do you believe in destiny?

[regine_phalange]

by all means, everyone should naysay "destiny", but...just because we "met the one" and they dumped us...doesn't mean that was "the one".

 

or, as i prefer, we don't just have "one". we have a few of them.

 

all of us want to feel like we met the ONE when it's awesome, and then we stop believing in the world when it falls to pieces. i'm NOT saying to be happy shiny positive people, i'm not one at all, just don't let one dumb dumper ruin your outlook of finding someone to connect with in some fashion.

 

i dunno though, for me, i just happened to meet someone and it feels like the wrong time. even being 15 hours apart it's like fighting the world to keep us away from each other, even only having met briefly over a 36 hour period of time and never again since. my brain is fighting my heart about it, wanting to disbelieve "fate" had any part of it, but my heart certainly wants to remember that "destiny" is real.

 

thanks for contributing to the thread.

I whole heartedly wish you a happy ending for your story, flitzanu.

Yes, I think that "fate" is not predetermined, but something can become "fate" because we want it so much.

[Candy_Pants]

Yes. In 6th grade I dated a boy who attended church with me. We had such similar life events/upbringings we were drawn to eachother. At such a young age we couldn't last, but our feelings were still very much alive.

 

In HS I was a "hot" nerd, and he was the super cool punk kid. We each thought the other would NEVER want to date us again. So we quietly dreamed and each year on our birthday (we have the same one) we had an excuse to talk!!

 

Time went by and I moved to Europe while he traveled the states feeding the homeless out of his van. And mere months apart we unknowingly moved to the same state!! On the opposite coast we met on!!

 

Since then we've been inseparable, and are expecting our first child this fall !!!!

 

So yes, I do believe in destiny and love at first sight. But the "effort" can't end there or you've squandered an incredible gift.

[regine_phalange]

Yes. In 6th grade I dated a boy who attended church with me. We had such similar life events/upbringings we were drawn to eachother. At such a young age we couldn't last, but our feelings were still very much alive.

 

In HS I was a "hot" nerd, and he was the super cool punk kid. We each thought the other would NEVER want to date us again. So we quietly dreamed and each year on our birthday (we have the same one) we had an excuse to talk!!

 

Time went by and I moved to Europe while he traveled the states feeding the homeless out of his van. And mere months apart we unknowingly moved to the same state!! On the opposite coast we met on!!

 

Since then we've been inseparable, and are expecting our first child this fall !!!!

 

So yes, I do believe in destiny and love at first sight. But the "effort" can't end there or you've squandered an incredible gift.

Wow! That, indeed, sounds like fate.

[flitzanu]

Yes. In 6th grade I dated a boy who attended church with me. We had such similar life events/upbringings we were drawn to eachother. At such a young age we couldn't last, but our feelings were still very much alive.

 

In HS I was a "hot" nerd, and he was the super cool punk kid. We each thought the other would NEVER want to date us again. So we quietly dreamed and each year on our birthday (we have the same one) we had an excuse to talk!!

 

Time went by and I moved to Europe while he traveled the states feeding the homeless out of his van. And mere months apart we unknowingly moved to the same state!! On the opposite coast we met on!!

 

Since then we've been inseparable, and are expecting our first child this fall !!!!

 

So yes, I do believe in destiny and love at first sight. But the "effort" can't end there or you've squandered an incredible gift.

 

amazing. thank you for sharing

[pteromom]

NOPE. Not at all.

 

Life is what you make it. The meaning to things is the meaning you give them.

[No Limit]

I didn't believe in destiny/fate 'till 2 years ago.

 

I was pretty much at the brink of giving up after 2 years of exceptionally-extreme bullying, until I finally didn't care. Had to repeat a year and for the first time since I even got into school I was in a class with friendly students.

It revived my spirits as well; I got back into old interests, especially biology/the human body.

But with my school I wasn't qualified enough to study medicine, or so I thought;

this year my country's government started a few new education-directions at... let's call it "college" for a better understanding, one of them being about medicine! This program is available in only 3 schools in the entire country, one of said schools is in the next bigger city. Simultaneously and in the same city opened a private university, a university which has their applicants pay a lot of money, and doesn't demand only A grades - the applicants have to pass other tests, I guess the institution wants people who are determined to learn for the sake of interest, not of money and prestige.

 

After 2 years of nothing but agony and sorrow I was suddenly given a future and a long, but clear path ahead of me. How could I not believe in fate after everything that's happened? How many bully-victims go from looser to future medics? There are plenty who don't even survive the ordeal.

[flitzanu]

Destiny would mean there is a pre-set plan or scenario. This means that someone or something is in charge and has control over how things work.

 

The human species LOVES to marvel at things such as this. It makes them feel important...like theres something bigger and better out there. They like to feel like life has a reason.

