Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Untucked shirts are a GREAT look.... if they fit right. So you have two options: *Get a well-fitting shirt from a store that caters to stylish people. *Get a shirt that's too long but fits well otherwise and drop $10 to have it hemmed by a tailor. How do I know what is well-fitting and/or what instructions would I give to a tailor?
Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Hair...each to their own but in general I prefer longer hair on a man...definitely not tapered at the back but hanging half way down the neck. Slightly over the ears. I go with my guy when he gets a haircut. He doesn't really care one way or theother than for his hair to be the way I like it. I'd much appreciate it if you could find a picture similar to what you're describing.
Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Whatever makes you feel most confident is probably the right choice. Well now I can't very well wear a suit everywhere I go. 2
Els Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 OP, if you'd be more interested in the girl in the jeans and tee than the girl in the fancy dress, then I think wearing a jeans and tee is really fine for you. It's about compatibility, really. If you're comfortable wearing a suit when the occasion calls for it, that would be a bonus, but you don't need to dress up everywhere you go. True just about everywhere. Thus why some guys have more attraction to us women. They are part of the 10% who make themselves noticed in a positive way. I always feel proud when others comment that my boyfriend dresses sharply. Eesh, speak for yourself. There are about 50 other things I'd care about more in a man, than how he dresses (assuming a reasonable standard of dress). Not all women prioritize the same way. 2
Els Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 . Who said it was a priority? It is a variable. People are more than one dimensional in attracting a mate. Yes, and there is nothing wrong with that. I was referring to your quote: "Thus why some guys have more attraction to us women." I'm saying: it doesn't make much impact on attraction for some of 'us women'.
clia Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Beyond that, my tastes seem to be 180 from what I've read thus far in the thread. That is to say, I'm much more likely to approach the girl in the jeans and concert t-shirt than I am the one in a fancy dress. I don't think anyone is suggesting that you should change your style entirely. How is it working for you with jeans and concert t-shirts? Do women react well? Are you getting a lot of dates? I really don't have a problem with a guy who wears jeans and concert t-shirts sometimes, but if that is your entire wardrobe, you might want to branch out. What would you predict about guy in concert t-shirt? What concert? And where is he? Define bum? Sweat pants, pajama bottoms, t-shirts with holes in them, t-shirts with sweat stains or that are so old they are really faded, shirts with food stains on them, shoes with holes in them or that are really worn out and dirty, etc.
Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 I don't think anyone is suggesting that you should change your style entirely. How is it working for you with jeans and concert t-shirts? Do women react well? Are you getting a lot of dates? No and no, for reasons that go well beyond my lack of fashion. I really don't have a problem with a guy who wears jeans and concert t-shirts sometimes, but if that is your entire wardrobe, you might want to branch out. That is my entire "casual" wardrobe. While I wouldn't wear jeans and a t-shirt to a museum or art gallery, I've never seen the point in wearing a long-sleeve dress shirt if I'm just drinking beer in someone's backyard. What concert? And where is he? Let us say a band that you've never heard of and at the supermarket. Sweat pants, pajama bottoms, t-shirts with holes in them, t-shirts with sweat stains or that are so old they are really faded, shirts with food stains on them, shoes with holes in them or that are really worn out and dirty, etc. Oh, you mean like Walmart. No. No. I never get anywhere near that.
