So I'm the other women....I feel lost

[Redheaded Mistress]

I don't know what he wants. I'm not even totally sure I know what I do or don't want anymore. One moment I think we've run our course and then the next I can also glimpse a future.

 

Objectively, all emotions removed, go on what he says. If he says there is nothing and he wants nothing, go with that. You can talk to him to see if feelings have changed or things have changed, but until then, go by what he says.

 

This is absolutely my Guy! He's always so upbeat & outgoing, normally holding court in a crowd and never without a massive grin. I know people think they're the perfect family..well at least a family who've been dealt a hard hand and are getting by and doing with a smile. Sometimes, well most of the time, that's the version of him I get too, but sometimes he just wants to talk. He's never ever run his wife down to me, if anything he bigs her up.

I still remember sitting on the beach a month or so ago and him telling me like "People told be I was brave when I went in the forces but its easy to be brave when you know someones got your back etc etc, she was always the strong one, she was the one who held us together pulled us through etc etc, I'm trying to hold it together now, but im not as strong as her, its all slipping out my hands, I need her etc etc" I remember him looking at me and saying "I cant do it without her, why cant she see how much I need her" and he was genuinely choked up. I said to him then like that that's all understandable but then what are we (though obviously I said it nicer than that) and he instantly switched back to normal and was all 'Whatever you want Abby, I loved today, blah blah blah'.

At the time I was so caught up in it, but when I look back at what 'today' was it was having a laugh windsurfing followed by talking about how he felt about his marriage - It makes me think he doesn't feel like I do, it makes me wonder if he wants a 'friend' more than a 'girlfriend' and with a clear head I know that's not me, I cant be his friend, I like him too much for one thing, and there's too much chemistry between us. And I can see that having an affair when I love him and whatever he feels for me he also clearly loves his wife and family, isn't a recipe for a happy ending. But then when I'm with him.. all the doubt fades and I'm like well i'll just do this or we'll just do that and I never end it..

I feel like i'm rambling now, sorry

 

Ramble away, I'm here to listen and I don't judge anybody.

 

Does it sound like he's grieving for a relationship he feels like he's lost, that he wants back, simply venting, or maybe expressing his desire for closure with her?

[jellybean89]

I don't know what he wants. I'm not even totally sure I know what I do or don't want anymore. One moment I think we've run our course and then the next I can also glimpse a future.

 

there is no future of him and you!!! He's married! He has a wife he loves, kids he loves.

 

This is absolutely my Guy! He's always so upbeat & outgoing, normally holding court in a crowd and never without a massive grin. I know people think they're the perfect family..well at least a family who've been dealt a hard hand and are getting by and doing with a smile. Sometimes, well most of the time, that's the version of him I get too, but sometimes he just wants to talk. He's never ever run his wife down to me, if anything he bigs her up.

I still remember sitting on the beach a month or so ago and him telling me like "People told be I was brave when I went in the forces but its easy to be brave when you know someones got your back etc etc, she was always the strong one, she was the one who held us together pulled us through etc etc, I'm trying to hold it together now, but im not as strong as her, its all slipping out my hands, I need her etc etc" I remember him looking at me and saying "I cant do it without her, why cant she see how much I need her" and he was genuinely choked up. I said to him then like that that's all understandable but then what are we (though obviously I said it nicer than that) and he instantly switched back to normal and was all 'Whatever you want Abby, I loved today, blah blah blah'.

 

he loves his wife and needs his wife. She is struggling with a mental disorder. She can't make it go away. He wants his life with her. How can you not see that? He is telling you he wants her...believe him!

 

At the time I was so caught up in it, but when I look back at what 'today' was it was having a laugh windsurfing followed by talking about how he felt about his marriage - It makes me think he doesn't feel like I do, it makes me wonder if he wants a 'friend' more than a 'girlfriend' and with a clear head I know that's not me, I cant be his friend, I like him too much for one thing, and there's too much chemistry between us. And I can see that having an affair when I love him and whatever he feels for me he also clearly loves his wife and family, isn't a recipe for a happy ending. But then when I'm with him.. all the doubt fades and I'm like well i'll just do this or we'll just do that and I never end it..

I feel like i'm rambling now, sorry

 

Thank you. I know your right, deep down I know all of that is right. I think we're both hurting 5 people tbh and that was never what I wanted. I just trying to find it in me to do cause I will miss him..

