Girl Hates Me Now?

May 7, 2014

How lucky--i just happened to be on here right now. Wondering what had happened! Ok, well awesome that you have something arranged to talk to her when she gets back--that way you just HAVE to do it. Just tell her already!! seriously, if she is open, i would maybe even kiss her. obviously she likes you--i told you! I would just be joke-y a bit about it at the beginning, as you launch into what you are going to say. The benefit is that you are close friends already. You can be honest. Nothing to be scared of either. The reality is that she knows you know she has feelings for you too since she freaked out about picking up girls in bars convo. No one but someone who liked you would get upset about that. So my opinion is that she already thinks you know her feelings for you. Be the bold one and just state the obvious. Good luck!

I really needed someone to reply to that last post just to help my confidence a bit, thanks!

I'm still nervous but I couldn't live with myself if I never knew what the result would be.

I'm going to be the man again, grab my balls and try my best.

I'll let you know what happens!

May 7, 2014

Unfortunately by the time they got back from their run I had to do some things for my mum away from home so I didn't get to speak to her again in person.

I'll just have to ask over facebook, reason been, I don't want to wait until I see her again because that could be another week which would give me less of chance because right now the attraction between us both is quite strong.

I'll say something like this:

Me: "Well I would of rather told you this in person but I might as well say it now, firstly did you mean it when you said that we clearly don't get along?"

Her: No, I was just really mad

Me: "Well I've been thinking about last weekend, and I think that you're a cool girl and fun to be around. So I'm asking if you want to hang out sometime with just me and see if we really get along or not and go from there"

Her: What about that girl you're seeing

Me: Let's just say I've been giving the wrong girl my attention. You don't need to answer right now, talk to my sister about it if you want then let me know. Or if you just want to stay as friends then tell me so.

Her: Ok good, I was wondering what she might think. I'll let you know soon

I need to play it a little bit safe or it could become really awkward for my sister.

Well that's my idea of how it will go, I know she will want to ask my sister first for permission because my sister has told me that she doesn't like to talk about her feelings and stuff of me around her.

May 7, 2014

Good luck, I think you should be even more straight to the point!

May 7, 2014

Good luck, I think you should be even more straight to the point!

Yes Bolase is right. This seems a little vague. Tell her you like her. You don't talk on the phone? Because if you can't see her in person, I think on the phone would be next best. Then text, then FB--unless you two unless FB and texting interchangably. I agree about striking while attraction is high--well it probably always is but what's going on between you both now is on a high. Good luck.

May 7, 2014

Yes Bolase is right. This seems a little vague. Tell her you like her. You don't talk on the phone? Because if you can't see her in person, I think on the phone would be next best. Then text, then FB--unless you two unless FB and texting interchangably. I agree about striking while attraction is high--well it probably always is but what's going on between you both now is on a high. Good luck.

I've learnt from the past that admitting to liking someone directly over facebook isn't a good idea, it just doesn't work that well compared to been in person.

So I said to her:

"i was going to ask you if you wanted to keep things how they are now or meet up sometime where its just me and you"

I'm sure she'll get the point by saying this, so if we meet up that's when I'll tell her why im interested in meeting up with her. Saying things like "You have a really cool personality and I always find it fun been around you", stuff like that.

I'll let you know what she says.

May 7, 2014

I've learnt from the past that admitting to liking someone directly over facebook isn't a good idea, it just doesn't work that well compared to been in person.

So I said to her:

"i was going to ask you if you wanted to keep things how they are now or meet up sometime where its just me and you"

I'm sure she'll get the point by saying this, so if we meet up that's when I'll tell her why im interested in meeting up with her. Saying things like "You have a really cool personality and I always find it fun been around you", stuff like that.

I'll let you know what she says.

I've only just seen this!!! Well done you for apologising, it was definitely needed (told you :-p )

Now just be straight to the point

You - I know that you are my sisters friend, and this could get weird. But would you like to go on a date with me.

