I literally have no idea here. Girl has me so baffled...

[hasaquestion]

I guess I have no idea which led me to think. Damn, I'm really bad at this stuff. Considering she had liked a few other corny things I did, I did not think that text would be the end-all be-all.

 

Its just so awful when you can't get anything going for yourself dating wise. Online has been a total fail, and in-real-life is just over the top pathetic, with girls annihilating you in person, which over time destroys your confidence. I should probably give up on dating for a few years, after all this thread has mostly devolved into sharp criticism.

 

Chill out big guy. How do you learn these things? You F them up and then take notes.

 

Trust me. Every guy here has done what you did this time (think a girl's interested when she's not, suffocate her with texts trying to make it work) at some point in their lives. Its not a big deal what matters is whether or not you learn from it.

[GemmaUK]

The massively attractive part I have to wonder. One of those on paper/in practice things I feel. But seriously feel free to offer the reasons, I do appreciate it so much. I'm trying to learn and not be so lonely. I never quite know when she is free for a talk on the phone so I mostly text. We've had a few convo's on the phone. I'm not a big phone talker even though I know its more personal. I hate the awkward situation of 'if they don't pick up, voicemail or follow up text?' Hopefully that sounds reasonable, she was/is a super eager texter

 

 

OK, you asked for it...

These are my thoughts on texts and calls.

 

I am not a phone talker either....so I completely get you.

And text is easier and safer....

 

BUT..if a man I like calls me I will pick up if I am near my phone or I will call back or send an apology by text and explain that I couldn't pick up and is a text OK? There will be an apology for missing the call, an explanation why, an ask what it was about and a 'xx' at the end.

 

In some situations a text is OK. Some situations they are not so good.

 

But also, you have as much right as she does to like one or the other.

That part is about compromise..to be worked upon once 'in' a relationship. Communication methods in a relationship can make it thrive or as we see here mostly kill things. They also mostly seem to be via text!!!

 

Textng =

1. Easy

2. You can hold off and think of a great reply.

3. The great reply may not actually be your own personality - not good.

4. You have loads of time to think of a reply to theirs

5. If each person is being very clear it's great

6. If there is any miscommunication it's not.

7. It's easily faked

 

 

What looks good amongst teh following texts:

1. Wassup? xxx

2. What are you up to? xxxxxx

3. Good day gorgeous? xxxx

4. Hey, how did the meeting go today? Was your boss interested in you looking for the extra few hours a week?/Was your dog OK at the vets?/How did it go for your Mum with the interview?.

Let me know if you are still OK for Thursday as I can't wait to see you! xx

5.Hey, I am at the train station at Costa Coffee. See you in 5 xx

 

To me...they all look pretty bad.

None of them require my immediate attention. They are texts.

 

But that last one..No. 5..Wwell..he knows she is on her way and he knows she is on time. They have checked in with each other by text as it was the easiest way at the time and each is aware that they're on the move and busy...so No.5 wins for me!

 

The other thing about texts.

1. They are not at all spontaneous.

2. You never know whether they sit with their friends saying 'he asked me out..(yayyy!) ...but it was by text...(boooo!)....'

 

Have you ever wondered why Johnny Depp is so popular with women?

Nah! Me neither!

I am of optimum age and gender and all that to like him and I never did.

Except..I saw one interview. He blew me away. His voice!

He is an extreme..but I also love Jack Black's voice.

 

It's possible that you may call when she is not free (see the second paragraph above).

If she doesn't contact you (with a call or a text with an apology/explanation )back after two calls 12-20 hrs apart..then you move on.

You know right there and then she isn't that into you.

 

I already said that I am not keen on phone talking but I absolutely will when I'm interested..or when I have to contact my insurance people or my work or ...you get the idea..

 

It shows more cajones to call.

She gets to hear your voice and you hers.

It's easier to flirt and joke around.

It's more spontaneous.

