It's sad that girls are judged by how many male friends they have or have not

March 27, 2014

No, I won't. Do you know what your post is? The mating call of "no one will f*** me." I mean, you had a girl turn you down because of your colour, so you decided to chase her and try to have sex with her.

How sad are you?

How sad are you? You have some kind of personal problem with me so you follow me around a forum trying to attack every single post that i make?

If you want to sit around and trade personal attacks go to a forum for such things. This is a forum to discuss dating and dating issues. If you aren't going to contribute to the discussion in some way why do you feel the need to reply or quote me?

Second of all that same girl who turned me down? Still ended up hooking up with me. I get PLENTY of girls to say the least. And the fact that you feel the need to try and undermine me by calling me desperate really proves how ignorant you are. Don't try to project your problems and insecurities onto me buddy.

Honestly? You need a life. At the end of the day your opinion of me does not matter. So don't try and attack every post that i make with your BS opinions that are in no way based in logic.

Either bring experience to the table? Bring a logical argument to the table? Or go ------------> play internet warrior with someone else.

March 27, 2014

That's not cool, I agree with Pickflicker, just so you know. I think that you need to go and cool of.

How was my reply "not cool"? He called my post bull and i asked him to come with a valid argument. If he can't do that then what is he contributing exactly?

I in no way attacked him, insulted him, or got "hot" in anyway. Simply pointed out the facts.

And he obviously has no points to argue because instead of telling me what he disagreed with in my post, he went straight to personal attacks. Again his problems are not my problems. I don't need pickflickers approval.

March 27, 2014

How sad are you? You have some kind of personal problem with me so you follow me around a forum trying to attack every single post that i make?

If you want to sit around and trade personal attacks go to a forum for such things. This is a forum to discuss dating and dating issues. If you aren't going to contribute to the discussion in some way why do you feel the need to reply or quote me?

Second of all that same girl who turned me down? Still ended up hooking up with me. I get PLENTY of girls to say the least. And the fact that you feel the need to try and undermine me by calling me desperate really proves how ignorant you are. Don't try to project your problems and insecurities onto me buddy.

Honestly? You need a life. At the end of the day your opinion of me does not matter. So don't try and attack every post that i make with your BS opinions that are in no way based in logic.

Either bring experience to the table? Bring a logical argument to the table? Or go ------------> play internet warrior with someone else.

Not following you. The only opinions here that are BS, are yours. No one who successfully dates, is as bitter as you. Women who have male friends are not ugly, or fat, or anything of the sort. People are people, and the genders can be friends with no ulterior motive.

The only person who thinks otherwise, is the person who wants to f*** everything that moves. Or pursues people who reject them because they don't get it.

Wow - one contrary opinion and you've gone completely off the deep end. I wonder how you handle real problems.

March 27, 2014

How was my reply "not cool"? He called my post bull and i asked him to come with a valid argument. If he can't do that then what is he contributing exactly?

I in no way attacked him, insulted him, or got "hot" in anyway. Simply pointed out the facts.

And he obviously has no points to argue because instead of telling me what he disagreed with in my post, he went straight to personal attacks. Again his problems are not my problems. I don't need pickflickers approval.

First of all she is a "she" not a "he''. And it wasn't cool because you came to strong on her that's why.

March 27, 2014

How was my reply "not cool"? He called my post bull and i asked him to come with a valid argument. If he can't do that then what is he contributing exactly?

I in no way attacked him, insulted him, or got "hot" in anyway. Simply pointed out the facts.

And he obviously has no points to argue because instead of telling me what he disagreed with in my post, he went straight to personal attacks. Again his problems are not my problems. I don't need pickflickers approval.

*smirk*.

I'm of the vagina squad. You would have worked that out, had you paid attention.

March 27, 2014

There's a good chance she's getting off on some level over him fantasizing about her?

I doubt she knew. I didn't give anything away.

The most physical contact we had was hugging, and sometimes she rubbed my arm or so forth.

I never made any physical moves towards her until she started.