 

you aren't his girlfriend. MM can't have girlfriends...they have wives. He sees you as a friend, with benefits, yet you are way more into him than he is into you. He is a grown up with a wife and 2 kids...you are a very young girl who has zero responsibilities. Don't make yourself another responsibility for him. Tell him you are too attached and you need to find someone unattached (not married) and wish him the best and then stop communicating with him. You will hate yourself when this all blows up, and it eventually will

[thekid36]

Objectively, all emotions removed, go on what he says. If he says there is nothing and he wants nothing, go with that. You can talk to him to see if feelings have changed or things have changed, but until then, go by what he says.

 

 

 

Ramble away, I'm here to listen and I don't judge anybody.

 

Does it sound like he's grieving for a relationship he feels like he's lost, that he wants back, simply venting, or maybe expressing his desire for closure with her?

 

 

I do think that it is not all about what someone says. Actions still mean quite a lot. Hard to even trust someone who you barely even really know at all. You only know the good side of him at this point. All he seems to suggest sounds as if there is a lot of confliction. Yet, he is still with his other half. This is the most important fact of all. One which may not ever completely change. If he truly cared about you at this point, then that would involve letting go of what is on the side. Until he definitively decides what is really wanted on his end. This is true even if he thinks to love you back if I am honest. Sometimes, caring about someone may just mean letting go.

 

 

Now, if you were only looking for something casual, then perhaps it would all be a mute point. Yet, you seem to want a relationship with someone. It is not possible with someone who cannot give you all of himself. Despite the fact that you think to love him. Or, even though he may totally want to. Want and what is actual reality are not always the same thing. Thus, you are doomed to not get what is deserved if you choose staying. Just need faith that some things are not meant to happen.

[Abigale]

Even though you did not really reply to my last post, I still will try to respond in a helpful way here. Just the fact that you say this is "your guy" really worries me. Because, this is not your man at all. You are living within a fantasy. Never going to get what you ultimately want. He is being nothing other than selfish every single time he talks with you. Has a family he is still with. Let him decide to leave them if he really has the desire putting your needs first. Whether or not he is a good guy or not. Even if he does decide to stay for the kids. You deserve someone who will give you his full attention. Not a person who is not even available. Cannot sacrifice your own deserved happiness just because of the unfortunate situation of someone else.

Sorry! Yeah, I know he's not really my guy, he's more her guy I guess, but I struggled over what to type there, in most part because most of the time I struggle to define what kind of relationship we have at all sometimes its like a physical affair or an emotional affair and other times its more like friends.

 

 

Objectively, all emotions removed, go on what he says. If he says there is nothing and he wants nothing, go with that. You can talk to him to see if feelings have changed or things have changed, but until then, go by what he says.

 

Ramble away, I'm here to listen and I don't judge anybody.

Thank you

 

Does it sound like he's grieving for a relationship he feels like he's lost, that he wants back, simply venting, or maybe expressing his desire for closure with her?

Hmm I think.... I think sometimes I'm his sounding board, I get the impression he doesn't tell like his guy friends that he's finding it hard, he's the guy that everyone else goes to ask for a favour/for help, I don't think he tells anyone when he's struggling, so he tells me.

If I'm being really honest, emotions of the table, then I believe he wants her to snap out of it & take back the reins.

Obviously you can't just snap out of a condition like that, so in the early days of our relationship I saw more of a chance for a future for us, but recently I have doubted that more and more, I think seeing them at the wedding was a massive wake up call for me. I was on the brides side (a friend), he was on the grooms side (his wife being the grooms cousin) the bride and groom had been together when they were young, split up and got back together much later in life, they had this slideshow of pictures of their life together, one that caught my eye was the 16 year old bride and groom and standing next to them was my AP, and his now wife, they were outside a house all dressed up for prom - everyone was looking at the camera except for him, he was looking at her, in a way most 16 year old boys would look at the world cup trophy, and then when I looked over at them he was giving her the exact same look, all those years later. That was when all I could think was literally "**** he loves her! **** what am I doing? ****" and I had to go out side for some fresh air. Because as strongly as I feel for him, I don't want to be the reason they split up.. it was easier when id never met his wife, but after seeing him laughing with her, dancing with her, looking at her life that, even after all the difficulties he's told me about, it makes me feel like a really horrible person to want that. I never wanted to tear apart a family that had been through enough, I just fell in love with him.