 

Wouldn't it be horrible to have a life where nobody ever spoke out loud to you? Relationships can be like that if you don't work on talking right from the start.

 

But..voices are way too sexy to miss out on giving and hearing.

 

If...she isn't interested you will hear it in her voice. If she is interested in you you are far more likely to hear that too.

 

Women always say confidence in a man is attractive. Calling..is attractive. We all know it takes more guts to call than to text.

 

Calls only need to be a few minutes long too. 20 mins max.

[Gaeta]

When to call?

 

Here's my trick. Guy text or I text guy, he replies, I ask if he's busy, if he says no I ring him. I don't ask, I don't mention anything, I ring him.

 

You want to call at least each 3 communication, Text Text, call, Text Text, call. Your voice and personality will shine through much better than on text, your want your voice to become something familiar to her.

 

Also, well.....men call, boys text, I don't know if it's how the other ladies feel but that's how I feel. Text is to touch base. A conversation should be over the phone.

[drg2365]

You guys are right about the calls. I just never really no what to do for sure, I really liked this girl and just got pushed away, even though nothing that I did was intentional. It blows.

 

I deleted my profile online and I'm not even going to try for awhile. I don't know about you guys, but that online thing was the most devastatingly soul crushing thing ever. I 60 days, 119 women messaged (I tried for legitimate messages, taking in things in their profile and what not), 13 initial replies, 7 that went more than that, 2 people dated. The one girl was the girl in question, the other one we went out and I never heard from her again.

 

Even though everyone preaches patience, learn from messing up, date plenty of women at a time. Its hard to even freaking get a date and crushes you when you get a few dates out of that and get rejected. Like I said, I have friends that get laid all the time and laugh about how they never call them back. And I go months in between dates.

[Hello_is_it_me]

You guys are right about the calls. I just never really no what to do for sure, I really liked this girl and just got pushed away, even though nothing that I did was intentional. It blows.

 

I deleted my profile online and I'm not even going to try for awhile. I don't know about you guys, but that online thing was the most devastatingly soul crushing thing ever. I 60 days, 119 women messaged (I tried for legitimate messages, taking in things in their profile and what not), 13 initial replies, 7 that went more than that, 2 people dated. The one girl was the girl in question, the other one we went out and I never heard from her again.

 

Even though everyone preaches patience, learn from messing up, date plenty of women at a time. Its hard to even freaking get a date and crushes you when you get a few dates out of that and get rejected. Like I said, I have friends that get laid all the time and laugh about how they never call them back. And I go months in between dates.

 

What happened with the 5 that "went more than that" but you didn't date? Did you learn something from the online dating thing? Like, something that you did that worked? Something that didn't work? Gotta analyze yourself man.

[drg2365]

What happened with the 5 that "went more than that" but you didn't date? Did you learn something from the online dating thing? Like, something that you did that worked? Something that didn't work? Gotta analyze yourself man.

 

We emailed a few times and they never gave me their number.

[Hello_is_it_me]

Did you ask for it?

[drg2365]

Of course I did. I'm not stupid. They never responded. I learned that online dating was basically a woman's domain. Due to the terrible lack of replies, I never really found what 'worked' or what didn't work, just you better be over 30 and claim you make a kajillion dollars because that's what 90% what was in women's 'looking for' section. Not to un-like real life, but I got rejected at an alarming pace that really made me feel like crap. I actually thought it would be a good way to meet women and date them, I'm considered fairly good looking, have my own place, a good job, try to be nice to people (from the earlier posts I'm to nice, how terrible) and it just reinforced being lonely

 

Like with this girl finally I had a breakthrough and we had a few great times, but it just went the 'oh well whatever' route when (nit picking) its on the ethical side to tell a person -who kissed you on your front porch or your parents house- that you don't see things working out. Again 3 dates doesn't qualify you for that but its more respectful than freezing someone out or just slowly using them for attention (she dd contact me twice over the weekend). And yet, I come here all the time and see girls complaining about they slept with guys too fast and they never called them back. And the general consensus hear was I was too nice. Sort of makes you want to beat your head into a wall. 2 month subscription, 13/119 response rate, 2 girls gave their number, 1 went total ghost after a nice first date. 1 was this girl. Doesn't make you feel to awesome about yourself does it?

