CaliGuy Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 In my opinion man, I never go for taken girls. Why? Unnecessary drama and I'm hurting someone else (the boyfriend). I know you don't know him nor do most people care, but having been in the shoes of the guy who has had his heart ripped out over cheating, I just think that it would be hypocritical of me to contribute that to someone else. With that said, if you do it, I don't judge you nor am I going to say you are wrong. My only thought is that there is tons and tons of single girls out there, why are you going to go and be the guy who sleeps with this girl? Chances are this chick is going to go off with some other dude and bang him too but at a very least it doesn't have to be you. It's called mutual respect. Something this country has been lacking for oh, say 50 years....
Adele0908 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Hmmm. I read this and thought you must be an attractive guy I think you should enjoy your time with this woman.
NJ123 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 So many people lurking these forums with absolutely no morals at all. It boggles my ****ing mind. It's a sad world we're living in today & doesn't surprise me why most relationships/marriages don't work out. 1
CaliGuy Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 So many people lurking these forums with absolutely no morals at all. It boggles my ****ing mind. It's a sad world we're living in today & doesn't surprise me why most relationships/marriages don't work out. The "Me Me Me" generation who has grown up with the "Morals and Integrity mean nothing" generation.... Too bad in the end, these ME ME ME people end up crying, lying and wallowing in their own pool of crapulence....
NJ123 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 The "Me Me Me" generation who has grown up with the "Morals and Integrity mean nothing" generation.... Too bad in the end, these ME ME ME people end up crying, lying and wallowing in their own pool of crapulence.... It's just scary knowing how many people would cheat without any guilt at all. And than a lot of them don't even tell & still **** their bf/gf/husband/wife & can have risk of STDs. It's so ****ing disgusting. The excuse for the person not involved in the relationship usually is if it's not me it'll be someone else. But why would you want to be the one to ruin the other person in the relationship's life? And sometimes these things don't end well at all. Some people go after the person & it could end very ugly. I know of someone where his friend got killed over having sex with a woman whom I believed was either engaged or married. The guy shot him right in his car.
CaliGuy Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 It's just scary knowing how many people would cheat without any guilt at all. And than a lot of them don't even tell & still **** their bf/gf/husband/wife & can have risk of STDs. It's so ****ing disgusting. The excuse for the person not involved in the relationship usually is if it's not me it'll be someone else. But why would you want to be the one to ruin the other person in the relationship's life? And sometimes these things don't end well at all. Some people go after the person & it could end very ugly. I know of someone where his friend got killed over having sex with a woman whom I believed was either engaged or married. The guy shot him right in his car. If you have self-respect and integrity, you don't cheat. You tell them "Im done" first BEFORE you pick up that STD. 2
mightycpa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) OK, we seem to have devolved into a discussion about what is right and what is wrong without really considering that the woman in question is actually a trollop or just simple-minded. If she's just naive, then there isn't really a problem. They will play a game of pool, and when OP wants to make a move, she will resist him of her own accord. So for the sake of argument, let's assume she's a trollop. She's engaged to a Marine for some reason other than true love ( the money, his dick length or girth, his loyalty, whatever). She meets OP, and she thinks he'd look good in her. What to do, kiddies? What to do? One side says that it is the OP's problem. He has this woman who wants something from him, we'll assume sex, and she will either use him and abuse him, or substitute him for the Marine. If she uses him with the intention of discarding him, it is difficult for me to see his obligation. But if she sees him as a substitute, then maybe he has an obligation to a man he's never met. Another side says that this is the fiance's problem. It is her responsibility to the Marine, not the OP. If she is willing to betray her fiance, then screwing her deep into to the wall is an acceptable behavior. This might be true love, and so all is fair in love and war. What to do, kiddies, what to do? Let's take this baby and split it in half. OP should ask her to text or email the Marine and tell him that isn't him, it's her. She's not ready for a relationship yet. She loves him, but she's not in love with him. She thinks they need to see other people. Then OP can bang her like a drum in clear conscience. If she agrees, then this is just another DEAR JOHN letter. But if she refuses, OP now has to decide whether he has any fealty to the Marine. His choices are: He could discard her before he bangs her. He could bang this chick for a while, then discard her. or He could bang her until just before Marine comes home, then discard her or He could be the backdoor man, and only bang her when Marine is not around. There is no right or wrong here. There is only what is good for the Marine, and what isn't. He is the only one who doesn't have all the facts. Consequently, the correct course of action for OP is as follows: 1) Bang the living daylights out of this girl - because if OP doesn't do it, somebody else will 2) Keep banging her until Marine returns - because otherwise, he won't be able to warn the Marine 3) The night before his return, give her a great big hickey on her neck, and the part of her inner thigh where it meets the 'taint. 4) Bolt, and never return. Edited October 4, 2014 by mightycpa
CaliGuy Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 There is no right or wrong here. There is only what is good for the Marine, and what isn't. He is the only one who doesn't have all the facts. Consequently, the correct course of action for OP is as follows: WRONG, WRONG, WRONG AGAIN! DAMMIT! There IS indeed a right or wrong, in the hands of the engaged woman who is confused or just seems to not GIVE A DAMN about her fiance. The Marine has no idea WTH is gong on. SHE DOES! SO STOP STOP STOP saying there is no right or wrong. The RIGHT thing to do is plainly obvious. I have no idea why myopic people post this nonsense on the forums. You ALL have a hard time determining what is right or wrong and it's people like that who are destroying American society. You all are unethical and absolutely selfish to not have the wherewithal to determine what is indeed right or wrong. A sad state of this country! Frikken -- SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH!!! 1
mightycpa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 WRONG, WRONG, WRONG AGAIN! DAMMIT! You're right. Actually, I was about to correct this. There is no right or wrong for the OP. He has zero obligation to the Marine. Any heads up from him is an act of charity, not obligation. He should probably make his best effort to inform the Marine, but the relationship is hers, not his. The Marine and his fiance have the bond. It is her obligation to the Marine to conduct as she will. They are the ones who are Semper Fi, or not. The friend of the enemy who claims to be your friend is not your friend.