 

 

you aren't his girlfriend. MM can't have girlfriends...they have wives. He sees you as a friend, with benefits, yet you are way more into him than he is into you. He is a grown up with a wife and 2 kids...you are a very young girl who has zero responsibilities. Don't make yourself another responsibility for him. Tell him you are too attached and you need to find someone unattached (not married) and wish him the best and then stop communicating with him. You will hate yourself when this all blows up, and it eventually will

Theres none of that that I deny. But doing it's harder than knowing it.

[Redheaded Mistress]

Hmm I think.... I think sometimes I'm his sounding board, I get the impression he doesn't tell like his guy friends that he's finding it hard, he's the guy that everyone else goes to ask for a favour/for help, I don't think he tells anyone when he's struggling, so he tells me.

If I'm being really honest, emotions of the table, then I believe he wants her to snap out of it & take back the reins.

Obviously you can't just snap out of a condition like that, so in the early days of our relationship I saw more of a chance for a future for us, but recently I have doubted that more and more, I think seeing them at the wedding was a massive wake up call for me. I was on the brides side (a friend), he was on the grooms side (his wife being the grooms cousin) the bride and groom had been together when they were young, split up and got back together much later in life, they had this slideshow of pictures of their life together, one that caught my eye was the 16 year old bride and groom and standing next to them was my AP, and his now wife, they were outside a house all dressed up for prom - everyone was looking at the camera except for him, he was looking at her, in a way most 16 year old boys would look at the world cup trophy, and then when I looked over at them he was giving her the exact same look, all those years later. That was when all I could think was literally "**** he loves her! **** what am I doing? ****" and I had to go out side for some fresh air. Because as strongly as I feel for him, I don't want to be the reason they split up.. it was easier when id never met his wife, but after seeing him laughing with her, dancing with her, looking at her life that, even after all the difficulties he's told me about, it makes me feel like a really horrible person to want that. I never wanted to tear apart a family that had been through enough, I just fell in love with him.

 

So talking that out, does it kind of ground your emotions a bit? Sometimes talking it out, seeing it written down, it can help you really snap your brain out of emotion and into fact.

 

If you truly feel like you don't want him to leave his family for you or to have his family break up for or over you, maybe you should express that to him. Then maybe you can be that sounding board one last time and say that his fixing what he wants with her isn't done effectively by turning to you and ask him to really see how with you not wanting to be the reason behind a split puts you in a bind. Then, be honest, explain how what you saw at the wedding changed your mind and, if you're up to it, encourage him to go back. But at the very least, if you don't encourage him to go back, just tell him the ol' "you don't have to go home but you can't stay here" understanding.

 

It really sounds like you want out and you feel that staying is a failing in your character, so for your own sanity, you need to do what will help you. If this is what will help you, then find some strength to let go.

 

But either way, stop beating yourself up. There are worse things in the world then falling for somebody without meaning to and having an affair and that one act doesn't define the whole of who you are. Remember, just like one good act doesn't make a bad person good, a few mistakes doesn't make a good person bad... Especially if after introspection you say that you feel it's bad, it makes you feel bad, and you want better... And despite the grief you seem to be getting on here, there's absolutely nothing wrong with admitting all of that and asking for help on how to implement it.

 

Cheer up! You'll get there!

[thekid36]

Sorry! Yeah, I know he's not really my guy, he's more her guy I guess, but I struggled over what to type there, in most part because most of the time I struggle to define what kind of relationship we have at all sometimes its like a physical affair or an emotional affair and other times its more like friends.

 

 

 

Thank you

 

 

Hmm I think.... I think sometimes I'm his sounding board, I get the impression he doesn't tell like his guy friends that he's finding it hard, he's the guy that everyone else goes to ask for a favour/for help, I don't think he tells anyone when he's struggling, so he tells me.

If I'm being really honest, emotions of the table, then I believe he wants her to snap out of it & take back the reins.