Edited March 26, 2014 by drg2365

[Gaeta]

Of course I did. I'm not stupid. They never responded. I learned that online dating was basically a woman's domain. Due to the terrible lack of replies, I never really found what 'worked' or what didn't work, just you better be over 30 and claim you make a kajillion dollars because that's what 90% what was in women's 'looking for' section. Not to un-like real life, but I got rejected at an alarming pace that really made me feel like crap. I actually thought it would be a good way to meet women and date them, I'm considered fairly good looking, have my own place, a good job, try to be nice to people (from the earlier posts I'm to nice, how terrible) and it just reinforced being lonely

 

Like with this girl finally I had a breakthrough and we had a few great times, but it just went the 'oh well whatever' route when (nit picking) its on the ethical side to tell a person -who kissed you on your front porch- that you don't see things working out. Again 3 dates doesn't qualify you for that but its more respectful than freezing someone out or just slowly using them for attention (she dd contact me twice over the weekend). And yet, I come here all the time and see girls complaining about they slept with guys too fast and they never called them back. 2 month subscription, 13/119 response rate, girls gave their number, 1 went total ghost after a nice first date. 1 was this girl. Doesn't make you feel to awesome about yourself does it?

awww don't get discouraged About you change site? What have you been using?

 

I go on OKcupid and I get 2 messages a day, I go on POF and I get 40 messages a day lol. Try something new!

[ChatroomHero]

I think others pretty much summed up what I was thinking, she has time to go camping and play kickball but no time for a date. This would seriously turn me off this girl pretty quick, to say she is too busy to go out, despite being active on a dating site, and then telling you about all the leisure activities she has going on.

[drg2365]

awww don't get discouraged About you change site? What have you been using?

 

I go on OKcupid and I get 2 messages a day, I go on POF and I get 40 messages a day lol. Try something new!

 

It's incredibly discouraging though. Re-read that post, (sorry for the typos it was on my phone) but I tried to make sane, legitimate comments. I was using match, before I entered that realm I did a little homework and viewed the reviews accordingly. Match actually got pretty good reviews. Then I got my awful result. I'm not sure if I even want or should try something new as far as OLD goes,

[Hello_is_it_me]

If you say you're attractive and have a decent career and your own place etc.. then I'm thinking you're either coming off boring or there's something wrong with the way you're communicating to these girls.

[drg2365]

If you say you're attractive and have a decent career and your own place etc.. then I'm thinking you're either coming off boring or there's something wrong with the way you're communicating to these girls.

 

I can only agree, but the question is why? or how? I'm not really good at the hyper-sexual aggressive 'go for the kill' moves. And usually end up rejected for being nice as in this scenario. When you work 40-50 hours a week and try your best to go out/do stuff, being called boring is so hurtful, and you see girls dating guys who don't even have a job :/ (not the norm, but I hope you see what I'm saying) I guess I could be communicating wrong but from posts earlier I have just been confused as to what to actually do

[Hello_is_it_me]

I can only agree, but the question is why? or how? I'm not really good at the hyper-sexual aggressive 'go for the kill' moves. And usually end up rejected for being nice as in this scenario. When you work 40-50 hours a week and try your best to go out/do stuff, being called boring is so hurtful, and you see girls dating guys who don't even have a job :/ (not the norm, but I hope you see what I'm saying) I guess I could be communicating wrong but from posts earlier I have just been confused as to what to actually do

 

Can't really say bz I haven't read your email correspondence but AGAIN - why do you think "not-being-nice" equals being sexual??? The fact that you keep making that connection tells me there's some disconnect here. Let's take baby steps. Can you understand why almost everyone in this thread has found a problem with the last line of your text (the ice cream line)?