Come on you can do it!!!!

May 7, 2014

Ok for some bad news, this is how she replied:

"I think the best thing for us to do is, to keep it how it is now, I just don't think it would work out and i am seeing someone else now and as you know I'm not like that to also see other guys"

I know she isn't really seeing anyone at all, just talking to someone.

I replied with

"Ok then, if thats how you want it to be then thats fine. I'm not seeing that girl anymore so I thought I would ask since I have fun been around you. Atleast we sorted out the problem we had and we can move on from there.

And like usual, if he treats u bad let me know and ill sort him out haha"

I'm not too worried since she'll probably stay friends with my sister for a while so anything is possible in the future.

Edited May 7, 2014 by Rexxy

May 8, 2014

Ok for some bad news, this is how she replied:

"I think the best thing for us to do is, to keep it how it is now, I just don't think it would work out and i am seeing someone else now and as you know I'm not like that to also see other guys"

I know she isn't really seeing anyone at all, just talking to someone.

I replied with

"Ok then, if thats how you want it to be then thats fine. I'm not seeing that girl anymore so I thought I would ask since I have fun been around you. Atleast we sorted out the problem we had and we can move on from there.

And like usual, if he treats u bad let me know and ill sort him out haha"

I'm not too worried since she'll probably stay friends with my sister for a while so anything is possible in the future.

So hold on. She got pissed because you picked up a girl while flirting with her and she's "seeing someone" yet flirting with you.

Talk about double bloody standards. Op - that's not even slightly cool.

It I were you I would keep the friendship without the flirting. She can't have someone else and flirt with you yet throw a hissy fit when you go out with someone.

May 8, 2014

Ok for some bad news, this is how she replied:

"I think the best thing for us to do is, to keep it how it is now, I just don't think it would work out and i am seeing someone else now and as you know I'm not like that to also see other guys"

I know she isn't really seeing anyone at all, just talking to someone.

I replied with

"Ok then, if thats how you want it to be then thats fine. I'm not seeing that girl anymore so I thought I would ask since I have fun been around you. Atleast we sorted out the problem we had and we can move on from there.

And like usual, if he treats u bad let me know and ill sort him out haha"

I'm not too worried since she'll probably stay friends with my sister for a while so anything is possible in the future.

Ok well first off, i liked your post because you have exactly the right attitude and your responses were confident and cool. Sometimes we don't get what we want straightaway but it's a seed planted. Anything IS possible in the future. She basically said : "not now" rather than "never" ie i just see you as a friend. She doesn't or she would said that now. Now what I would do is back off a little so she can't have full access to you as she used to. She will miss you if there's anything between you. My vote is that there is. And although you said: if the guy treats you bad, you will sort him out--by NO means do you do this or discuss him with her. You do not want to be the sounding board for her guy troubles etc. That's backup, friendzone, disrespectful of her to do even if you offered. The way a mature person would take it: it's just a sweet sign-off and unless she is a self-centered twit with no respect for your feelings, she will not take you up on this offer. If she mentions the guy, she gets a one sentence leeway and short brief response from you and then subject changed.

By the way, as you said they are just talking so it will possibly implode. Make sure she doesn't just coming running to you if that happens. There's a difference between needing to be with anyone and choosing you. Two different types of coming back to you. You did good! I think you should go on with your life, don't give her too much attention and date other girls but don't flaunt it to her. Go a bit underground with your dating activities. She should be wondering. She will. Trust.

May 8, 2014

So you are clearly half way decent at flirting. What this does as far as the pickup community is concerned is pump buying temperature. It definitely would have helped you were trying to hide it from your sister, kinda plays into the naughtiness you know?

Anyhow the whole mating process is broken down (I believe) into attraction, comfort, then seduction. You basically just stayed in attraction by pumping buying temp., and probably did minimum comfort because you weren't really in a place to qualify her/ask her what stuff she's into/talk about cool things you are into/etc. She basically needs a reason to backwards logic that she likes you other than the flirting.