NJ123 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 You're right. Actually, I was about to correct this. There is no right or wrong for the OP. He has zero obligation to the Marine. Any heads up from him is an act of charity, not obligation. He should probably make his best effort to inform the Marine, but the relationship is hers, not his. The Marine and his fiance have the bond. It is her obligation to the Marine to conduct as she will. They are the ones who are Semper Fi, or not. The friend of the enemy who claims to be your friend is not your friend. I doubt you'd be saying the same thing if some guy you never met banged your wife/girlfriend. How would you feel if that happened to you? You have this extremely selfish view for some reason because it doesn't affect you. But if it happened to you your whole view would change completely. Like CaliGuy said we're living in an extremely selfish society today.
CaliGuy Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 The Marine and his fiance have the bond. It is her obligation to the Marine to conduct as she will. They are the ones who are Semper Fi, or not. Thank you..... but she has an obligation to the Marine to be up front and honest about WTH is going on.
mightycpa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I doubt you'd be saying the same thing if some guy you never met banged your wife/girlfriend. How would you feel if that happened to you? You have this extremely selfish view for some reason because it doesn't affect you. But if it happened to you your whole view would change completely. Like CaliGuy said we're living in an extremely selfish society today. You're wrong. I wouldn't blame him at all.
mightycpa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Thank you..... but she has an obligation to the Marine to be up front and honest about WTH is going on.Yep. No argument there. I think that is beyond obvious.
NJ123 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 You're wrong. I wouldn't blame him at all. Really you wouldn't? It takes 2 people to cheat. The OP would be just as much to blame in this situation since he admits right in his post that "I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING IS WRONG BUT I CAN'T RESIST HER". He doesn't give a **** about the marine since he knows what he's doing is wrong but still will **** her if he has the chance. Wouldn't that bother you if some random guy banged your fiance even if he knew she was with you? I get you'd blame your fiance more, but the other guy plays a huge role in the blame too if he knows she's seeing someone. It shows low morals, and that type of person would highly likely cheat in a relationship. The only way I wouldn't blame the other guy is if he genuinely has no idea she's with anyone. 1
mightycpa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Really you wouldn't? It takes 2 people to cheat. The OP would be just as much to blame in this situation since he admits right in his post that "I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING IS WRONG BUT I CAN'T RESIST HER". He doesn't give a **** about the marine since he knows what he's doing is wrong but still will **** her if he has the chance. Wouldn't that bother you if some random guy banged your fiance even if he knew she was with you? I get you'd blame your fiance more, but the other guy plays a huge role in the blame too if he knows she's seeing someone. It shows low morals, and that type of person would highly likely cheat in a relationship. The only way I wouldn't blame the other guy is if he genuinely has no idea she's with anyone. He may think it is wrong, but that's his opinion. Of course, it would bother me, but I would not blame the guy. I deal in attractive women, so of course people want to bang them. DUH! That's a given. I don't place my trust in strangers. How can a stranger betray me? I place my trust in the people that I've built trust with, not those who I imagine have some bond to me. Edited October 4, 2014 by mightycpa
NJ123 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 He may think it is wrong, but that's his opinion. Of course, it would bother me, but I would not blame the guy. I deal in attractive women, so of course people want to bang them. DUH! That's a given. I don't place my trust in strangers. How can a stranger betray me? I place my trust in the people that I've built trust with, not those who I imagine have some bond to me. Well, that's your opinion. But to me if the guy knowingly knew my girlfriend/wife was with me I'd blame him as well but obviously not as much as I'd blame my girlfriend/wife. What if this other guy was an acquaintance of yours? Would you not blame them either since they have no obligation to your relationship? Only if it was a stranger you wouldn't blame them? Also, how about if you had kids & the guy knew? You still wouldn't blame him? I highly doubt it if you were put in that position you wouldn't have some anger & blame towards the other guy who is a home wrecker even if you didn't know them. 1
