totally adored me...I wasn't all that into him. He was there whenever I turned or picked up a text or went to email someone or was IMing a friend...bit like a meerkat... It's part of the push/pull/ebb/flow and FUN (!!) of relationships. It keeps both men and women on their toes. I still need some fun when I'm dating!!!! It all gets sooo serious sooo quick with guys my age! 2
ThaWholigan Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I don't completely agree but yep men could use being a bit mysterious at 'least'. Only two men I had relationships with achieved this. I did actually speak to another guy I was in a RS with about being a bit less available etc and he said 'what for?' He totally adored me...I wasn't all that into him. He was there whenever I turned or picked up a text or went to email someone or was IMing a friend...bit like a meerkat... It's part of the push/pull/ebb/flow and FUN (!!) of relationships. It keeps both men and women on their toes. I still need some fun when I'm dating!!!! It all gets sooo serious sooo quick with guys my age! Having a life? My brother ended up with his GF the same way. Pursued her for a WHOLE evening in early September and then when he finally got her number he told her he'd give her a call in late October because he has a busy month ahead! (he wasn't lying). She couldn't wait till then - been inseparable since. 1
Woggle Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 If I have to play these stupid games I don't want her anyway. Anybody that goes for this isn't really looking for a relationship anyway. They have want what you can't have syndrome which is all about validating their own ego. 5
GemmaUK Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Having a life? My brother ended up with his GF the same way. Pursued her for a WHOLE evening in early September and then when he finally got her number he told her he'd give her a call in late October because he has a busy month ahead! (he wasn't lying). She couldn't wait till then - been inseparable since. Love it!! He was honest and followed up..she would have had doubts....but worth the wait. There is nothing more tantalizing than not quite knowing though...urgh! (in a great way!) It's sexy!
Cristo Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I don't completely agree but yep men could use being a bit mysterious at 'least'. Only two men I had relationships with achieved this. I did actually speak to another guy I was in a RS with about being a bit less available etc and he said 'what for?' He totally adored me...I wasn't all that into him. He was there whenever I turned or picked up a text or went to email someone or was IMing a friend...bit like a meerkat... It's part of the push/pull/ebb/flow and FUN (!!) of relationships. It keeps both men and women on their toes. I still need some fun when I'm dating!!!! It all gets sooo serious sooo quick with guys my age! You sound like way too much work to date. Based on your response here, you would have too many red flags for me. 1
Cristo Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Even though I don't use this PUA stuff anymore, I think this tip in particular would help a lot of men here. The objective: Date multiple women and make the women chase you. It sounds too good to be true, but its not. I was answering a post about why women love married men, and I remembered this little PUA trick I used a few times. I really does work. Its basically reverse physiology. There are two things you have to do: 1. Have as many female friends as you can. Yes, "friends" who are women, but you don't date them. 2. Once you land a first date with a girl, tell her at some point during the date, that you really like her, but you think its best you stay friends for now because you want to get your life together. 3. Repeat. Eventually what happens is these women will either come onto you, or try to set you up with their friends. So the big question you probably have is why I stopped doing this. Three reasons: 1. Drama 2. Love triangles 3. Lack of free time (it was too demanding) I agree. This works very well. My friends that do the best with women are always using manipulation tactics and they date very attractive women.
GemmaUK Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 You sound like way too much work to date. Based on your response here, you would have too many red flags for me. I just like a bit of intrigue when I start dating someone. I don't need nor want to know his every move. I don't need to know what he had for breakfast, lunch and dinner (with photos) each day. I don't want ILY in a week and let's move in after a month. That all sucks the life out of me and I feel swamped/smothered by it. Dating should be fun until a point in time where it hits that things are serious for you both IMO. 1
Author Mister Zen Posted October 26, 2014 Author Posted October 26, 2014 4. Probably only worked with girls. Women walk away from games like that... Only if they are aware its a game. And if you do it right they won't be.
Author Mister Zen Posted October 26, 2014 Author Posted October 26, 2014 I agree. This works very well. My friends that do the best with women are always using manipulation tactics and they date very attractive women. Yeah, it definitely works for dating very attractive women. Its kind of a roundabout way of getting "social proof". Women make certain assumptions about men who are always surrounded by attractive women: - He has something going for him - He is confident - He actually likes women - He is not a creep It also brings out their competitive edge. They want to be the "special one" that beats out all the others. This is where the drama starts. Sometimes it seems like women like being manipulated. I did a lot better with women when I used all this PUA stuff.