Anyhow your whole post is describe really well by a guy named "tyler durden". He was at the time a master pickup artist, so a lot of the stuff in the post is way over my head, your head, most peoples heads. Anyhow with practice you would assumingly get good enough to sleep with the girl if she was like this.

Anyhow link to the post I'm talking about: Lockup - Buying Temperature - Escalation (TD) - The Venusian Arts Forum

Oh and when she freaked out at you this was basically a poop test (can't use the real word referenced in the article lol), which you failed very spectacularly, thus ending the pickup, as predicted by tyler durden.

I think you're only chance of starting this again is doing the "lock up" thing td is talking about. Good luck, I've never attempted half the **** thats in that article, I just know it exists....

May 8, 2014

Ok well first off, i liked your post because you have exactly the right attitude and your responses were confident and cool. Sometimes we don't get what we want straightaway but it's a seed planted. Anything IS possible in the future. She basically said : "not now" rather than "never" ie i just see you as a friend. She doesn't or she would said that now. Now what I would do is back off a little so she can't have full access to you as she used to. She will miss you if there's anything between you. My vote is that there is. And although you said: if the guy treats you bad, you will sort him out--by NO means do you do this or discuss him with her. You do not want to be the sounding board for her guy troubles etc. That's backup, friendzone, disrespectful of her to do even if you offered. The way a mature person would take it: it's just a sweet sign-off and unless she is a self-centered twit with no respect for your feelings, she will not take you up on this offer. If she mentions the guy, she gets a one sentence leeway and short brief response from you and then subject changed.

By the way, as you said they are just talking so it will possibly implode. Make sure she doesn't just coming running to you if that happens. There's a difference between needing to be with anyone and choosing you. Two different types of coming back to you. You did good! I think you should go on with your life, don't give her too much attention and date other girls but don't flaunt it to her. Go a bit underground with your dating activities. She should be wondering. She will. Trust.

I completely agree with this, the "sort him out" comment was only a joke since we have talked about something similar before. I know not to start talking about the other man.

I have no problem backing off and making myself less available, that will be easy. I'll start seeing other girls keeping myself busy working towards improving my interaction and 'game' with women.

Thanks for the help.

May 9, 2014

So you are clearly half way decent at flirting. What this does as far as the pickup community is concerned is pump buying temperature. It definitely would have helped you were trying to hide it from your sister, kinda plays into the naughtiness you know?

Anyhow the whole mating process is broken down (I believe) into attraction, comfort, then seduction. You basically just stayed in attraction by pumping buying temp., and probably did minimum comfort because you weren't really in a place to qualify her/ask her what stuff she's into/talk about cool things you are into/etc. She basically needs a reason to backwards logic that she likes you other than the flirting.

Anyhow your whole post is describe really well by a guy named "tyler durden". He was at the time a master pickup artist, so a lot of the stuff in the post is way over my head, your head, most peoples heads. Anyhow with practice you would assumingly get good enough to sleep with the girl if she was like this.

Anyhow link to the post I'm talking about: Lockup - Buying Temperature - Escalation (TD) - The Venusian Arts Forum

Oh and when she freaked out at you this was basically a poop test (can't use the real word referenced in the article lol), which you failed very spectacularly, thus ending the pickup, as predicted by tyler durden.

I think you're only chance of starting this again is doing the "lock up" thing td is talking about. Good luck, I've never attempted half the **** thats in that article, I just know it exists....

I've heard of Tyler before so I'll have a look at that post asap.

And the part you explained about the comfort zone is exactly right, having my sister around always made it difficult to really get down to the talking part therefore we would mainly flirt which isn't that effective for getting that comfortable with each other.

I've never heard of the test thing but I'll start researching these things and put them into practice.

Thanks for the help.

