Haydn Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Thats true, i sometimes work occasionally with a woman from Minsk. It seems that women have the most technical jobs there. In Belaruse more women hold jobs than men, what does that tell you about their dynamic? OP do your homework. She wants to get out of there and you're her ticket out.
Author Locust Posted October 11, 2014 Author Posted October 11, 2014 And you've now heard from two American women who tell you those are not requirements for them. My best friend is Russian and from what she tells me, although she is not this way herself, Russian women are mostly concerned about career and money. Belorussian and Russian are different people. Sure they both Slavic but they have different culture. So cannot say what a Russian does that a Belorussian will do.
quidproquo89 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 I wouldnt be surprised if after you are hooked on her, she asks you for 10 grand so "I can get my affairs in order and be with you" and if you send it, never hear from her again...Its a common scam..and almost happened to a guy I know.. TFY you'd have to pretty thick to fall for that one :S
yellow_sun Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Belorussian and Russian are different people. Sure they both Slavic but they have different culture. So cannot say what a Russian does that a Belorussian will do. True. But you're still ignoring my first comment.
Author Locust Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 True. But you're still ignoring my first comment. 10 Reasons Why Foreign Women Are Better Than American Women A guy had sent me this link. He dates a foreign woman from Vietnam. I personally cannot judge an American woman because I never dated one. Actually I never dated anybody. From what I had been told and read that women outside of the USA have lower standards. Of course there is some that only care about money but the numbers are small. Again this is information I read and been told and I even had seen videos about it. You may not care about man with career jobs but I heard the number of women here in US do is pretty high. Maybe I'm hearing the wrong statistics.
SawtoothMars Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 10 Reasons Why Foreign Women Are Better Than American Women A guy had sent me this link. He dates a foreign woman from Vietnam. I personally cannot judge an American woman because I never dated one. Actually I never dated anybody. From what I had been told and read that women outside of the USA have lower standards. Of course there is some that only care about money but the numbers are small. Again this is information I read and been told and I even had seen videos about it. You may not care about man with career jobs but I heard the number of women here in US do is pretty high. Maybe I'm hearing the wrong statistics. Look, if this lady seems to like you and you can afford to go visit her... then give it a shot. Women are pretty much women all around the world. I've spent the vast majority of my life dating American Women... and I've been married to one.... and I've dated some foreign women... and I AM married to one. Most foreign women actually have much higher standards they just seem to be less superficial.
thefooloftheyear Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 you'd have to pretty thick to fall for that one :S Dont be so sure.... Some people just believe in others, and dont assume that intentions are bad....She spent 6 months telling him how wonderful he is and sending him nude pics..I was told she(or whoever it was in the pics:laugh:) was pretty hot... Id bet that quite a few guys on this site would fall for it....Ladies too, if the roles were reversed.. TFY
SawtoothMars Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Dont be so sure.... Some people just believe in others, and dont assume that intentions are bad....She spent 6 months telling him how wonderful he is and sending him nude pics..I was told she(or whoever it was in the pics:laugh:) was pretty hot... Id bet that quite a few guys on this site would fall for it....Ladies too, if the roles were reversed.. TFY That scam is very old... from the early 1990's. Skype has kind of changed things and they can't play that game anymore.
SawtoothMars Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 I'm going to say one more thing on this topic before I bounce. In places like Eastern Europe and Asia there is a chunk of women who for whatever reason local guys don't really chase. In Japan it's all about cupie doll looking girls under 30. Those girls have zero... and I mean zero interest in foreign guys. Now the girls who don't get much play from the local guys (less attractive)... a portion of them are willing to look at guys from another country. I really don't think anyone should start trying to date foreign until they have some decent experience with local girls. You really don't want to dive into it with a quality woman and screw things up because your inexperienced.
carhill Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 As someone who dated FSU/CIS women and did have a sexual relationship with one, the quote below from the OP would be the basis of my single largest caution to them. I never had dated or been in a relationship Cross-cultural and long-distance relationships are very challenging, even for those with substantial relationship experience. While it's nice to feel some sort of connection, be cautious about putting emotional eggs in one long-distance basket. If the culture and country are of interest, no harm in visiting, with the possibility of an in-country friend as a side-benefit. Guard against inappropriate investments. I'll leave it at that. 2
Author Locust Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 From what people are saying I should stick with people local to me. However, I have not had any kind o attention like I did online from FDating website. But I do have a written profile and one photo.
Joaquin Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Why do you think Ms. Belarus is interested in you? A guy that hasn't any success with woman. Now this. Use your head here man. Your being reeled in like a fool. You'll piss away months or years on this. Invest your time in trying to meet someone that you could physically meet up with in real life within a reasonable period of time. Belarus! It's all too cliche! 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 From what people are saying I should stick with people local to me. However, I have not had any kind o attention like I did online from FDating website. But I do have a written profile and one photo. Well, I met someone from India online. Talked to her last year from January to about June. Skyped just once. She never asked for a dime from me, but she did eventually stop talking to me. I went with it because I was desperate for attention from a woman, any woman really. I don't have any luck with women, online or in person. So I understand the feeling.
