Hopeful30 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Not by any display of behaviour, but do they assume she must be just because she's so beautiful and probably knows it? And if you do think she is arrogant, is that why you don't approach? Cuz you assume arrogance means b*tchy and rude?
Woggle Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Not really. You can tell by observing a woman for about 15 minutes. Body language says it all. 2
AntiSocal Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Nope. I find that the girls with low self esteem tend to be the ones who play the arrogant roll. Projecting unto others and all that. Usually when i see a really beautiful woman, like stunning, i assume that she must be really down to earth and friendly. I don't get intimidated, but then again i'm not the type of guy who just approaches random girls 24/7. I wait for women to give me a sign that i should approach before i rush into anything. If you think that men are intimidated by your looks just act more friendly and flirty. When you see a dude that you're interested in look at him, make eye contact, and give him a smile. Bet if you start doing this you'll have men approaching you daily. 1
Woggle Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Nope. I find that the girls with low self esteem tend to be the ones who play the arrogant roll. Projecting unto others and all that. Usually when i see a really beautiful woman, like stunning, i assume that she must be really down to earth and friendly. I don't get intimidated, but then again i'm not the type of guy who just approaches random girls 24/7. I wait for women to give me a sign that i should approach before i rush into anything. If you think that men are intimidated by your looks just act more friendly and flirty. When you see a dude that you're interested in look at him, make eye contact, and give him a smile. Bet if you start doing this you'll have men approaching you daily. I agree with this. Ironically it is women who see themselves as average that tend to have the worst personalities. They are actually offended that certain men think they have a chance with them. Really hot women who know they are hot tend not to be like that. 6
Author Hopeful30 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Posted March 27, 2014 I agree with this. Ironically it is women who see themselves as average that tend to have the worst personalities. They are actually offended that certain men think they have a chance with them. Really hot women who know they are hot tend not to be like that. If that's truly the case, then why are so many hot women single? lol
AntiSocal Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) If that's truly the case, then why are so many hot women single? lol Just because a beautiful girl is nice (they usually are, talk to some) doesn't really mean that she doesn't have standards. And a lot of men are so intimidated by beauty that they won't even talk to the hottest girl in a room. And when they do talk to her they'll come off as super insecure and obviously infatuated. No girl wants a man who loses his cool as soon as he sees an attractive woman. Edit: Step to her with confidence and see her as a person. Not a sexual object or a set of boobs. But another person that you want to get to know. Doing that alone will set you apart from 80% of the men she meets on a daily basis. And from that point on it is really up to chemistry. Edited March 27, 2014 by AntiSocal 5
jay1983 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I agree with this. Ironically it is women who see themselves as average that tend to have the worst personalities. They are actually offended that certain men think they have a chance with them. Really hot women who know they are hot tend not to be like that. I've noticed a lot of stuck up average women. I think it's gotten worse, due to social media. OLD where they get a crap load of messages. Facebook where they get 30 likes for posting a pic, instagram, tumblr and all the other s**t like that. 1
jay1983 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 You can tell if a women is approachable within the first 10 seconds. Most of time if she likes you, she'll have a big smile. You can try to talk to them it won't kill you. Be confidence if they freeze up when you speak to them, then your looking good. But most of them know they're hot and you'll get rejected, which doesn't matter cause you'll be in the same place you were before you tried.
carhill Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I assume they're women, though a couple over the decades have been transgender. Behavior describes any future opinions. 1
Author Hopeful30 Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 But most of them know they're hot and you'll get rejected, which doesn't matter cause you'll be in the same place you were before you tried. You don't know this. I'm seriously attracted to my last man, I think he's extremely gorgeous and I dated him for a while. When other people saw us together, the first thing they said was "Wtf are you doing with this guy? You're WAY out of his league" yet I never saw it this way. He said so himself that he's not very attractive and that I'm far more attractive than he is, and I was like what?! I don't see it. I think he's so attractive and I can't stop starring at him when he's around. If he didn't approached me and ask me out (because apparently "I'm out of his league") then we never would have dated. You honestly never know. Just because YOU think you're average doesn't mean all other women think so. 4
jay1983 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 You don't know this. I'm seriously attracted to my last man, I think he's extremely gorgeous and I dated him for a while. When other people saw us together, the first thing they said was "Wtf are you doing with this guy? You're WAY out of his league" yet I never saw it this way. He said so himself that he's not very attractive and that I'm far more attractive than he is, and I was like what?! I don't see it. I think he's so attractive and I can't stop starring at him when he's around. If he didn't approached me and ask me out (because apparently "I'm out of his league") then we never would have dated. You honestly never know. Just because YOU think you're average doesn't mean all other women think so. That's awesome and I'm not being sarcastic. I said most, as in a lot of times. That's why I said to try anyway, if rejected you'll be in the same spot you were before. Meaning you didn't lose anything. Your one of those chicks were the guy might have a shot. But trust, it'll be a lot of rejections before they find someone like you. Which again, doesn't matter. I get rejected all the time and get back up 1
Author Hopeful30 Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) ^^ Where do you live? If it's somewhere in North America then yes.... women here are really stuck up for some reason lol If you live somewhere in Europe, I would be quite surprised... EDIT: If only women in North America are like this... I mean.. it's a stretch but I would blame feminism. It's not as prominent anywhere else in the world and it seems that women being b*tches and thinking they're all that when they're not is isolated to the West... I personally think feminism (and I don't mean the right to vote, I mean complete stupid and over the top feminism) is to blame for the death of chivalry and for men not wanting to approach women... Feminism isn't as prevalent in other parts of the world and you don't see beautiful women (or women in general) ever complain about a lack of sex or male attention...and you DEF don't see men being afraid to approach. Dating is so much easier because gender roles are so intact... perhaps its the blurring or softening of gender roles in the West which is why it's so hard to find a partner...men are the new women and women are the new misogynists. Not to say it was a good thing, but it seemed to work better the other way around.... Edited March 28, 2014 by Hopeful30
thefooloftheyear Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Arrogant? Nah....Insecure?? Usually... TFY
ThaWholigan Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I'm sure some men absolutely do, usually projection of their own insecurities or a few bad experiences with particular visually aesthetic women. I don't believe beauty is a prerequisite for arrogance or insecurity, but those who have the potential for such behavior will be easily pushed towards it. 4
xxoo Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Is it different if it is a beautiful woman with a kind, friendly smile?
