d0nnivain Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Ryan We see this very differently. My perspective from what you said is that you are only interested in the gorgeous women you claim your buddies date. From that -- which is all I know about you -- until you posted just now about your college experience -- it made you seem shallow. I think you would be better served by analyzing why you couldn't close the deal in college. I suspect it may have been because you were so freaked out about being a virgin that you could not take the next step in a timely manner & these women concluded that you weren't interested which is how you got friend zoned. If losing your V-card helps you overcome that obstacle, fine but multiple trips to your so called specialist & a series of meaningless ONS probably won't improve your sexual prowess & will hurt your chances of developing the skills to start & maintain an emotionally healthy relationship. with a ons you aren't around enough to learn about your partner. Knowing how to push each other's buttons is what makes a great relationship; that takes time & caring both of which are missing in a ONS. Since you have female friends, ask them what you are doing wrong. Also ask them to fix you up. If they think you are a nice guy they will be more than willing to help & it will be healthier (& cheaper) for you then multiple trips to this specialist. When I was in my late 20s I had a good guy buddy in his early 20s. We'd hang out a lot even though I had a BF. After a while he confessed to me that he wasn't good with women, hadn't really dated much & was a virgin. Turned out he was mis-reading all the signals. Every time we'd go out, I would see at least 1/2 dozen women drooling over him. He claimed it never happened. I also explained that most of them weren't approaching him when he was with me because they thought he was with me. I thought he wasn't ditching me, which I would have been OK with, because he wasn't interested & I was happy to have him stick by me so I wasn't getting hit on by other guys. Anyway, when he finally told me his "secret" the very next time we went out, I pointed out about 4 women who looked interested. My BF put it more bluntly & said they were eye humping him. Thereafter when I saw an interested girl, I'd wander us over to her & start the conversation. We had a code, something stupid like get me another Bud Lite (he drank dark beer) that he could say if he wanted out of the conversation. Two weeks later he had a GF. A year later he met the women he would eventually marry. Seriously, ask your female friends for help.
Author Ryan R. Posted June 25, 2014 Author Posted June 25, 2014 There are so many misconceptions in this post it's making me dizzy. First, if you want sex go online and make a profile saying you are looking for sex, you will get plenty of offers. You think women are idiot? You think we can't tell when a man approaches us that he just want sex? About you start by approaching women to date them before approaching them for sex. AND, if you got the vibe you aren't good enough for sex then change it! Hit the gym and change what ever is the problem. I have lost a **** load of weight to be sexy again why can't you hit the gym to be sexy!! Second, there is no good time or best time to be having casual sex. I have more wild sex today at 48 then in my 20s. Third, this thread is about approaching good looking woman to date them, not to have ONS with them. Fourth, it's a myth that good looking woman are hit on from left and right. Yes online because they ad themselves as being single, in real life rarely because men think a good looking woman like her must be taken. I go to the gym. I work out. I'm trying to get the fitness model physique. Then all the girls will be running. You have "wild sex" because you're a woman. It's easy for you. I will never get that. I missed out on my teenage years and came out with no experience. It's done. I need to have one night stands with whoever so I can gain experience. We all work jobs that we don't like to gain experience. Why not sex. I need the experience of beyond friends with women.
Gaeta Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I go to the gym. I work out. I'm trying to get the fitness model physique. Then all the girls will be running. You have "wild sex" because you're a woman. It's easy for you. I will never get that. I missed out on my teenage years and came out with no experience. It's done. I need to have one night stands with whoever so I can gain experience. We all work jobs that we don't like to gain experience. Why not sex. I need the experience of beyond friends with women. The best lover I had was a man that was married to ONE woman for 20 years. He was mind blowing. The worse lover I had was a single man of 45 that had gone from one partner to another and had lots and lots of ONS. His sex was impersonal and all about performing. Once again you are mistaken to believe the quantity will bring you quality. Those 'specialists' will be there to render you a service, not to teach you. They will pretend what you are doing is well done because you pay them to pretend. If you want experience then find this ONE older woman that will take time to teach you about intimacy.
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Seriously, ask your female friends for help. I understand that this strategy worked for your male friend. But in general this is terrible advice. Most women don't have the capability nor the desire to help their male friends. At least from what I've heard and experienced.
todreaminblue Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 if you truly want to win a woman's heart then you lead with your own...you show your heart you realize their is no fail safe and you jump anyway...if you want a conquest play the game with the other men.....following rules probably made up by other men again who really dont care if you succeed or not.......deb
d0nnivain Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I understand that this strategy worked for your male friend. But in general this is terrible advice. Most women don't have the capability nor the desire to help their male friends. At least from what I've heard and experienced. Find a woman who is willing to help. I did very little other than stand in the middle of bar & point out women who were looking at my buddy
Author Ryan R. Posted June 27, 2014 Author Posted June 27, 2014 Any other guys have any other experience with competition for girls?
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