Ninjainpajamas Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) "I met a young woman online from Belarus" Sounds the opening line of an old country/Johnny Cash country song.. *rubs chin* Well I met a young woman from a Belarus Who had a pretty face and a large caboose As soon as I saw her I was starring like a long neck goose *guitar riff* beedoop doop doop derr She was working at a bar and in i came With waddle in my step from a bad knee sprain that I got from tripping over my dog and falling downstairs *guitar riff* beedoop doop doop derr so i sat right down and before i could speak she said "what would you like" I said "just make it something sweet" so she served me a glass of Tennessee honey on the rocks *guitar riff* beedoop doop doop derr I said "miss i hope you don't mind, if i speak my mind.. but I don't think on this planet I could ever find.. a more beautiful looking woman than the one standing right there" *guitar riff* beedoop doop doop derr She said "that's mighty kind, but i hear that all the time" I said "wait just a minute, that isn't a line... If you give me a chance, I could possibly change your mind" *guitar riff* beedoop doop doop derr She thought for a minute and looked into my eyes then said "it's your lucky night, i get off work at a half past nine" i said "I'll see you then, I'll take you somewhere nice" and I knew in my heart that she was already mine So I ran to the truck and kicked out Buck saying "Get in the back boy, we've had some luck!" I opened the door and she got in, a little concerned and bit distressed *guitar riff* beedoop doop doop derr But I told her "don't you worry miss, I'll always treat you right" And we drove right out into the sunset on a warm summers night *guitar riff* beedoop doop doop derr And well, I can't talk much about what happened that night because 20 years later and she's still my wife... and that's the story about how I met the girl from Belarus Edited October 13, 2014 by Ninjainpajamas 2
Author Locust Posted October 13, 2014 Author Posted October 13, 2014 Well, I met someone from India online. Talked to her last year from January to about June. Skyped just once. She never asked for a dime from me, but she did eventually stop talking to me. I went with it because I was desperate for attention from a woman, any woman really. I don't have any luck with women, online or in person. So I understand the feeling. Actually that is why I signed up for FDating because I saw a Indian woman profile but smae thing happen to me like you. She just stop talking. I thought we would connect since I'm part Indian myself. I have been getting quite of few messages and profile views from women in Slavic countries. Knowing these women are messaging me first least show I'm somewhat desireable. Here local women are not into mixed Indian guys. Actually lot of local women don't like Indian guys which is why I think it contributes to part of my struggle. This is why I'm looking elsewhere. I been talking to this girl from Belarus for couple of months and I seriously doubt she is a scammer because if she wanted money she would have asked already.
Phoe Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 I got scammed by someone from Belarus. Not for dating, but just in general. Lost quite a bit of money. Belarus is quite notorious for scammers. But who knows. By the way, now here's me, the 3rd woman on this thread alone to say that she doesn't have the stereotyped "american high standards". Still believe foreign is your only option?
Blade96 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 aww that sucks Phoe. Sorry that happened. But it's why I am keeping an eye on my Mr. Belarus although I have known him since may and he never expressed a romantic interest in me til early July (when we get together) a scammer wants to be "intimate" rather quickly. I have my doubts that he is a scammer, I have a small group of Belarusians on my fb and Mr Belarus and I have mutual friends they are all well known in the arts of Belarus, for that and many other reasons, I doubt he's a scammer, but I don't have my head in the clouds. I still keep watch. P.S. Kinda off topic but responding to other post here: It does drive me nuts when I do explain to people that Russians aren't the same as Belarusians and even when I explain the differences they still say "It's all Russia to me!" arrrggghhhh *headbang and facepalm* 1
yellow_sun Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 10 Reasons Why Foreign Women Are Better Than American Women A guy had sent me this link. He dates a foreign woman from Vietnam. I personally cannot judge an American woman because I never dated one. Actually I never dated anybody. From what I had been told and read that women outside of the USA have lower standards. Of course there is some that only care about money but the numbers are small. Again this is information I read and been told and I even had seen videos about it. You may not care about man with career jobs but I heard the number of women here in US do is pretty high. Maybe I'm hearing the wrong statistics. This sounds like a fetish to me. The whole idea that non-American (actually, non-Western) women are more submissive, have lower standards, make better wives or girlfriends or whatever else you want to think about non-Western women is quite frankly a stereotype that verges on sexism and even racism in some instances. Women are women are women no matter where they come from. Each individual has her own preferences and personality and interests. Some like men with money. Some like men with muscles. Some like men who are smart. Some like men who are adventurous. This has NOTHING to do with nationality.