Obviously you can't just snap out of a condition like that, so in the early days of our relationship I saw more of a chance for a future for us, but recently I have doubted that more and more, I think seeing them at the wedding was a massive wake up call for me. I was on the brides side (a friend), he was on the grooms side (his wife being the grooms cousin) the bride and groom had been together when they were young, split up and got back together much later in life, they had this slideshow of pictures of their life together, one that caught my eye was the 16 year old bride and groom and standing next to them was my AP, and his now wife, they were outside a house all dressed up for prom - everyone was looking at the camera except for him, he was looking at her, in a way most 16 year old boys would look at the world cup trophy, and then when I looked over at them he was giving her the exact same look, all those years later. That was when all I could think was literally "**** he loves her! **** what am I doing? ****" and I had to go out side for some fresh air. Because as strongly as I feel for him, I don't want to be the reason they split up.. it was easier when id never met his wife, but after seeing him laughing with her, dancing with her, looking at her life that, even after all the difficulties he's told me about, it makes me feel like a really horrible person to want that. I never wanted to tear apart a family that had been through enough, I just fell in love with him.

 

 

 

Theres none of that that I deny. But doing it's harder than knowing it.

 

 

Here is the thing though. He is not your man at all. It already is a physical affair. Based solely on the fact you both have had sex. Which was an incredibly selfish choice of his to be honest. Just basically wanted what he did at the time without any sense of responsibility nor even permanent thought. Seems as if the physical part attached you to him even more. In an emotional way I mean. There are too many people being affected here. The technical definition of what you think he is really does not matter much. Any further involvement with this man will prove to makes things even worse.

[sunburned]

Abby, you mentioned this guy is really good looking. I'm going to guess you're a beautiful young woman yourself. It's kind of hard to be otherwise at 24, but anyway ...

 

 

Your sexual currency is never going to be higher unless perhaps you further your education. What I mean is this is the period of your life where you should be doing some serious dating. You're young, not a big hurry but not a time of your life you want to be squandering either. And trust me, you are whether you realize it now or not. Are you planning to make a career of being a bar maid? Use this time without a husband and children to look after to take care of yourself. Go back to school, find a career you love and establish yourself. You'll be too busy and preoccupied to think about MM. And, at the end, you'll have promising career and not a broken heart. By that time, you'll be 26? 27? 28? Still young and beautiful but with even more to offer an available guy.

 

 

You may have a succession of other relationships that don't work out, but let them not work out for the right reasons: incompatibility, distance, interests. Don't seek a relationship that's doomed from the start because the guy is married to another. If nothing else, he has been honest with you. He loves his W. He's not leaving. Remind me again why don't you believe him.

[Abigale]

So talking that out, does it kind of ground your emotions a bit? Sometimes talking it out, seeing it written down, it can help you really snap your brain out of emotion and into fact.

Yeah it did actually! Its difficult when your in a relationship you cant like ever talk about.. everything gets mixed up going round in my head.

 

If you truly feel like you don't want him to leave his family for you or to have his family break up for or over you, maybe you should express that to him. Then maybe you can be that sounding board one last time and say that his fixing what he wants with her isn't done effectively by turning to you and ask him to really see how with you not wanting to be the reason behind a split puts you in a bind. Then, be honest, explain how what you saw at the wedding changed your mind and, if you're up to it, encourage him to go back. But at the very least, if you don't encourage him to go back, just tell him the ol' "you don't have to go home but you can't stay here" understanding.

 

It really sounds like you want out and you feel that staying is a failing in your character, so for your own sanity, you need to do what will help you. If this is what will help you, then find some strength to let go.

 

But either way, stop beating yourself up. There are worse things in the world then falling for somebody without meaning to and having an affair and that one act doesn't define the whole of who you are. Remember, just like one good act doesn't make a bad person good, a few mistakes doesn't make a good person bad... Especially if after introspection you say that you feel it's bad, it makes you feel bad, and you want better... And despite the grief you seem to be getting on here, there's absolutely nothing wrong with admitting all of that and asking for help on how to implement it.

 

Cheer up! You'll get there!

Thank you! Genuinely! I'm thinking that this is something that I'm going to, particularly now that however much I love being with him, there's a hell of a lot of time when I'm not with him and in that time I am finding that I'm beating myself up over this and I know that isnt sustainable!

 

 

 

 

Are you planning to make a career of being a bar maid? Use this time without a husband and children to look after to take care of yourself. Go back to school, find a career you love and establish yourself. You'll be too busy and preoccupied to think about MM

Noooo - as much as I do love the smell of spilt beer and chip fat I'm at college part time, but I have to work almost full time cause I have to pay the bills. I'm training to be a blacksmith

 

If nothing else, he has been honest with you. He loves his W. He's not leaving. Remind me again why don't you believe him.

I don't not believe him. It's just hard to walk away from someone you love, regardless.