Owl Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I would say that I don't believe that most men feel that all beautiful women are arrogant. There ARE arrogant women out there, there are vain women out there...and there are women out there that are neither of these. I'd say that men often don't approach beautiful women with the intent (hope) of starting a relationship with them because they fear rejection. There's an assumption that her 'standards' are correspondingly higher, and so a man who feels less attractive (and we have those same insecurities that women have too) about themselves often won't even consider attempting to have a relationship with a woman that they feel certain wouldn't consider a relationship with them. Who wants to face that kind of rejection? 2
jba10582 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 you can walk past someone and notice if they look, friendly, shy, nervous, awkward, distracted, feeling superior, mad, focused, confused, tired ect... Has nothing to do with physical appearance. We all learn this as a baby. 1
Medium.Lumo Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Interesting post Anti! I agree with what you're saying here. Before we started dating, my girlfriend and I were friends. I never thought I seriously had a chance because she is one of those hot girls, with a great down to earth personality. I never actually asked her out, but she was interested for a while... she had to give me obvious signs before I made any sort of move. Just because a beautiful girl is nice (they usually are, talk to some) doesn't really mean that she doesn't have standards. And a lot of men are so intimidated by beauty that they won't even talk to the hottest girl in a room. And when they do talk to her they'll come off as super insecure and obviously infatuated. No girl wants a man who loses his cool as soon as he sees an attractive woman. Edit: Step to her with confidence and see her as a person. Not a sexual object or a set of boobs. But another person that you want to get to know. Doing that alone will set you apart from 80% of the men she meets on a daily basis. And from that point on it is really up to chemistry.
Owl Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 you can walk past someone and notice if they look, friendly, shy, nervous, awkward, distracted, feeling superior, mad, focused, confused, tired ect... Has nothing to do with physical appearance. We all learn this as a baby. Granted...but men in particular can often have tremendous difficulty in judging whether or not a woman...any woman...will consider a 'relationship' with them. That's why we get 'friendzoned' so blindly, and so often. Because we usually suck at judging her level of interest in us...and if we think she's more attractive than we think we are...we're much less likely to put ourselves emotionally at risk.
jba10582 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I was directly answering the OP's question in a way that I process non-verbals and do NOT think my interpretation of their internal feelings or projected outward non-verbals has ANYTHING to do with how physically attractive they are. If they hide or cover up how they are internally feel it appears incongruent.
SammySammy Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Some men do believe beautiful women are arrogant, unapproachable, "out of their league" and other silly stuff like that. There are a few men who only approach beautiful women because we've learned those assumptions are not necessarily true. We know that other men are too afraid to approach - not knowing that beautiful woman could also be kind, loving and ... lonely. 1
Author Hopeful30 Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 Some men do believe beautiful women are arrogant, unapproachable, "out of their league" and other silly stuff like that. There are a few men who only approach beautiful women because we've learned those assumptions are not necessarily true. We know that other men are too afraid to approach - not knowing that beautiful woman could also be kind, loving and ... lonely. MidKnightDreams... will you marry me? 1
SammySammy Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 MidKnightDreams... will you marry me? Can I get to know you first?
Weezy1973 Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 I assume an objectively beautiful woman would like to be with an objectively beautiful man. And, as facts would have it, couples tend to sort themselves out by objective attractiveness levels. I'm not a beautiful man, therefore I do not approach beautiful women. I'm actually not even really attracted to beautiful women even though I know they're objectively attractive. Not sure if this is a defense mechanism or it's natural - as honestly, most of the time people shoot "out of their league" it does end in rejection, so reproductively speaking, it's probably more efficient to focus on those in your league. 1
M30USA Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 If you're talking about PHYSICALLY beautiful women, then yes I do. I fully admit. Call it stereotyping but I believe some stereotypes happen for a reason. The reason for this is that women who are physically beautiful MUST be arrogant and snotty or else they'll have too many men making advances.
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