Author Locust Posted October 13, 2014 Author Posted October 13, 2014 This sounds like a fetish to me. The whole idea that non-American (actually, non-Western) women are more submissive, have lower standards, make better wives or girlfriends or whatever else you want to think about non-Western women is quite frankly a stereotype that verges on sexism and even racism in some instances. Women are women are women no matter where they come from. Each individual has her own preferences and personality and interests. Some like men with money. Some like men with muscles. Some like men who are smart. Some like men who are adventurous. This has NOTHING to do with nationality. I had looked at a You Tube video of women in these counties and they were interviewed asking what they looking for in a guy. Lot of them said good personality, smart, loyal, honest and funny. I cannot say all the women over there look for same thing but it seems different. After hearing 3 women here I guess I can try both at the same time foreign and American women.
Author Locust Posted October 14, 2014 Author Posted October 14, 2014 I'am a bit surprised couple women tried foreign dating as I would assume they should have men going after them. I also have interest in this girl is because she made the first move. It feels great that someone out there does have some kind of interest in you. Unfortunately, I cannot find that locally though. Its just the cost of going to Belarus to see this woman. If I had the money I would go over there.
carhill Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 If you don't have the money for such a relationship/potential, IMO be direct with the lady and let it go. IME, the sincere and honest ladies get pretty annoyed with keyboard romeos who don't have the wherewithal to travel. If you've been talking since July, your travel plans should already be firmed up, IMO. If it's a no-go, let her know. Please don't string her along.
Author Locust Posted October 14, 2014 Author Posted October 14, 2014 If you don't have the money for such a relationship/potential, IMO be direct with the lady and let it go. IME, the sincere and honest ladies get pretty annoyed with keyboard romeos who don't have the wherewithal to travel. If you've been talking since July, your travel plans should already be firmed up, IMO. If it's a no-go, let her know. Please don't string her along. I'll try to make it happen one day.
Author Locust Posted October 15, 2014 Author Posted October 15, 2014 If you don't have the money for such a relationship/potential, IMO be direct with the lady and let it go. IME, the sincere and honest ladies get pretty annoyed with keyboard romeos who don't have the wherewithal to travel. If you've been talking since July, your travel plans should already be firmed up, IMO. If it's a no-go, let her know. Please don't string her along. I actually don't want to let it go as this my only time in my life that someone has slightest interest. Sometime you have to make a sacrifice to make something happen, which means in this case I will have to save up to go see her. How often I have a girl here approach me? Zero times! When I was in community college I had interest in a few girls but they either never found interest or they were already taken. If I do have a girl approach me or talk to me is because she needs me for something like her help her with homework or some other favor. All my life that is all I'm good for but now since I met this person online I least do have some hope that someone actually would be romantically interested in me. I would be willing to spend $ 2,500 to visit her. Women here just don't like me and that is something I learn to accept and the list is too long to go through. I few women on here said they don't have demands I listed in my original post, but it still makes no difference if I'm a desirable person or not. Being 28 years old and still single, never dated my whole life tells me I'm not desirable. This is why I'm attempting to give up on women in America and try women from another country. Maybe I could try Thailand too.
Cristo Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I actually don't want to let it go as this my only time in my life that someone has slightest interest. Sometime you have to make a sacrifice to make something happen, which means in this case I will have to save up to go see her. How often I have a girl here approach me? Zero times! When I was in community college I had interest in a few girls but they either never found interest or they were already taken. If I do have a girl approach me or talk to me is because she needs me for something like her help her with homework or some other favor. All my life that is all I'm good for but now since I met this person online I least do have some hope that someone actually would be romantically interested in me. I would be willing to spend $ 2,500 to visit her. Women here just don't like me and that is something I learn to accept and the list is too long to go through. I few women on here said they don't have demands I listed in my original post, but it still makes no difference if I'm a desirable person or not. Being 28 years old and still single, never dated my whole life tells me I'm not desirable. This is why I'm attempting to give up on women in America and try women from another country. Maybe I could try Thailand too. I've dated women in Thailand (as well as many other countries). It is a fantastic idea. BUT (and this is a big but) if you are inexperienced with women, I strongly suggest that you either gain experience with them in the US or go live in that country for a while and gain experience there. These women can be very cunning and it will take a good eye to discern the good ones from the bad. Yes, there are good women out there for sure that will date you regardless of your looks and status. But there are also many bad ones. So be careful.
Cristo Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 This sounds like a fetish to me. The whole idea that non-American (actually, non-Western) women are more submissive, have lower standards, make better wives or girlfriends or whatever else you want to think about non-Western women is quite frankly a stereotype that verges on sexism and even racism in some instances. Women are women are women no matter where they come from. Each individual has her own preferences and personality and interests. Some like men with money. Some like men with muscles. Some like men who are smart. Some like men who are adventurous. This has NOTHING to do with nationality. This is not true in my experience when dating non-western women. They have a different mindset. Ultimately, there are pros and cons to both, but, in general, they are different.
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