March 27, 2014

Not following you. The only opinions here that are BS, are yours. No one who successfully dates, is as bitter as you. Women who have male friends are not ugly, or fat, or anything of the sort. People are people, and the genders can be friends with no ulterior motive.

The only person who thinks otherwise, is the person who wants to f*** everything that moves. Or pursues people who reject them because they don't get it.

Wow - one contrary opinion and you've gone completely off the deep end. I wonder how you handle real problems.

But where was this contrary opinion? You didn't state any opinions just jumped into arms because my post was straight "bulls***"

And gone off the deep end? Far from it. You're the one who has had to resort to personal attacks because once again? You aren't saying anything.

Its obvious that my post struck a nerve. Are you one of those ladies with all the male friends:eek:

First of all you should learn some reading comprehension. First thing i said in my original post in this thread QUOTE: "

There is nothing wrong with a girl having a few male friends. Especially if boundaries have been set."

Never claimed that every girl who has male friends is ugly. What i said was, most (as in THE MAJORITY) of girls who have all male friends are either unattractive OR vindictive. Unlike you i take people as individuals and i don't jump to conclusions. So no i would never say, or imply, that every single girl whose ever had a male friend was unattractive. Again you're projecting.

And the majority of men? They have this thing called testosterone. Makes them want to sex everything that moves. And plenty of people in this thread have said the EXACT same thing about men. Yet you pick my post to call out? I wonder why?

And as far as me pursuing people who reject me? Again, she hooked up with me. Twice. So whats your point?

And btw being successful in relationships has nothing to do with being successful with women. I have a phone full of girls that I can call at the drop of a hat. Doesn't mean i see them as girlfriend material. Again your argument is invalid.

March 27, 2014

But where was this contrary opinion? You didn't state any opinions just jumped into arms because my post was straight "bulls***"

And gone off the deep end? Far from it. You're the one who has had to resort to personal attacks because once again? You aren't saying anything.

Its obvious that my post struck a nerve. Are you one of those ladies with all the male friends:eek:

First of all you should learn some reading comprehension. First thing i said in my original post in this thread QUOTE: "
There is nothing wrong with a girl having a few male friends. Especially if boundaries have been set."

Never claimed that every girl who has male friends is ugly. What i said was, most (as in THE MAJORITY) of girls who have all male friends are either unattractive OR vindictive. Unlike you i take people as individuals and i don't jump to conclusions. So no i would never say, or imply, that every single girl whose ever had a male friend was unattractive. Again you're projecting.

And the majority of men? They have this thing called testosterone. Makes them want to sex everything that moves. And plenty of people in this thread have said the EXACT same thing about men. Yet you pick my post to call out? I wonder why?

And as far as me pursuing people who reject me? Again, she hooked up with me. Twice. So whats your point?

And btw being successful in relationships has nothing to do with being successful with women. I have a phone full of girls that I can call at the drop of a hat. Doesn't mean i see them as girlfriend material. Again your argument is invalid.

I hope all the men on here are paying attention to the low opinion have of them as well. It's sad when you, or anyone, reduces men to animals that want to have sex with anything that moves.

You vilified women who have male friends. Please don't back-peddle now. It's embarrassing (for you) And your temper! Tut tut.

March 27, 2014

I hope all the men on here are paying attention to the low opinion have of them as well. It's sad when you, or anyone, reduces men to animals that want to have sex with anything that moves.

You vilified women who have male friends. Please don't back-peddle now. It's embarrassing (for you) And your temper! Tut tut.

But when did i try to back peddle? I never vilified anything. Posted exact quotes from my post. Quotes that you obviously can't argue with so again you start spewing ignorance that isn't based in logic.

And so what if I did vilify them in your eyes? Is that not my opinion? I do not speak for all men. So instead of getting angry because you saw yourself in my post, why not actually say which part you disagreed with? Lol. Guess it was the anger talking.

You got mad because you have a lot of male friends. /discussion.

And men are animals and will act accordingly. /discussion. You are a fool if you truly believe that hormones don't play a HUGE role in the decisions that people make.

And embarrassed? What do i have to be embarrassed about? When have i once shown my "temper"? Lol.

