SensitiveTJ Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I'm very sorry for you that you know such nasty women. That's not normal behavior at all. It's more common than you think. 2
Under The Radar Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 It's more common than you think. That's comforting. **** it ...... I'm off to buy stock in Pup-Peroni and Scooby Snacks. If I'm going be abused during my training ...... I demand to be well fed . 1
Phoe Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 It's more common than you think. Even if it might be "more common" than I think, that does not make it the behavior of the majority of women, nor does it make it normal behavior. Acting like that just plain is not okay. It's not normal. It never will be. But threads like this that suggest it IS normal, are part of the problem. No one should EVER go through life with the attitude that bad behavior from others is normal and expected. 1
Tiger Lily Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 While the word "train" may seem controversial, everyone does it! Everyone teaches others how he or she should be treated. By encouraging certain behaviors, shunning others. It's completely normal and common. Of course, if it gets into manipulation territory, then it's wrong. Otherwise, it's just a part of life. 5
Under The Radar Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Yep, no matter how tired ...... I know the toilet seat ALWAYS remains down. Thank you ladies for teaching me that . 1
Shaun-Dro Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I've heard countless discussions about women training men. It's time to even the playing field, men, and start a winning tradition. I know it doesn't come natural to us since we mind our own business and being manipulative isn't in our nature (though some men can be), but it's time to start training our women in the same fashion they train us. So I'll start with my ideas. If I ever date again, I'm going to have a "screening process". Just like how women year guys early on, I'm going to do the same. Here is what I'm going to test for: 1) When I take a nap, will she flip out and start getting on my case about housework? 2) If I want to visit a friend or see my family, will she try to sabotage it or spend the next 3 days "getting back" at me? 3) When I'm sick or at my lowest, how she acts THEN is really how she thinks about me. If a woman gives you the "stop being a baby" crap, it's time to cut your losses. 4) If a woman so much as slaps, pushes, or throws anything at me during a relationship (even if joking), I'm gone. See ya later. I've been assaulted pretty badly and I have ZERO tolerance now. 5) Is she addicted to drama? Will I be allowed to just sit on a damn couch in the evening and read a damn book if I so choose? Or will there be constant strife that spills over and keeps the house from being peaceful? These are my ideas. I guess it's not so much training as it is screening out. Guys REALLY need to get better at this. Women are naturally skilled at this and they do this on us without us even realizing. Time to even the playing field, gents. Draft up your screening process and put it to work. There's nothing in here that's of news to me. I've long since been doing this with women after turning 30, which is why I don't keep them around long.
Els Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 In any case, all American women can now breathe a sigh of relief! Noooooooooooooo don't foist him on the rest of us!!!! 4
Author M30USA Posted June 9, 2014 Author Posted June 9, 2014 Noooooooooooooo don't foist him on the rest of us!!!! It's okay. I'm doing more important things. I'm elusive like the wind. Look for me here--gone. There--gone. 1
Under The Radar Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 *UTR looks for M30USA* Oh well, can't find him. *Shrug*
regine_phalange Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 You must have had a terrible taste in women in the past. 2
contact1 Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 OP must have read these books: Husband-ry 101: How to Train Your Husband to be the Spouse You've Always Wanted Him to Be: Michael H. McCann: 9780741417459: Amazon.com: Books How to Make Your Man Behave in 21 Days or Less Using the Secrets of Professional Dog Trainers: Karen Salmansohn, Alison Seiffer: 9781563056260: Amazon.com: Books
Robert Z Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Every man is a work in progress, a diamond in the rough or a raw hunk of marble waiting to be chiseled. “Man training” is really the art of teaching a woman to receive from a man—and it is something every woman can learn. It’s a skill set—and the Womanly Arts Mastery Program is the only place on earth to learn it. Owning and Operating Men | Mama Gena's School of Womanly Arts This may sound demeaning and a bit harsh; so I don’t want you thinking I’m referring to all men as dogs. They are more like loveable puppies that need simple potty training. No matter how crass the methodology may be, the end results will likely perpetuate the making of the perfect relationship that will make all of your friends jealous. How To Train Your ManElite Daily How to train your man Men are like dogs...How to Train Your Man - Surviving Dating! That said, Man Training 101 is still not unlike Puppy School. In Puppy School you get trained up as a human on how to think like your beloved puppy and act appropriately as an alpha pack mate. If you’re going to train your man to treat you the way you’d like to be treated, the same thing applies. You’ve got to understand how his head works - which by the way, is not the same way a woman’s head works. So, here are the first five steps to training your man How Training a Man and Training a Puppy Aren't that Different | YourTango And what is cited as one of the most common mistakes made by women when picking a mate? They believe they can change the man. Women often marry men who don't make them happy and then try to change them. It happens every day. And when the man doesn't change, guess who's the villain? In spite of the hypocritical and transparent disclaimers, this is all condescending and insulting. It is just another example of the fact that many women think far too much of themselves. And these delusions of superiority have become ingrained in the minds of many women in our culture. This is why men often seek brides from overseas. From "training men like dogs" to "castrating hogs on an Iowa farm", it is considered cute to be disrespectful of, or even openly malicious towards men. Edited June 9, 2014 by Robert Z 1
ThatMan Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 The women who think of men as hogs to be castrated? Stay away from those women. Grown adults don't need to train anybody because they understand how to create boundaries for themselves instead. Go search for a woman who thinks of couples as a relationship and not an institution. With all of these disturbingly entertaining comments, one would think you're capable of sorting out the riff-raff far better than the rest of us. 5