boilingpoint Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Well, that's your opinion. But to me if the guy knowingly knew my girlfriend/wife was with me I'd blame him as well but obviously not as much as I'd blame my girlfriend/wife. What if this other guy was an acquaintance of yours? Would you not blame them either since they have no obligation to your relationship? Only if it was a stranger you wouldn't blame them? Also, how about if you had kids & the guy knew? You still wouldn't blame him? I highly doubt it if you were put in that position you wouldn't have some anger & blame towards the other guy who is a home wrecker even if you didn't know them. You and Caliguy need to stop hijacking this thread with moralising and laments on the terrible state of humanity these days... OP asked a SPECIFIC question and you believe he should not go near the girl to protect his integrity. I disagree that his integrity would be in question here, but that's your stand and you've made it clear. Edited October 4, 2014 by boilingpoint
No Limit Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 i can't resist her When my dog was a young puppy, she too couldn't resist stuff like chewing everything up. I disciplined her and today she chews on cushions we bought her and a few toys. Perhaps you should discipline yourself and get a single girl. On the other hand, from your posts I gather you are just looking for a ONS or FWB thing rather than a relationship. Or are no single people into you? 1
CaliGuy Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) You and Caliguy need to stop hijacking this thread with moralising and laments on the terrible state of humanity these days... OP asked a SPECIFIC question and you believe he should not go near the girl to protect his integrity. I disagree that his integrity would be in question here, but that's your stand and you've made it clear. Unless you're a forum moderator, you're in no position to tell people stop posting their opinions. It's an open forum and if you disagree, post your rebuttal. Edited October 4, 2014 by CaliGuy 1
NJ123 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 You and Caliguy need to stop hijacking this thread with moralising and laments on the terrible state of humanity these days... OP asked a SPECIFIC question and you believe he should not go near the girl to protect his integrity. I disagree that his integrity would be in question here, but that's your stand and you've made it clear. Well obviously you don't seem to have any morals either if you don't think the OP is wrong in any way. How can some of you even say that? It just boggles my mind seriously that some of you wouldn't have any ounce of guilt for doing something like that. What if their was kids involved? Would YOU want to be the one to destroy the kids lives. If it's not wrong would you be able to look the kids in the eye & tell them your part of the reason why mom & dad aren't together anymore? But everyone always justifies it with if it's not me it'll be someone else. That's just a ****ed up mentality to have. 1
Diezel Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I am pretty sure that this woman played the "engaged" card as a way to keep a safe distance in case she doesn't want to pursue this. It could very well be her version of Friendzoning the OP. The fact that she waited til AFTER she got his number, was very telling. She could just be after attention and nothing more. OP is in for a world of emotional hurt.
bubbaganoosh Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Ya know, when it was mentioned that her fiance or soon to be fiance was deployed and I got triggered. I was deployed. Not recently but back in 1967 and my fiance decided to forget that she was engaged and go her worthless ass knocked up and blamed me. I married her thinking the kid was mine and found out two weeks later that it wasn't. She used me to get a dependent ID card and Uncle Sam paid of everything and the bum that knocked her up got away Scot free while I played the fool and it tore me apart. Best thing I can tell you is put yourself in the marines shoes and see if you would like it if someone was messing with your fiance. Truth be told, she's a piss poor excuse of a fiance and your a piss poor excuse of a man if you go after her. 1
No Limit Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Ya know, when it was mentioned that her fiance or soon to be fiance was deployed and I got triggered. I was deployed. Not recently but back in 1967 and my fiance decided to forget that she was engaged and go her worthless ass knocked up and blamed me. I married her thinking the kid was mine and found out two weeks later that it wasn't. She used me to get a dependent ID card and Uncle Sam paid of everything and the bum that knocked her up got away Scot free while I played the fool and it tore me apart. Best thing I can tell you is put yourself in the marines shoes and see if you would like it if someone was messing with your fiance. Truth be told, she's a piss poor excuse of a fiance and your a piss poor excuse of a man if you go after her. At least you found out. There are a few million men who don't. Please tell me you don't have to pay her any alimony though...
bubbaganoosh Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 At least you found out. There are a few million men who don't. Please tell me you don't have to pay her any alimony though... No. She didn't want me to have any parts of the child. All she wanted was a "freebie to pay for the costs. As soon as we were divorced, she married the guy and her lawyer contacted me to give up my rights as the father. I signed the proper paper work and and the bum adopted him. Funny. Adopting your own child. Ain't that a kick in the head.
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