[GemmaUK]

OP, I don't think your online mail rate was that bad for OLD to be honest.

 

You do need a thick skin for OLD though.

 

How do you fare with being online - as in on the OLD site - and having a chat that goes back and forth in real time?

I've had more success and been more interested when a guy is around for an hour or so to actually have a back and forth conversation.

 

I wouldn't take it to sexual stuff. I stop replying the moment anyone takes a conversation that direction.

[drg2365]

Can't really say bz I haven't read your email correspondence but AGAIN - why do you think "not-being-nice" equals being sexual??? The fact that you keep making that connection tells me there's some disconnect here. Let's take baby steps. Can you understand why almost everyone in this thread has found a problem with the last line of your text (the ice cream line)?

 

Yeah I know, oops on the line. As one poster earlier mentioned you could have literally said anything and if she liked you would have not cared. I'll say it again, I attempted to be a little corny, she seemed to like those lines, just wanted to show I gave two craps about her. That's sort of mean when that becomes seemingly the total breaker, like a 'it's the thought that counts'. Like your grandma giving you tube socks at X-mas and a note saying she loves you. Like wtf grandma this the is worst gift ever, but you don't say that. But she was thinking of you, so you just write her a thank you note back. Not a total 1:1 here, just the same idea. Like my friend's fiance said, 'yeah that was corny, but I thought that was really sweet, you kept it light hearted and easy, no sexual stuff, a girl would kill for a guy to treat her to some mint chocolate chip after her midterms, you two had already kissed so if she thought that was weird, she needs to re-think what she wants. That's awful if she just went out on dates with you just for kicks, but showed real interest I hope this work itself out' (it hasn't) Meanwhile you have men & women (her friends included well as my friends who are on the 'evil' side) that have sex after 1 or 2 dates.

 

On the boring note, I'm sort of new here in the city. I got a job far away from home. But let's just consider this: Me: decently attractive, really good job, have my own place and car, do activities when I have the time. Her:decently attractive, 24, lived with her parents, in grad school (legit but her grad date was may 2016), no job, played kickball as her main claim to fame. Who is exactly boring in this scenario? Again it might not have been a match made in heaven, that's fair (even though sharing a kiss on her parent's porch really made me think that we were doing good), but she should be put on notice the next time she thinks no guys in the world care about her. But I guess it is a woman's game so even though you are admittedly totally broke for the next few years, you're going to find your match because well, you can.

 

And if those stats for OLD are 'about the norm' damn, that is horrific and is something I will never try again.

 

Can you guys feel where I'm coming from on some of these points? I do really appreciate the input, its a learning process. Its just super hard out there

Edited March 26, 2014 by drg2365

[GemmaUK]

How old are you?

 

I'm just wondering whether you should be looking for ladies who are in a similar situation to yourself and working.

 

Another thought is that since you have moved it would be good to get into some kind of regular activity to get you making friends in the area you live.

 

I think above all else concentrate on that initially.

Once you have a few guys you can hang out with then I think the rest will fall into place.

 

You could also find yourself a few favourite haunts, coffee shops, book shops, cafes and wherever you go always keep your eyes open.

You never know who you might meet someone or where.

 

Whatever you do though - whether you decide to make some new friends or find a few places you can go to regularly make sure you enjoy yourself.

Someone looking happy, relaxed and having fun is more approachable.

Smiling is also a good thing to do, you can practice a quick smile on anyone.

[drg2365]

How old are you?

 

I'm just wondering whether you should be looking for ladies who are in a similar situation to yourself and working.

 

Another thought is that since you have moved it would be good to get into some kind of regular activity to get you making friends in the area you live.

 

I think above all else concentrate on that initially.

Once you have a few guys you can hang out with then I think the rest will fall into place.

 

You could also find yourself a few favourite haunts, coffee shops, book shops, cafes and wherever you go always keep your eyes open.