Divasu Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Even though I don't use this PUA stuff anymore, I think this tip in particular would help a lot of men here. So the big question you probably have is why I stopped doing this. Three reasons: 1. Drama 2. Love triangles 3. Lack of free time (it was too demanding) You missed one: 4. Morals. 1
littleblackheart Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Sometimes it seems like women like being manipulated. I've yet to meet one person, man or woman, who likes being manipulated. It's really hard to tell whether you are being genuine or you just say these things to provoke a reaction. 1
sid3 Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Disgusting. Be that as it may, back in the day when the OP was a PUA he was meeting and dating countless attractive women. Somehow, somewhere, something went wrong and now he "doesn't do as well with women" 2
StanMusial Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I've yet to meet one person, man or woman, who likes being manipulated. It's really hard to tell whether you are being genuine or you just say these things to provoke a reaction. I don't like manipulation. In any context. It's just greasy and underhanded. Being less available shouldn't be a tactic, it should be a side effect of a well-rounded life. Otherwise you're just pretending. I read The Game several years ago and the whole PUA scene seemed so fake. I don't doubt that some of it could work in a temporary way. That's fine I guess if that does it for you but if you want a gf and a good one (or what my idea of a good one is) it's not going to help that much. 2
gaius Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 There's some truth to that, but women who fall for that stuff while sometimes beautiful tend to be stupid and low quality. I distinctly remember a very attractive friend of mine hitting on me after I kept telling her all about a different girl who was hitting on me, but then later on I found out she got herpes from blowing a guy she just met in a bar one time. Who probably did the same thing I did, albeit more deliberately. It's kind of better to just focus on one good girl and not be super manipulative. But it doesn't hurt to remind her from time to time how desirable you are to other people. 5
ComingInHot Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Yeah, it definitely works for dating very attractive women. Its kind of a roundabout way of getting "social proof". Women make certain assumptions about men who are always surrounded by attractive women: - He has something going for him - He is confident - He actually likes women - He is not a creep It also brings out their competitive edge. They want to be the "special one" that beats out all the others. This is where the drama starts. Sometimes it seems like women like being manipulated. I did a lot better with women when I used all this PUA stuff. My initial thought would be that a man surrounded by 3+ pretty women is waaay too busy for a relationship. But that's just me. I am hoping that a man who is genuinely interested in getting to know me, would make a concerted effort to find a little bit about me through mutual friends or new friends then ask me out. Again, I think I need things over simplified or I will miss all the 'signs' of interest. But kudos MisterZen that that works for you. I can see how it could
most_distant_galaxy Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Its basically reverse physiology. Mmmm... I love a man with a minus penis. Its basically reverse physiology. There are two things you have to do: 1. Have as many female friends as you can. Yes, "friends" who are women, but you don't date them. 2. Once you land a first date with a girl, tell her at some point during the date, that you really like her, but you think its best you stay friends for now because you want to get your life together. 3. Repeat. 1. I would assume that you have girly hobbies, such as shopping and nail art. 2. I would feel worried that you expect me to pay for dinner. 3. I would assume that you use me for getting introduced to male friends of mine. 4
littleblackheart Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I don't like manipulation. In any context. It's just greasy and underhanded. Being less available shouldn't be a tactic, it should be a side effect of a well-rounded life. Otherwise you're just pretending. I read The Game several years ago and the whole PUA scene seemed so fake. I don't doubt that some of it could work in a temporary way. That's fine I guess if that does it for you but if you want a gf and a good one (or what my idea of a good one is) it's not going to help that much. Agreed. Not only wanting to have more than one woman at any one time chase after you as a goal is going to hinder your chances of a healthy, long-term relationship, it's also going to make you very cynical. As an aside, I've had to research PUA and The Game because I had no clue what these meant - I now wish I hadn't.
travelbug1996 Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Nothing will ever make me chase or pursue a man. smmfh
StanMusial Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Agreed. Not only wanting to have more than one woman at any one time chase after you as a goal is going to hinder your chances of a healthy, long-term relationship, it's also going to make you very cynical. As an aside, I've had to research PUA and The Game because I had no clue what these meant - I now wish I hadn't. LOL it was interesting to read. They put all these funny little nicknames on behaviors and situations and tried to make this scientific system for picking up girls. Most of it was common sense. But I got the impression it was geared towards guys that were socially inept and probably played video games all night and slept half the day. Maybe they had so little going for them they had to learn to fake it. In one part of the book they threw a party and no girls were there LOL. That pretty much sums it up. 1
Author Mister Zen Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 Be that as it may, back in the day when the OP was a PUA he was meeting and dating countless attractive women. Somehow, somewhere, something went wrong and now he "doesn't do as well with women" Yep.. what "went wrong" is this: I don't like manipulation. In any context. It's just greasy and underhanded. Being less available shouldn't be a tactic, it should be a side effect of a well-rounded life. Otherwise you're just pretending. I read The Game several years ago and the whole PUA scene seemed so fake. I don't doubt that some of it could work in a temporary way. That's fine I guess if that does it for you but if you want a gf and a good one (or what my idea of a good one is) it's not going to help that much. I don't do as well with women by choice. Because I want something deep. I don't want to date anymore women I have nothing in common with who are only into me because of my PUA tactics. I still occasionally use them to get laid, but not for serious dating anymore.
Author Mister Zen Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 Nothing will ever make me chase or pursue a man. smmfh Are you into men?
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