Grumpybutfun Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 90% of them wear jeans and a t-shirt. I wore a t shirt and jeans everyday when I was single aside from my military uniforms...got the most gorgeous wife, I don't know how. Even now, with her helping me, I love wearing a soft t and old jeans and she likes it too. Be yourself. G 1
Haydn Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Mr Scorpio added you to my contacts. Quick pic of Skinny Jeans. 1
FitChick Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Untucked shirts have become more in fashion now that many males carry an extra 10 pounds or more. This 'fad' looks slovenly. Same with baggy jeans hanging halfway down the arse. Maybe when the general population loses weight people will wear fitted clothing again to show off. Whatever you do, do NOT wear a baseball cap backwards. You look like a jerk no matter who you are. 1
thefooloftheyear Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 This 'fad' looks slovenly. Same with baggy jeans hanging halfway down the arse. Maybe when the general population loses weight people will wear fitted clothing again to show off. Whatever you do, do NOT wear a baseball cap backwards. You look like a jerk no matter who you are. I dunno....seems to work pretty well for Tono Romo..Guy gets more ass than a toilet seat,....:laugh: TFY
thefooloftheyear Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 this is why my guy looks sharp with his shirt tucked in. He is fit and this sets him apart from the pudgy majority. Agree on the hat. Sneakers, Tshirt, baseball cap....wow! How 'not' to wow a gal. A lot of success results from being noticed. Dressing a bit differently... Being confidentgoing up to a group of women and introducing yourself... Perhaps the specific clothes don't matter as much as just being more of an individual...standing out from the crowd. Be memorable. Too much work...... When I see an attractive woman, she can be wearing a potato sack....She'll still catch mine or any other guys eye...I dont see why the same thing cant apply to guys as well..."shrug".. TFY
Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 When I see an attractive woman, she can be wearing a potato sack....She'll still catch mine or any other guys eye...I dont see why the same thing cant apply to guys as well..."shrug".. My guess is that, with women, a lack of physical attractiveness can be compensated for to some degree by wearing nice clothes. Putting forward the effort to try to look good. OTOH, I imagine a naturally good-looking guy wearing a plain white t-shirt and worn out jeans might be considered confident because he doesn't care what other people think about how he looks. 4
gaius Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Well now I can't very well wear a suit everywhere I go. Why not? If I wasn't so picky about what button up shirts I like I'd wear them everywhere. If you have enough suits to make it through the week go for it.
Antenna_Of_Destiny Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 When I wear suits that were custom made for me with custom bow ties, pocket squares, and a manual watch with small diamonds you best believe I get much more attention than when I wear a rain jacket and under armour pants.
EasyHeart Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 One of the things I like about LS is that this is the most diverse group of posters I've run across on a message board. We've got people of all ages and from all over the world. I guess heartbreak is universal. But I think that's also why you're getting lots of varying opinions. 60 year old women are going to give you different opinions than 20 year olds; Europeans are going to give you different advice than Americans; big city people dress differently than small town people; even East Coast vs. Midwest is going to be very different when it comes to fashion. My best advice is to look around at men where you live, spot the ones who look well-dressed and COPY THEM. That's important because of the regional differences in fashion. I live in a big metro area in the Midwest and people here don't dress up very much. Khakis/jeans and any shirt with a collar will get you into pretty much anything. GO to NY or LA and they would laugh at you. And drive 50 miles out of my city and they'd think you were dressed up for a wedding. (And if you wore skinny jeans and Pumas in my town, you would get tons and tons of dates -- just not any with women! ) Go to the malls and department stores and just look at the different brands and styles (note to men: YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING WHEN YOU GO SHOPPING!!!) they have and figure out what you like. If you look at the major designers like Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, Calvin Klein, Lucky, Guess, etc. all have different "looks" and you will like some and not like others. Then keep looking at how other men dress, and you'll start being able to identify different styles and brands of what they wear. This is the research phase. Now you're ready to buy a few things. Don't try to buy a whole wardrobe at once; budget whatever you can afford each month and buy one or two things. Think in terms of outfits. Instead of "WOW, I love this shirt!" think "Which of pants/jackets/sweaters can i wear this shirt with?" Also, shop the sales and clearance racks. I'm old and rich, but I never buy any clothes unless they're at least 25% off. You can get some really good deals at clearance stores (eg, Marshalls, TJ Maxx), but you have to know your brands before you go into those stores; they're not for amateurs. I'd stay away from anything too trendy. [rant] All those skinny jeans will (hopefully!) be gone very soon and we can get back to clothes that actually fit. I'm not a bodybuilder by any stretch of the imagination, but half the clothes I try on nowadays I can't get my arms or legs through anything. God forbid they make a shirt I can button across my chest!! [/rant] Check the bookstores, too. I got a great book when I was 30ish that I still have somewhere that was all about building a wardrobe: Which pants and shirts to get first, how to mix and match things, the difference between pleated and flat front pants, how to pick shirt collars, which ties go with which lapels, etc. Something like that would be really helpful. Good luck!!! 5
Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 If you have enough suits to make it through the week go for it. When I wear suits that were custom made for me with custom bow ties, pocket squares, and a manual watch with small diamonds you best believe I get much more attention than when I wear a rain jacket and under armour pants. Ladies? What say you? Middle aged guy in a bar/grocery/bookstore in suit and tie?
gaius Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Ladies? What say you? Middle aged guy in a bar/grocery/bookstore in suit and tie? "He must have money or be important."