You never know who you might meet someone or where.

 

Whatever you do though - whether you decide to make some new friends or find a few places you can go to regularly make sure you enjoy yourself.

Someone looking happy, relaxed and having fun is more approachable.

Smiling is also a good thing to do, you can practice a quick smile on anyone.

 

I'm about to turn 23. That is probably a huge reason for my current situation. I'm so much younger than everyone and no one even takes me seriously. I studied my ass off in college for a math degree (you can imagine my dating situation there, let's say I laughed rather than cried), it took me 3 weeks to find a job, got scooped up by a fortune 100, than nearly a year of this. In this economy that is a huge achievement and I'm proud of myself, but I didn't sign up for heart-wrenching loneliness. My 'hip' area of the city is mostly 26-32 year olds who are mostly married.

 

I didn't know it was the case, but girls older than you, its still like a taboo to date younger. You live with your parents, barely have a job (or no job), not a whole lot going for you? But you're 25/26, HA. A few months ago I got super rejected by a girl at a bar, who worked at target, 25, lived with parents, yada yada; but the interesting this was her mindset flipped once I said I was 23 and just got a job for the company. Its like sorry I'm not a 30 year old doctor, but not even a chance?

 

So yeah, its basically relegated to the wait 4-8 years game when women take you more seriously. Most girls my age don't do squat and live with their parents, making them really hard to meet. It totally sucks.

Edited March 26, 2014 by drg2365

[Hello_is_it_me]

Yeah I know, oops on the line. As one poster earlier mentioned you could have literally said anything and if she liked you would have not cared. I'll say it again, I attempted to be a little corny, she seemed to like those lines, just wanted to show I gave two craps about her. That's sort of mean when that becomes seemingly the total breaker, like a 'it's the thought that counts'. Like your grandma giving you tube socks at X-mas and a note saying she loves you. Like wtf grandma this the is worst gift ever, but you don't say that. But she was thinking of you, so you just write her a thank you note back. Not a total 1:1 here, just the same idea. Like my friend's fiance said, 'yeah that was corny, but I thought that was really sweet, you kept it light hearted and easy, no sexual stuff, a girl would kill for a guy to treat her to some mint chocolate chip after her midterms, you two had already kissed so if she thought that was weird, she needs to re-think what she wants. That's awful if she just went out on dates with you just for kicks, but showed real interest I hope this work itself out' (it hasn't) Meanwhile you have men & women (her friends included well as my friends who are on the 'evil' side) that have sex after 1 or 2 dates.

 

On the boring note, I'm sort of new here in the city. I got a job far away from home. But let's just consider this: Me: decently attractive, really good job, have my own place and car, do activities when I have the time. Her:decently attractive, 24, lived with her parents, in grad school (legit but her grad date was may 2016), no job, played kickball as her main claim to fame. Who is exactly boring in this scenario? Again it might not have been a match made in heaven, that's fair (even though sharing a kiss on her parent's porch really made me think that we were doing good), but she should be put on notice the next time she thinks no guys in the world care about her. But I guess it is a woman's game so even though you are admittedly totally broke for the next few years, you're going to find your match because well, you can.

 

And if those stats for OLD are 'about the norm' damn, that is horrific and is something I will never try again.

 

Can you guys feel where I'm coming from on some of these points? I do really appreciate the input, its a learning process. Its just super hard out there

 

In regards to the awkward texting, I just don't think you're "getting it." And none of the things you listed influence whether a person is boring or not.

[sid3]

I'm thinking it wasn't the corniness of your text, it's the fact you showed to much interest, too soon. Anticipation is more often than not a main ingredient in building attraction.

[GemmaUK]

Hmmm...I wanna reply to all three posts above...brb....

 

or

 

'bear with be caller' as we say in the UK.....