May 9, 2014

So hold on. She got pissed because you picked up a girl while flirting with her and she's "seeing someone" yet flirting with you.

Talk about double bloody standards. Op - that's not even slightly cool.

It I were you I would keep the friendship without the flirting. She can't have someone else and flirt with you yet throw a hissy fit when you go out with someone.

Ye it's quite confusing, I'm going to take away all the luxuries from our friendship like flirting and things like that.

Move on, start dating other girls, and see what happens in the future.

I really appreciate all the help you gave me.

May 9, 2014

And for all those that are interested in what happened after that message, she never replied but I know she saw it.

If she isn't willing to show me some sort of respect after that then I'm not going to waste my time on someone that doesn't really care for others.

Thankyou to everyone that helped me through this, if it weren't for your replies I wouldn't of even apologised to her but rather start an argument about how I was in the right which would of been a huge waste of time.

As you guys helped me out a lot I'll definitely return the favour helping others out as much as I can.

I'll be studying psychology soon so maybe that could be some use around these forums.

Thanks to everyone!

May 9, 2014

Ye it's quite confusing, I'm going to take away all the luxuries from our friendship like flirting and things like that.

Move on, start dating other girls, and see what happens in the future.

I really appreciate all the help you gave me.

You really should. As much as you like the girl if she thinks those standards are acceptable she is nuts!!

At least you apologised and have some sort of friendship.

Go get em tiger

May 9, 2014

I completely agree with this, the "sort him out" comment was only a joke since we have talked about something similar before. I know not to start talking about the other man.

I have no problem backing off and making myself less available, that will be easy. I'll start seeing other girls keeping myself busy working towards improving my interaction and 'game' with women.

Thanks for the help.

You seem like you already have "game" to me. Best of luck...

May 9, 2014

lol fwiw there is no way in hell I would have apologized for a girls ****ty behaviour like that. A friend of mine had a girl just get super pissed at him for no reason. He didn't go apologize, he just decided that he wasn't going to go after her because she was probably too much drama. I think girls that like you will get upset at you for no reason, it seems to happen fairly regularly.

As far as the test I'm talking about just google how to pass ____ tests where ____ is a word that rhymes with wit and starts with sh.

Edited May 9, 2014 by dispatch3d

May 9, 2014

lol fwiw there is no way in hell I would have apologized for a girls ****ty behaviour like that. A friend of mine had a girl just get super pissed at him for no reason. He didn't go apologize, he just decided that he wasn't going to go after her because she was probably too much drama. I think girls that like you will get upset at you for no reason, it seems to happen fairly regularly.

I don't think she got upset for "no reason". To be honest, she may be immature or even dramatic. But in all fairness, the two of them had been flirting and maybe it was enough to presume that things were going to move forward--in which case, OP was also was also not making a smart move/at fault or disrespectful if he wanted that to happen or if there was a presumption that it would. Idk, but I think he learned something from this incidence. And bottom line, it doesn't mean he shouldn't date others until he is exclusive with this girl or a specific girl but it just messes up your game to talk about in front of one of your prospects--and makes the guy look like a jerk. keep that stuff private because flaunting it makes you look bad & doesn't really help your overall game. OP can apologize for his actions (which he did) and could still come to same conclusion that she is not worth the drama if she is acting like a jerk herself or a drama queen. There is something to be said for conducting life with integrity. Just for purely your own purposes.

May 9, 2014

lol fwiw there is no way in hell I would have apologized for a girls ****ty behaviour like that. A friend of mine had a girl just get super pissed at him for no reason. He didn't go apologize, he just decided that he wasn't going to go after her because she was probably too much drama. I think girls that like you will get upset at you for no reason, it seems to happen fairly regularly.

As far as the test I'm talking about just google how to pass ____ tests where ____ is a word that rhymes with wit and starts with sh.

I'll look it up now and put it to work with future girls.

I'm excited to learn more info like this.

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