bson1257 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 It seems like the vast majority of women are only following the social norm that they are supposed to like men, but they really don't. Most women find men repulsive and disgusting. Its like that Seinfeld episode where Elaine says that the female body is a work of art and the male body is hideous.
todreaminblue Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I happen to like men ........this is why......delete.......deb
d0nnivain Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Some people -- men & women -- are unkempt. I think most women like men & vice versa. It's a biological imperative for the procreation of the species. 1
carhill Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Do most women pretend to like men? Pervasively? IME, no. Situationally? YMMV but I've seen plenty of that. Does it rule them? IMO, no, but it is a tool which comes out of the box occasionally for some. My exW called it 'masking'. What I usually ask myself, having been through the 'masking' wringer, is what does the lady have to gain by liking me, analyze the variables and apply life experience with many such women and decide whether the situation warrants any action. Lastly, I apply the maxim 'if it seems too good to be true, it likely is' and look at the situation realistically. If it doesn't pass the smell test, I move on. Regarding the physical aspect, and men being comparatively 'repulsive and disgusting' physically, it's impossible for a man to know how a woman feels about such matters. Overwhelmingly, it hasn't been my sense in life that women generally find men's bodies to be 'repulsive and disgusting'. Sure, some of us are more physically attractive than others but that's a different kettle of fish from general repulsion.
regine_phalange Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 What? No! I personally adore the look and feel of the male body. 1
FitChick Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Lesbians don't like men and they don't pretend to. 2
jbelle6 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 It seems like the vast majority of women are only following the social norm that they are supposed to like men, but they really don't. Most women find men repulsive and disgusting. Its like that Seinfeld episode where Elaine says that the female body is a work of art and the male body is hideous. Nope, love men. 1
snappytomcat Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 yes I do think the female body is beautiful,but I prefer the male, I love men
iris219 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Why would women pretend to like men? Do you think all women have to grin and bear it every time they have sex? Come on, OP. You know that's ridiculous, 4
oldshirt Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 It seems like the vast majority of women are only following the social norm that they are supposed to like men, but they really don't. Most women find men repulsive and disgusting. Its like that Seinfeld episode where Elaine says that the female body is a work of art and the male body is hideous. I'm actually going to side with bson on this one to a degree. A lot of men ARE repulsive and disgusting. In the animal world, males are often the pretty ones with the bright colors and the antlers and the manes etc and the females are the ones that are dull and drab. In humans it's the opposite and its the females that are visually appealing to both genders and the males are blah. Sure there are some guys that are head and shoulders better looking than the rest but even the best looking male model really doesn't turn heads any more than an average woman. Behaviorally men are often the problem children as well and just aren't socialized in the social graces and skills as are women. and we live in a society that feels it's ok to bash and put down men and point out all their faults whereas people are often horrified if some woman is called out for her bad behavior. Add all that up and men do get a bad wrap. What it boils down to is men don't get any kind of free pass on their looks or their behavior that women do, so it is up to each individual man to hold himself up higher than the pack. Guys that take care of themselves and put time and effort into their appearance and their social and interpersonal skills can be liked and admired by both males and females alike. Men that let themselves go and get all fat and hairy and gross and act like cavemen are going to quickly find themselves at the very bottom of the social hierarchy.
Got it Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I am confused, is this just liking the physical attributes of the human male or the whole package including intellect, personality, etc? While the female body is artistically appealing so is the male body. Just harder lines which has a beauty of its own. If we are talking the whole package, well then it comes down to the individual and what makes them up. This is same for both genders. I do not pretend to like men. I do like men. I do not like all men by any stretch nor do I like all women. I do not pretend to like anyone though I will be professionally polite.