[thekid36]

Yeah it did actually! Its difficult when your in a relationship you cant like ever talk about.. everything gets mixed up going round in my head.

 

 

Thank you! Genuinely! I'm thinking that this is something that I'm going to, particularly now that however much I love being with him, there's a hell of a lot of time when I'm not with him and in that time I am finding that I'm beating myself up over this and I know that isnt sustainable!

 

 

 

 

 

Noooo - as much as I do love the smell of spilt beer and chip fat I'm at college part time, but I have to work almost full time cause I have to pay the bills. I'm training to be a blacksmith

 

 

I don't not believe him. It's just hard to walk away from someone you love, regardless.

 

 

You are not in a relationship with this man. He is not actually available. A relationship would suggest that there is a sense of exclusivity. You are maybe in love with the idea of him. Perhaps, you are in love with only the best parts he has to offer. He shows you only the sides he wants to. It is because of him wanting something back from you. What he is evidently not actually getting at home. Sorry for being so blunt. Just trying to also be honest. Like I have tried to suggest. The sooner you leave will be better.

[Redheaded Mistress]

Yeah it did actually! Its difficult when your in a relationship you cant like ever talk about.. everything gets mixed up going round in my head.

 

I totally understand. That's why sometimes it's helpful to have a sounding board. A lot of the times you have all the answers you need within you, you just need an ear to hear you talk it out. I'm glad I could help you out.

 

 

Thank you! Genuinely! I'm thinking that this is something that I'm going to, particularly now that however much I love being with him, there's a hell of a lot of time when I'm not with him and in that time I am finding that I'm beating myself up over this and I know that isnt sustainable!

 

No, it's not something you can sustain in yourself, and you shouldn't have to, not just because everybody makes mistakes or does things that make them unhappy, but because you have thought about what's making you unhappy and why, and you're making the changes to fix it. It's a brave first step!

 

Remember, it's not going to be easy and you'll doubt you're making the right choice in ending your relationship. If there's nobody there to talk you through it, talk yourself through it. Write notes now while you've got resolve, re-read them when you don't. Or send me a message and if I'm around, we can work it out.

 

In the end, make your choice for you. Whatever happens in your relationship with him, make sure you're doing it for you and your health, sanity, and peace of mind.

 

 

Noooo - as much as I do love the smell of spilt beer and chip fat I'm at college part time, but I have to work almost full time cause I have to pay the bills. I'm training to be a blacksmith

 

Wow, that's actually really cool!

 

I don't not believe him. It's just hard to walk away from someone you love, regardless.

 

Ending a relationship when you still have feelings for the person you're ending it with, or maybe aren't all the way sold on ending it, isn't easy at all. That's where you have to realize you're walking away from somebody you love to help care for somebody you should love first, foremost. You.

[jellybean89]

I agree that I don't think you love HIM, you 'love' the idea of him...you barely know him. You may be attracted to him, infatuated with him, or lusting after him, but not love.

 

I believe you can help who you 'fall in love with'. Love is action. Love is something you do. An affair is not an 'oops'. It is a concentrated action. It is not an accident.

 

I would gently let him know that you want the best for him, but you cannot continue in an affair with him. He has enough on his plate without having a mistress who needs time, attention, etc. That's not fair to him or his family. NOR is it fair to you -- to keep thinking you have this future with him when you know you don't. Seeing him look at his wife, dance with his wife....you know his heart belongs to her.

 

So take take to grieve it, dust yourself off and focus on something POSITIVE for you -- whether it is a new activity, a new friend or dating. You are so young - you have so much life in front of you....go live it!

[waterwoman]

Noooo - as much as I do love the smell of spilt beer and chip fat I'm at college part time, but I have to work almost full time cause I have to pay the bills. I'm training to be a blacksmith

 

 

 

Wow! Just wow!! My eldest boy is doing this too - on top of being a joinery apprentice. I have never met anyone else doing smithying. Are you doing an apprenticeship?

[MatchStick]

I don't know if he did it intentionally or what, he didn't lie as such, we have a few mutual friends dotted about and so I know it's no lie his wife's has struggled & has been into rehab a few times now. I guess like I was so thrown by seeing them together because I hadn't ever imagined them together in.. well, the good times, when she's on her med and everything's okay.

 

 

After a while he asked me what I wanted from him......