If anything you're the one who has gotten embarrassed. You chose to quote my post swearing (sign of ignorance right ther) because you were angry, i asked you to come with a valid argument, instead of coming with a valid argument you then chose to start hurling personal attacks. When i replied again you started up with the personal attacks. You have no argument. You aren't saying anything new or bringing anything to the discussion. You simply got angry and couldn't help yourself. Thats okay. But again, you're the one who should be embarrassed.

I haven't attacked you personally or had to use curse words to get my point across once. Yet i'm the angry one. Ha, ha, haaaaa.

March 27, 2014

I noticed while being at this forum and also on other websites. The huge negativity toward girls who had male friends ( some one was complaining his gf had more male friends and all the comments suggested he leave her!)
They either call them sl$ts or attention seekers or drama queen.

We are in the 21st century and this still going on.

Let me say that your girlfriend will lie, cheat, fight, and leave you whether she had zero male friends or 20 male friends. Simply because she doesn't love you enough or you deserve it.

Girls who had more male friends might only had them because they feel happier around guys or they get along better.

I am appalled by the way people talk about girls who had more male friends. It's sad and upsetting.

Girls should be judged according to their own individual behaviors not whether their friends are females or males

If a girl is good for you, she will be good no matter what!

I have only experienced one man in my relationship history who has had an issue with my male friends.

These are male friends I have known for 10/20 years.

I've been there when they met their girlfriends, we've spent holiays together, weekends away, days out, I've been to their fiancee's hen weekend, been to their wedding, celebrated the birth of their children with them.

The one guy who had the problem with me and male friends was massively insecure - he turned out to be controlling and emotionally abusive.

Some of the things he had problems with:

He was untrusting to the point it was easier to just give him my passwords to facebook. After splitting with the guy I discovered that he had deleted two of my male friends - one was a guy I have known since I was 10, the other a work colleague who I have known for about 6 years.

Me and these guys didn't even communicate on FB and my guy had never met either of them. I didn't ever even go looking up their profiles.

We have a work event that happens each year, it's seminars all day, some activities and a dinner dance with an overnight stay.

I couldn't attend this event for other reasons when I was with this guy.

I told him about it though. He said that if it turned out I could go then he would come too.

I mentioned it was a staff only event.

He went into a crazy rant. He told me that 'those are the kind of events where everyone sleeps with each other'.

I laughed and said that on occasion something happens between the youngies but that nothing had ever happened to me in the 5 years I had been attending them.

I also asked why on earth he would think I would suddenly be the type of woman who change their core values and do something like that.

He didn't respond to that but informed me that I would.

He also told me that if ever I did attend one of these events or anything like it that he would turn up for the evening because I needed to be kept an eye on. He was totally serious.

I've never cheated on anyone, not in anyway, ever.

I'm also a well respected Management Accountant and work directly for the Finance Director and Managing Director and I'm in my forties.

Basically he was just insecure, he just believed that I would be stupid enough to risk my job if someone batted their eyes at me. I found it really disrespectful to my character.

Another time we had plans to go meet my friends - for the first time - a mixture of the guys and the girls.

We were all ready to go and were due to meet them in 5 minutes.

My guy was a guy who very rarely initiated sex and it always had to be on his terms - no fun for me (if you get my drift).

So, he decided it was the right time for trying to drag me up to bed. He didn't want to meet my friends and preferred the idea of disrespecting their time.

Needless to say he didn't last long. I got rid of the guy.

March 27, 2014

But when did i try to back peddle? I never vilified anything. Posted exact quotes from my post. Quotes that you obviously can't argue with so again you start spewing ignorance that isn't based in logic.

And so what if I did vilify them in your eyes? Is that not my opinion? I do not speak for all men. So instead of getting angry because you saw yourself in my post, why not actually say which part you disagreed with? Lol. Guess it was the anger talking.

You got mad because you have a lot of male friends. /discussion.

And men are animals and will act accordingly. /discussion. You are a fool if you truly believe that hormones don't play a HUGE role in the decisions that people make.