Meatballsmom Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Yes I like men! No way I would I want to kiss a woman
sillyanswer Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 It seems like the vast majority of women are only following the social norm that they are supposed to like men, but they really don't. Most women find men repulsive and disgusting. The women who like, erm, I mean, pretend to like me are doing a pretty good job of it. "Can I see you this weekend, Sillyanswer?" doesn't seem like something someone pretending would bother to say, or am I just hearing what I'd like to hear?
thefooloftheyear Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I'm actually going to side with bson on this one to a degree. A lot of men ARE repulsive and disgusting. In the animal world, males are often the pretty ones with the bright colors and the antlers and the manes etc and the females are the ones that are dull and drab. In humans it's the opposite and its the females that are visually appealing to both genders and the males are blah. Sure there are some guys that are head and shoulders better looking than the rest but even the best looking male model really doesn't turn heads any more than an average woman. Behaviorally men are often the problem children as well and just aren't socialized in the social graces and skills as are women. and we live in a society that feels it's ok to bash and put down men and point out all their faults whereas people are often horrified if some woman is called out for her bad behavior. Add all that up and men do get a bad wrap. What it boils down to is men don't get any kind of free pass on their looks or their behavior that women do, so it is up to each individual man to hold himself up higher than the pack. Guys that take care of themselves and put time and effort into their appearance and their social and interpersonal skills can be liked and admired by both males and females alike. Men that let themselves go and get all fat and hairy and gross and act like cavemen are going to quickly find themselves at the very bottom of the social hierarchy. I dunno bout that.....Take a ride to the nearest beach and have a look the women there....Looks like the petting zoo at the County Fair.. Men can more easily maintain a physique and are naturally more muscular and lithe.. But back to the original question... I think its the other way around(or at the very least equal)... Many guys wouldnt give women much attention if not for the sex....The reason that it appears like it would be the other way around is the stupidity some guys are willing to put up with just for a sniff of a womans vagina... TFY Edited June 20, 2014 by thefooloftheyear
Grumpybutfun Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Most guys wouldnt give women much attention if not for the sex..... TFY Exactly what I was going to contribute to this thread...great minds and all. G 1
littleplanet Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Oy! I'd tend to agree! (but only on one issue) footwear. As a man, I want to completely divorce my gender when it comes to decent things to wear on my feet. (I wonder why I never developed a foot fetish over this) Whoever it is who designs footwear for men out there......I wanna meet you in the ring.......with gloves off! (sorry - I just had to yell there for a minute.) The rest of it? Ah..........the old biological imperative thing. We'd become extinct as a species pretty quick, if it were true. (And that ain't happening anytime soon - or at least not for that reason.) But if we pick it apart a little......I'd say that one interesting detail that surfs our nerves and sensibilities a little......is the commodification of the female form. (Not that male forms aren't commodified - but to a far less and very different degree.) Quick snap: the male form tends to be portrayed more doing things. The female form appears more as an end in itself. So boys and men are socially conditioned to be attracted to the other (gender.) We all know how that works. But how does that conditioning work on girls and women? Like for instance......(I was in my late twenties when a smart woman finally got around to teaching me this).......that men think women dress for them. (And they sort of do.) But they really dress for other women. My first response to that....was that men don't do this at all. Then I was fascinated trying to figure out why. Then I drew the conclusion that it doesn't really matter - to men. Then I wondered why. Then I figured it was because of social conditioning. Then I won the bingo game and got my just rewards from my SO. One of my favorite female friends used to discuss "esthetics" with me. (She happened to swing from both sides of the chandelier, at the time.) I could certainly see her point (though my biases tended to be from one side only.) Seems women are compelled (by society) to be perfect. The ideal. The muse. What launched a thousand ships......and all that. (Though it was the men that did the launching, and the fussin' and fightin') but we take it as a given: of course a pretty face could have the power to do that. I've often pondered on this: Men are 'civilized' by women. (Lord knows what Neanderthals we would have remained......had we not had all those gentle nudges down through history!) Housetrained....... and picking out color co-ordinations......(I long ago threw in the towel on that one.) But I dunno, If I'd ever lived a life wherein I truly felt like my maleness disgusted women (esthetically or otherwise) I suppose I would have turned into a cat on a hot tin roof (wondering how to retract those claws) and nothing of the sort has been my experience. ......and I don't really think it had much to do with good looks, charm, and appropriate adoration. naw. The women in question were just as capable of forgiving my imperfections, as I was of forgiving theirs.
regine_phalange Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 In the human species, both males and females can show off their attributes with makeup, tattoos, jewelry, revealing clothes, even with their attitude. I personally find the straighter lines of the male body much more beautiful and artistic than the rounded female body. But that's just me.
amaysngrace Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 A penis is a work of art. Even lesbys use fake penis and allegedly they don't even like them. 1
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