[Gaeta]

I'm about to turn 23. That is probably a huge reason for my current situation. I'm so much younger than everyone and no one even takes me seriously. I studied my ass off in college for a math degree (you can imagine my dating situation there, let's say I laughed rather than cried), it took me 3 weeks to find a job, got scooped up by a fortune 100, than nearly a year of this. In this economy that is a huge achievement and I'm proud of myself,

That is very impressive, good for you!!

 

Is it possible you've been dating down? What were you doing out with a 25 y/o working at Target? I cannot imagine that there aren't young women out there looking for a young successful man that's got his act together like you!

 

When you're online are you open minded or you go for the same type of women?

[GemmaUK]

I'm thinking it wasn't the corniness of your text, it's the fact you showed to much interest, too soon. Anticipation is more often than not a main ingredient in building attraction.

 

I agree that anticipation is a huge ingredient - if the woman has half a brain cell that is and I don't get a feeling that drg goes for those lacking in half a brain cell.

Actually, what he said didn't appear to come over as too keen either - but this you never know unless you are in it yourself.

So, let's say drg did come over as a bit too keen...

He has a great job at a young age, his own place, car..all that and he has family and friends back where he grew up but he is ambitious to he took a risk and moved for a great job that will set him up well for his future.

Currently he is lacking in social life. He's lonely. That is going to make anyone keen on someone they like.

Sometimes the only interaction I get all day is with a woman at the checkout. Unless you have been there though and are living it it can be tough to really understand.

 

drg - that is why you need to up your social life - a sports team or an activity where you engage with people. We all need people. (I am telling myself this bit at the same time as you..I work really hard and long hours and my social group has had a change in dynamics - but I am doing various things about that and it's harder for me at 45 so if I can you can!

 

In regards to the awkward texting, I just don't think you're "getting it." And none of the things you listed influence whether a person is boring or not.

 

HIIM, your post was really unclear and you did say 'baby steps' so I was thinking you would explain.

A few have thought the ice cream text was corny, drg said it himself. Corny is sweet and a refreshing change.

I am torn from your post between thinking you thought he should suggest dinner or whether you thought his text sounded creepy?

The baby steps comment made me think you thought creepy.

If this is what you meant then and sorry for saying but I don't think you understand what creepy means to a woman.

Creepy is an instinct. You feel it right off the bat. You do not want to be anywhere near that person.

The lady he met would not have gone on three dates had she thought him creepy.

As well as that, it's a chilled out pleasant idea. Plus it's actually the kind of idea that would weed out gold diggers. I would love to get the offer of an ice cream.

 

I'm about to turn 23. That is probably a huge reason for my current situation. I'm so much younger than everyone and no one even takes me seriously. I studied my ass off in college for a math degree (you can imagine my dating situation there, let's say I laughed rather than cried), it took me 3 weeks to find a job, got scooped up by a fortune 100, than nearly a year of this. In this economy that is a huge achievement and I'm proud of myself, but I didn't sign up for heart-wrenching loneliness. My 'hip' area of the city is mostly 26-32 year olds who are mostly married.

 

I didn't know it was the case, but girls older than you, its still like a taboo to date younger. You live with your parents, barely have a job (or no job), not a whole lot going for you? But you're 25/26, HA. A few months ago I got super rejected by a girl at a bar, who worked at target, 25, lived with parents, yada yada; but the interesting this was her mindset flipped once I said I was 23 and just got a job for the company. Its like sorry I'm not a 30 year old doctor, but not even a chance?

 

So yeah, its basically relegated to the wait 4-8 years game when women take you more seriously. Most girls my age don't do squat and live with their parents, making them really hard to meet. It totally sucks.

 

If you take you seriously others will follow.

A personal question..no need to respond but you might want to think about it. Do you look your age or younger/older? A bit of Brad Pitt stubble can help if you are young faced. And your jawline is going to fill out anyway (and is doing now..as we speak )

 

Hip areas tend to be filled with the people who have no imagination.

Off the beaten track is the best place to talk to interesting people.

I think you are a little shy..can understand that..you're on your own in your city. Go explore. Seriously.