And embarrassed? What do i have to be embarrassed about? When have i once shown my "tempter"? Lol.

If anything you're the one who has gotten embarrassed. You chose to quote my post swearing (sign of ignorance right ther) because you were angry, i asked you to come with a valid argument, instead of coming with a valid argument you then chose to start hurling personal attacks. When i replied again you started up with the personal attacks. You have no argument. You aren't saying anything new or bringing anything to the discussion. You simply got angry and couldn't help yourself. Thats okay. But again, you're the one who should be embarrassed.

I haven't attacked you personally or had to use curse words to get my point across once. Yet i'm the angry one. Ha, ha, haaaaa.

Hmmm...swearing is not a sign of ignorance. They've actually done scientific studies about the benefits of it. You should look it up, it's very interesting.

As for you "voicing an opinion", you just attacked me for voicing mine (which, since you didn't read the first time, is the mature, secure people can have friends of both genders because they see one another as people, and not hormone-filled bags of skin, or ugly, or fat) - but apparently, because I've had the gall to disagree with you (shocking!), you're throwing a Mount Vesuvius-sized tantrum.

The last thing i am, is angry. Acerbic, yes. But not angry

March 27, 2014

I noticed while being at this forum and also on other websites. The huge negativity toward girls who had male friends ( some one was complaining his gf had more male friends and all the comments suggested he leave her!)
They either call them sl$ts or attention seekers or drama queen.

We are in the 21st century and this still going on.

Let me say that your girlfriend will lie, cheat, fight, and leave you whether she had zero male friends or 20 male friends. Simply because she doesn't love you enough or you deserve it.

Girls who had more male friends might only had them because they feel happier around guys or they get along better.

I am appalled by the way people talk about girls who had more male friends. It's sad and upsetting.

Girls should be judged according to their own individual behaviors not whether their friends are females or males

If a girl is good for you, she will be good no matter what!

I don't believe it's that simple. The problem isn't (for me) that the girl you're dating has guy friends, it's about boundaries. If the girl knows that her priority should be the boyfriend then no problem. If she is aware that some behavior, activities should be greatly limited, avoided as to not create the impression of impropriety, then no problem. The girl needs to know that things may need to change when she has a bf. Not to completely cut off these friends, but rather back off and limit contact. This is especially an issue if the boy "friends" are exes. It's simply not the safest and healthiest kind of relationship to get involved in. OP, you ought to have a good idea as to why some feel this way.

March 27, 2014

Hmmm...swearing is not a sign of ignorance. They've actually done scientific studies about the benefits of it. You should look it up, it's very interesting.

As for you "voicing an opinion", you just attacked me for voicing mine (which, since you didn't read the first time, is the mature, secure people can have friends of both genders because they see one another as people, and not hormone-filled bags of skin, or ugly, or fat) - but apparently, because I've had the gall to disagree with you (shocking!), you're throwing a Mount Vesuvius-sized tantrum.

The last thing i am, is angry. Acerbic, yes. But not angry

When did i attack you for voicing your opinion? I pointed out the ignorance in your post and asked you to please go and return when you had thought up some valid points. Instead of simply stating the part of my post which you disagreed with? You chose to hurl person attacks (proof that umad).

Now i am the one who is throwing a tantrum? Lol. I have not attacked you once. Have not "thrown a tantrum" once.

March 27, 2014

And I thought I was invading Noproblems thread. You need to calm down and plese stop being so bitter, your user name says it all AntiSocal.

I don't have anything against you, don't get me wrong, I was just defending my friend because you were mean to her.

March 27, 2014

When did i attack you for voicing your opinion? I pointed out the ignorance in your post and asked you to please go and return when you had thought up some valid points. Instead of simply stating the part of my post which you disagreed with? You chose to hurl person attacks (proof that umad).

Now i am the one who is throwing a tantrum? Lol. I have not attacked you once. Have not "thrown a tantrum" once.

I think you've got a recall problem. That's unfortunate. Anyways, been fun.

March 27, 2014

I think you've got a recall problem. That's unfortunate. Anyways, been fun.