./QUOTE]

 

Interesting......I heard that crap too.........he's putting it on you: what do you want from me......if he were more up-and-up, he would be asking questions on how to keep "you" on the up-and-up, which means he keeps the relation platonic.

 

 

Love is grand, and I'm sure there is nice chemistry, but this guy is having a problem with LIFE and his HEAD. He will drag you through it, and all his problems. Look at his situations and the decisions he is making. Do you agree? Is his behavior just all feeling 'sorry' for himself.

 

 

What I would do is what I did. Cut bait, and the pain is well-worth it. Go as NC as possible. Do you really think he's emotionally available? Even if he comes over to mindlessly cook........is that about you or having a pleasant place to land? Don't get me wrong, we all can use a friend. It may not be appropriate here as there is this sex thing going on, and person number three (wife and her needs...) in the back ground.

 

 

Take care of YOU, your full capacity to love and to be loved, by an equal and mutual partner. Hope all works out well, for you.

[Abigale]

You are not in a relationship with this man. He is not actually available. A relationship would suggest that there is a sense of exclusivity.

Damn, i knew when i typed that someone was going to pull me up on it, i meant to go back and change the phrasing.

I understand we're not in a exclusive romantic relationship or anything like that. I'm only referring to the relationship that we have in the sense that any two people who have met have a type of relationship.

 

You are maybe in love with the idea of him. Perhaps, you are in love with only the best parts he has to offer. He shows you only the sides he wants to. It is because of him wanting something back from you. What he is evidently not actually getting at home. Sorry for being so blunt. Just trying to also be honest. Like I have tried to suggest. The sooner you leave will be better.

But if your suggesting he's only after sex? Which I get, that's the impression I always had of 'affairs' prior. Then it wouldn't make sense for it to be me that takes it in that direction more often than he does. He's perfectly happy to meet me on a Sunday morning for a very platonic spot of windsurfing and takeout milkshake (so platonic that he brought his little half-brother along when he was in town a while back) as he is to come over for something more...physical. Whereas I've always wanted more.

 

 

I totally understand. That's why sometimes it's helpful to have a sounding board. A lot of the times you have all the answers you need within you, you just need an ear to hear you talk it out. I'm glad I could help you out.

 

No, it's not something you can sustain in yourself, and you shouldn't have to, not just because everybody makes mistakes or does things that make them unhappy, but because you have thought about what's making you unhappy and why, and you're making the changes to fix it. It's a brave first step!

 

Remember, it's not going to be easy and you'll doubt you're making the right choice in ending your relationship. If there's nobody there to talk you through it, talk yourself through it. Write notes now while you've got resolve, re-read them when you don't. Or send me a message and if I'm around, we can work it out.

 

In the end, make your choice for you. Whatever happens in your relationship with him, make sure you're doing it for you and your health, sanity, and peace of mind.

 

Wow, that's actually really cool!

 

Ending a relationship when you still have feelings for the person you're ending it with, or maybe aren't all the way sold on ending it, isn't easy at all. That's where you have to realize you're walking away from somebody you love to help care for somebody you should love first, foremost. You.

Thanks! I'm going to see him Thursday so.. I guess that'll be the first step..!

 

 

I agree that I don't think you love HIM, you 'love' the idea of him...you barely know him. You may be attracted to him, infatuated with him, or lusting after him, but not love.

I would respectively dispute that I barely know him! I think i actually see a lot more sides to him than some people who'd class themselves his closest friends.

 

I would gently let him know that you want the best for him, but you cannot continue in an affair with him. He has enough on his plate without having a mistress who needs time, attention, etc. That's not fair to him or his family. NOR is it fair to you -- to keep thinking you have this future with him when you know you don't. Seeing him look at his wife, dance with his wife....you know his heart belongs to her.

All true, I don't dispute any of that. Its just.. pulling the trigger. I've pumped myself up to do it before and then I haven't..

[Abigale]

Wow! Just wow!! My eldest boy is doing this too - on top of being a joinery apprentice. I have never met anyone else doing smithying. Are you doing an apprenticeship?

That's cool! I think its totally underrated, but then, I'm bias! Haha!

Yeah, I work one day for a guy who makes really funky bespoke decorative pieces, and then two days at college.

[sunburned]

Glad to hear that -- very cool career choice! Focus on that, not him!

 

 

Seriously, finish school and get out there and meet a great, available, single guy. You're young, beautiful and have a unique talent. Time to fashion yourself some lucky horseshoes. !