EasyHeart Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Ladies? What say you? Middle aged guy in a bar/grocery/bookstore in suit and tie?I'm not a lady, but. . . if you're on the way home from work, it's fine. At 6:00 pm on a weeknight, lots of grocery stores are packed with people in suits. If it's Saturday afternoon, they will assume you work at the mall. 3
Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 I'd notice him. It's like a resume, profile on OLD etc. what makes YOU stand out from the crowd? Get your foot in the door? Sure, but I could also stand out by wearing a barrel with shoulder straps. It seems to me that some women would interpret a guy wearing a suit to a "regular" bar (no dress code, no "club" music, no drinks over $7) as being out-of-place or trying too hard?
clia Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Ladies? What say you? Middle aged guy in a bar/grocery/bookstore in suit and tie? I don't think anything of it; I would assume he came straight from work. But I live in Chicago, so I see men in suits all the time. It might look out of place in a smaller town. If you don't have to wear a suit to work, wearing a suit to a bookstore or grocery store is definitely too "try hard." It can work at a bar, depending on the bar. Wearing a suit to a sports bar (if you aren't coming straight from work) is too "try hard." Wearing a suit to a swanky club would probably be okay. 1
EasyHeart Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 In my carousing days, I would often go to Happy Hour on Fridays after work (in a suit, naturally). Sometimes I would end up staying out late and run into the real bar crowd later in the night. No one seemed to have any problem with me being in a suit if I yelled out, "I've been drinking for the last 7 hours!!!" Unfortunately, that was usually followed with "I love you!" and grabbing the woman's butt. Apparently some women don't like that. Some women. 3
Haydn Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Suit and tie and the horror of cufflinks in the kind of pubs i like to frequent could spell trouble. In a supermarket i would assume you were an estate agent. Still think if you are not suit type guy then don`t become one. How about a pair of white Levi`s? Very difficult to pull off, (in a fashion sense).
normal person Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Where do you live and how old are you, Mr. Scorpio (yes, I get the Simpsons reference, it's funny but not helpful)? These are two big things to consider. What's "attractive" on a guy in London or New York probably isn't going to fly in West Virginia. And if you're 40+ wearing graphic tee shirts and skinny jeans, I think you might look a bit ridiculous wherever you live. Here are some general rules I try and stick to: - Keep everything slim and tailored, oversized clothes make you look worse - Save the shorts for when it's 85 degrees+ - No graphic tee shirts or anything with writing on it - Splurge on suiting that really fits well even if it costs more (or spend a lot on the tailoring)
Author Mr Scorpio Posted June 21, 2014 Author Posted June 21, 2014 Today consisted of: 4 polos (white, grey, green and blue) 1 tie (Garcia) 2 dress shirts 3 pairs of jeans (black to dark blue) 2 pairs of cargo shorts 2 pairs of dress pants 2 Sports coats marked at 75% off that I had to return because they were so big I would have lost the discount in paying a tailor. Total: $379.46 I'll be updating my suit/sportcoat arsenal in a few weeks, as I've lost about 20lbs (1.42857 stone for Haydn) since I purchased them, and I imagine they don't fit very well anymore. I didn't buy any shoes yet, wanted to take the time to read up on that. Still think if you are not suit type guy then don`t become one. I like wearing suits. My career will eventually require that I wear them more often than not. But they are expensive, and uncommon in the places that I frequent. If/when I'm making enough money to frequent jazz clubs and fancy wine tasting events, then I think it would be more appropriate to wear them in a social setting. Even wearing a jacket with jeans and dress shirts will be a bit extravagant for now. Where do you live and how old are you, Mr. Scorpio (yes, I get the Simpsons reference, it's funny but not helpful)? These are two big things to consider. 34 in a perfect-sized Midwestern city.
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