 

I dont believe in anything. We are no more special than a blade of grass, or a rock sitting at the bottom of the ocean. We are a random species that evolved on this planet. We are they way we are because of our environment. Not the other way around. "GOD" didnt put oxygen here for us to breathe and survive....we evolved to use oxygen, because it was already here. Most people think with a "me" way of thinking. If we evolved on some other planet, with another gas besides oxygen, we would have used that gas to breathe and thought it was special.

 

Anyone willing to open their eyes and learn something new?

 

Go on youtube and type in " Carl Sagan pale blue dot "

 

Dawkins and Tyson on intelligence

 

If you really want to go far down the rabbit hole....and get past destiny..and look at reality....the following video sheds light on that.

 

All we see and seem is but a dream within a dream

 

Destiny is fun, and it sounds romantic....but it only exists in books and movies. Its a fabricated thought conjured up by the human mind.

 

how about that whole linear evolution thing huh? who'd have known that there were 4 dominant human species on the planet at the same time that interbred?

[nomadic_butterfly]

i don't see this question on the first three pages, though i'm sure it's been asked before.

 

just been curious lately what "the world" thinks about destiny, fate, "the one", true soulmates, love at first sight...etc.

 

ready, go.

 

I believe in fate but I don't believe one has no control over his/her destiny as we have free will.

 

I don't believe in "a" soul mate. I believe there is a "best mate;" that is one person whom you would be the happiest and most compatible with but that doesn't negate the fact that you can be happy enough and/or compatible enough with a few others.

 

Love at first sight to me is a bunch of hullabaloo. Romantic love for me means I need to take the time out to actually get to know the person; I prefer informed decisions and letting my guards down and leaving my heart completely open to a stranger whom I never even so much as had a conversation with is ludicrous to me. I will however, say that perhaps some people may have felt an instant spark or connection the first time they gazed upon their partner, and it turned out they were the right fit. I've never experienced it, but I cannot necessarily say it does not exist ever or at all but it's an exception, not the rule because lust is most often the prominent factor in "love at first sight"

[johnpatric]

I surely believe in Destiny. The reason is that those who have faith in what ever they are doing do come across destiny.

 

It is always faced by every individual ones or many times in their life span.

 

You get various surprises in your life, what you never though in your life sometimes you come across it.

 

Its my personal view I don't know you call it destiny or not as the world is small you come across suprises, as one day I was very upset at my previous working atmosphere and wanted to leave the job, but my situation in life doesn't allow me to do so.

 

I got a call from a placement the same day, when I went for the next day for the interview I was stuck in the traffic and was late for the interview and in the mean time I took lift from a lady, as I felt that it will be secured so at the back seat were sitting 3 noble men. And they have to go to the same destination where I have to, I heard them talking to each other, we are late for the interview.

 

The lady was quite, they dropped me near the parking lot.

I went where I have to go for the interview and thanked the lady for the lift.

 

When I entered the office nobody except the receptionist was in that office and I waited for the panel who have to take my interview.

 

To my surprise when I entered the room where I was having interview I saw the panel of the same people I met and the lady was the managing director of the company and ALL

started laughing and said the world is very small.

 

Surely it was a destiny in my opinion.

Edited May 17, 2014 by johnpatric

[SolG]

In terms of 'love at first sight'... Pattern recognition is a psychological phenomenon where folk subconsciously take in a heap of data and process it virtually instantaneously to arrive at a conclusion. You may have heard about instructor pilots being able to tell whether or not a candidate will be able to fly on first sight and more often than not being right. This is well developed pattern recognition. The same thing happens with people romantically where they have a developed sense of what they want in a partner; they take in the data and recognise compatibility instantly. In these cases it may not necessarily be 'love at first sight', but rather the instant recognition of someone with the potential to be a successful long term partner. It retrospectively becomes 'love at first sight' when folk get it right and the relationship ends up successful :-)

[littleplanet]

i don't see this question on the first three pages, though i'm sure it's been asked before.

 

just been curious lately what "the world" thinks about destiny, fate, "the one", true soulmates, love at first sight...etc.

 

ready, go.

 

 

Ah.......Love at first sight. Oh yes. A perfectly marvelous thing. As rare as an Antarctic humingbird - when it's real. I knew it once.

 

Fate. Hmmmm. I never particularly wanted to be a Master of the Universe. Just a master of my own self. So far, it's working out fine.

Fatalistic thinking always gave me fits. Like every single time you learn how to do something you never thought you would.

Like the endless burning curiosity about stuff that's supposed to disappear these days by the age of 5.

 

I never was big on control. I divorced my family at age 16 - and then by about 21 (college age) started up a grand reunion, which finished up nicely by the time I was 29.