No, you are simply illogical. You make false claims that aren't based in fact and you can't back them up. You know that i never attacked you, you know that i never swore at you, you know that i have not once lost my temper or tried to turn things personal.

You on the other hand? Did all of the above multiple times. Proof is in the pudding. So yes, be done.

March 27, 2014

Think i`ll buy you a drink David.

March 27, 2014

It's all relative and proportional. Í'm sure there are men who solely hang out with women to get in their pants as there men who genuinly enjoy the company of women and stay friends for not so superficial reasons. Similarly there are women that keep men around them for the egoboost but that does not mean there aren not women who have honest friendships with the opposite gender.

It's up to us to see how that all fits when we meet a specific potential partner.

Or you can just ditch them right away if that's not your cup of tea.

March 27, 2014

I disagree with you somewhat, Anti.

Guys are capable of controlling themselves, brohemian. I was friends with my girlfriend for months before we got together. When she was with her ex I respected that.

Then when she broke up I didn't make a move until she did.

It's like my brother's BMW. I would like to have it but I won't steal it. Because it's wrong.

I will say you're right about the desire though. I fantasised about her pretty much the entire time we were friends. But I kept it to myself. She didn't know what I was thinking.

March 28, 2014

Well, I can't reply to most of the comments.

One of the comment said ..It's no wonder guys friends disappear after they get gf.

From my experience, my female friends disappeared as soon as they got in a relationship ..So, yeah, that's why I don't care for friendships that much any more ..

I mean you put your feeling into a friendship thinking the other side would appreciate it, but as soon as they get a lover, they forget about you and all their time will be for their lovers. This applies for girls and guys ......

But this is not the my point here ..I said why the negativity toward girls who have male friends .. I know some of them fool around ... But we can't assume that most of them are like that.... Every girl and guy is different.

March 28, 2014

I've only seen it on here. Never experienced the same attitude in real life. Either they've hidden it really well, or I've just been lucky.

I had no idea it was such a big problem.

This is an anonymous forum. People say how they really feel here.

This is why I am able to have many female friends and can date many women, while having anti-feminist sentiments in a pro-feminist country.

It's because most people don't know how I truly feel about it.

March 28, 2014

I noticed while being at this forum and also on other websites. The huge negativity toward girls who had male friends ( some one was complaining his gf had more male friends and all the comments suggested he leave her!)
They either call them sl$ts or attention seekers or drama queen.

We are in the 21st century and this still going on.

Let me say that your girlfriend will lie, cheat, fight, and leave you whether she had zero male friends or 20 male friends. Simply because she doesn't love you enough or you deserve it.

Girls who had more male friends might only had them because they feel happier around guys or they get along better.

I am appalled by the way people talk about girls who had more male friends. It's sad and upsetting.

Girls should be judged according to their own individual behaviors not whether their friends are females or males

If a girl is good for you, she will be good no matter what!

It has been my experience that women with this way of thinking are predominantly young.

I am curious to know your age, but don't feel pressured to reveal it.

That being said, i will never get in a relationship with a woman who has many male friends ever again.

I did it several times, and it completely messed up the relationship dynamic.

I'd rather not write a novel with the 'why', it just did.

March 28, 2014

It's sad that you judge men who are not accepting of men that don't like women that have male friends.

Perception matters. Women would you date a guy with a lot of female friends? Honestly really think about that. What would you automatically assume about him? This is the problem with "judging" one side will complain about judging while at the same time they are passing "judgement" on the opposite sex. If you as a woman don't want to be judged then don't judge.

March 28, 2014

I used to not care If my girlfriend would go out 1 on 1 with other guys.... although I was never allowed to associate with other girls like that ( this concept is a two way street , with women being equally jealous , if not MORE jealous. )

After we broke up ... low and behold... cheated on me with about 4 different " friends " because they gave her attention.

One bad apple spoils the entire bunch, because I'm not putting myself in a vulnerable situation like that again.

March 28, 2014

It's sad that you judge men who are not accepting of men that don't like women that have male friends.

Dude, my head hurts!

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