littleplanet Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Well, as one of my favorite songwriters used to sing - "treat her like a b*tch, she won't be makin' no more puppies with you" Training is for Redbone hounds and Rotties, mate. And as me mum used to say - handsome is as handsome does. Perhaps the only training one ever does or should do - is on their own selves. And what the heck happened to American women that seems to raise the market value on geishas and courtesans? (Methinks women across the planet have much the same issues with the male of the species.) Not all domestic bliss is born in Thailand. Patriarchy: is for kindness bestowed upon grandchildren. Prior to that, one needs to spend a little time in the trenches and keep the whiskers trimmed. But seriously. Your list leaves me a little gobsmacked. Strikes me as a tad Neanderthal. Old bones for a new ceremony. About as progammable as a Stepford wife. Maybe the manual needs a re-write? 1
Frank2thepoint Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Is any of the information in this thread related to the "How to train your dragon" films? Because I like those animations a lot. Joking aside, the only person you can train is yourself. If you encounter someone that mistreats you, is disrespectful, first communicate your disapproval of their behavior and hope they improve toward you. If nothing changes, then just walk away from the person. I think self-respect is a more powerful feeling than being emotionally attached to an unhealthy person. 4
Author M30USA Posted June 9, 2014 Author Posted June 9, 2014 Your list leaves me a little gobsmacked. Strikes me as a tad Neanderthal. Neanderthals had larger brains than us (16% larger).
Candy_Pants Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I've been training my man with BJs.... Or has he been training me!?! It's all so confusing :laugh:!! 10
Els Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Is any of the information in this thread related to the "How to train your dragon" films? Because I like those animations a lot. High five dude! Step 1: Procure a dragon/woman ... ...... .......... (well, some people don't get past step 1.. ) 2
Glinda.Good Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I've heard countless discussions about women training men. It's time to even the playing field, men, and start a winning tradition. I know it doesn't come natural to us since we mind our own business and being manipulative isn't in our nature (though some men can be), but it's time to start training our women in the same fashion they train us. So I'll start with my ideas. If I ever date again, The place to stop is RIGHT THERE. No reason to ever date again; why even think about it? Dating and relationships are for men and women who like one another. 4
Glinda.Good Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Wow, your ex really ****ed you up. Please don't blame this on his ex! How I would love to hear her side of the story. Wisdom from post divorce dating years: beware the person who heaps much blame upon his or her former spouse. Run, run like the wind from that person! 2
ThatMan Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Please don't blame this on his ex! How I would love to hear her side of the story. Wisdom from post divorce dating years: beware the person who heaps much blame upon his or her former spouse. Run, run like the wind from that person! Why would run like the wind when people heap on blame? The one reason why I'd avoid women similar to M30USA is because they haven't reached a healthy place yet. It must be incredibly painful to constantly relive the feelings of a toxic relationship. Being trapped in resentment and rumination limbo is a horrible place to find yourself. This is unhealthy for M30USA. Assigning blame is not the same as detaching from a poor relationship and moving on. With that said there are women out there who are horrible people to be avoided. You don't need her side of the story, participate the drama between two former spouses, and yes she may have in fact committed these acts. The truth residing between two different stories is generally true. It isn't true when an individual is deeply troubled and dishes out violence, abuse, mistreatment, you name it. Even women are sometimes capable of these acts and you certainly don't need to place yourself in her shoes out of a misguided sense of sisterhood. You cannot reasonably understand what occurred. All we may offer from our positions is to accurately share how we would react in similar positions, or what helped us move on after a poor relationship.
Woggle Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I wouldn't call it training but any person that wants commitment from you should be able to pass some basic standards. If I am going to share my life with I better be sure you won't ruin it. I would say this for either gender. 1
amaysngrace Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 My exH trained me and he trained our kids too. And he literally always had the upper hand. Nice thread M30USA.
carhill Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 OP, you're a single dad, right? FWIW, I dated a lot of single moms and a goodly portion of them, at one point or another, went through the phase you're going through right now, reflected in the tone of your postings. When actively in the 'my ex was evil therefore all members of their gender are potentially evil' phase, dating such ladies was rife with land mines and triggers. Say one word wrong and it was off to the races. I came to see it as normal and didn't take it personally. Your 'list' is a lot of why I haven't dated since getting divorced. With a list like that running in my mind, or other dark thoughts, I'd have been a lousy dating partner. For yourself, you'll be consistently reminded because you co-parent. It's a process one gets through. In a few years you'll look back and perhaps laugh. Part of being human. One lesson I did learn that has stuck regarding 'training' is to refrain from giving the benefit of the doubt. Take things as they are at the moment and address them in the moment. Whatever works out, works out. Good luck! 4
MidwestUSA Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Please don't blame this on his ex! How I would love to hear her side of the story. Wisdom from post divorce dating years: beware the person who heaps much blame upon his or her former spouse. Run, run like the wind from that person! Oh, you're absolutely right. In my haste to post, I phrased it wrong. Thinking back to the histories of the divorced guys I dated - yep. And on the other of the spectrum were those had every right to be angry, but handled themselves with grace and without animosity. Funny, they turned out to be the best guys. 2
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