So is what you can't control - given over to fate? perhaps....sometimes.

(But not without a good fight - depending on what's at stake.)

 

I never was paricularly square with the soul-mate thing. But on the other hand.....the one and only? Oh yes. On that I agree. (She does too, which works out to perfection.)

 

Um....my safety clause.

This 'dating' site isn't at all that kind of animal for me. I just like yakking with people. (or in this case - writing.)

[2.50 a gallon]

I am retired. I. E. I have lived a lot longer and had many more life experiences than most LS posters.

 

Alas, I am not a religious person. I wish I was. However, looking back over my life, especially when it came to life changing events, I recognize that there was some unknown, unseen force, that somehow steered me in the right direction. There were just too many events that fell in place at the right time, to label it coincidental.

 

I think of it as the winds of love or the winds of fate.

[flitzanu]

turk, i'm with you a bit on this one.

 

i believe we have guiding forces, but i do not believe in pre-destination. oxymoronic i suppose, but even a "guiding force" doesn't have to be a higher power. it could be simply a global consciousness or gene-encoded instinct or predisposition. i dunno, that's a huge conversation that's a tad unrelated haha.

[Targetlock]

I believe in fate and destiny and that certain major moments in our lives are supposed to happen its just how we get to them is up to us i guess. i've had several things happen in my life so far that I feel like i was supposed to do that or be there. but then again I also believe in Karma.

[2.50 a gallon]

On the night we met, she had just started work at a convenience store, my first thought was "There is a face I could kiss good morning to for the rest of my life". She was taller than me, and my second thought was "Look at them legs" I am a leg man. A lot of long legged women have no shape bird legs, but hers were the most perfect, I'd seen in a long time. She was totally out of my league in the looks department, and any one that hot was sure to have a man in her life.

It turned out that she was a divorced mother of two teens, one of whom had already flown the nest and the other about to, and she was living with a man she was totally in love with. But, I did not give up, my plan was to hang around and wait for him to make a mistake. We did not become friends, I did not know her last name, never asked for her number and never knew where she lived. She was just a possible someday FWB project, and at that time I had several FWB's so I was not in a hurry. The only time we interacted was when I would occasionally stopped by her store.

A year and a half later, my luck began to change, they had hit a rough period and she was wanting to move out. I have always wanted to live in Denver and towards that end had sent out several resumes and as luck would have it had taken two weeks off from work to go job hunting there. The timing was perfect, "Pack your things and ride with me" She was all set to go but chickened out at the last minute.

I went alone, and was offered a fantastic job, even went so far as to put rent a place. When I returned home, it was in hopes that she would once again change her mind and move to Denver with me. My hopes were soon dashed as I found out the day that I left, they had again fought, she had quit her job and moved to a small town half an hour away. No problem, the town is small and I will just go find her.

A year later, having failed to find her and having forgot about her, I had taken another week off from work to once again go job hunting in Denver. I worked nights, so once I was up on Saturday, packed my truck, and at about 9 that evening I hit the road. Twenty miles up the road, I realized that I had a bad headlight and the other was going bad. So I had to turn around and head back to the city. Sunday afternoon, am ready to go again, am once again packed. The last thing I do is wash dinner dishes, and presto my kitchen sink goes nuts, water every where. Monday, the mess cleaned up and the sink fixed, I head out again, only to find that now my gas tank is leaking badly. I get my truck back rush hour on Wednesday. Once again pack the truck and head out on the road, have two stops to make, to get gas, and a K-Mart for supplies. I hear that there is a wreck on the freeway so take a side road and drive around the wreck. I was one block away from taking the two block jog to the freeway and there she was checking her mail. Thirty seconds earlier or later, I would never have seen her again. I was one block away from getting on the freeway and heading towards a new life. Coincidence, NO Way.

We have now been together for over 18 years.

Edited May 23, 2014 by 2.50 a gallon

[RonaldS]

Unfortunately, there is no way to prove or disprove Determinism.

 

Whatever outcome happens is the one that happened. There's no way to determine if it happened because it was supposed to happen or because you made it happen. If you make a last-second decision that totally changes your trajectory, and some outcome happens as a result of that decision, did you thwart fate, or was it your fate that you would make that decision and that outcome would happen.

 

Once the universe got set in motion, some believe, there is only one way things could unfold. I'm not sure about that, but it can't be proven or disproven, so it's largely moot.

 

As far as fate and destiny in meeting that one special and amazing person, the one for you....meh. There are billions of people, and the more of those billions you tap into, the more you find that there are lots of 'the one' out there, and often, who was 'the one' at one point in your life is not 'the one' at another point.

 

Sometimes you think you found 'the one'.....and then 10 years later, you really do meet 'the one'....and then 10 years later.....