Do you like music?

Look up small venues where live music is happening.

I have met loads of people and had some great nights put doing that.

 

You have told me one story about a woman who baulked at your age.

One story.

It doesn't mean that they are all going to do the same.

Don't ever ever project what happened once onto any other person.

If the exact same thing happens three times over then step back and look at the common denominator. (you).

 

You need a bit of a kick up the ass and get yourself out. Get meeting people. Go take a look on youtube at body language and meeting folk.

I suspect you are pretty much OK with it..you got that job so you can do it.

Things will not fall in your lap unless you seek them out though.

Faking confidence when you are on your own somewhere..in a short apce of time makes you believe it.

Smile at people.

 

Your work life is great. You need people and fun. If you find fun you find people.

 

There's a saying I love.

Change your behaviour and you can change your attitude.

It's so true. Most think it's the other way around but it really isn't.

drg...try it.

 

You have come across as a good young man on here.

You are not moaning but you are being open and honest.

I would not have spent the time here had I not had an instinct about you.

Don't prove me wrong.

[Hello_is_it_me]

HIIM, your post was really unclear and you did say 'baby steps' so I was thinking you would explain.

A few have thought the ice cream text was corny, drg said it himself. Corny is sweet and a refreshing change.

I am torn from your post between thinking you thought he should suggest dinner or whether you thought his text sounded creepy?

The baby steps comment made me think you thought creepy.

If this is what you meant then and sorry for saying but I don't think you understand what creepy means to a woman.

Creepy is an instinct. You feel it right off the bat. You do not want to be anywhere near that person.

The lady he met would not have gone on three dates had she thought him creepy.

As well as that, it's a chilled out pleasant idea. Plus it's actually the kind of idea that would weed out gold diggers. I would love to get the offer of an ice cream.

 

Ooooh, no, I didn't mean "baby steps" in the actual texts he sends. I meant "baby steps" as in the OP needs to initiate some basic introspection of himself - a.k.a. OP needs to firstly find a very basic, bare-bones understanding of why a girl might be turned off by the texts he sent. Because by his replies, I truly don't think he gets it. He keeps defending his texts as a type of corny banter that girls should appreciate. And I'm not saying you can't ask people out for ice cream. But the manner he did was not the most... effective.

[Hello_is_it_me]

Me: Hey there, how did you gals fare camping last night. (OP initiates)

Her: It was really fun at night but in the morning it got muggy and rained. ughh

Me: Haha well if it makes you feel any better I left my sunroof open last night. Talk about a fun morning. Where did you guys go? (doing ok... keeping the convo going...)

Her: (local recreation park)

Me: Oh I've been there its really pretty, that's cool. Hey if you are free this Thurs/Fri we should meet up again. The weather is supposed to change for the better those days. (doing ok... feeling her out for a potential meet..)

Her: I'll keep you posted! I do have two tests this week and it really sucks... (kind of a blowoff by her)

Me: Aww yeah I know the feeling more than anyone of high-pressure tests. But hang in there you'll do great, you really are a good student (she has straight A's in grad school) (mistake text. Reinforcing your acceptance of her excuse for not seeing you with the first sentence... then the whole "hang in there you'll do great" is too nice guy, friendzone, and bland/cliche. Now yes, some girls might appreciate the courtesy but I don't think sending a text like this so early in a relationship is effective)

Her: Thanks! I'm not too sure about that because I went camping instead of studying but I think I'll manage! Hopefully its nice on Wednesday so I can take out my stress with kickball! (Showing her priorities. Knows about upcoming tests so goes camping and plays kickball - but not sure about hanging out with you. Also what day are the tests? You asked her out on a Friday. That leaves a weekend to study if the potential test is the following week... )

Me: Kick them out of the park! haha I bet you'll do fine. I know your kind of time crunched but I'd love to be the guy who takes you out for ice cream and gives you a little kiss for a job well done (Fail text. She has already shown disinterest so now is not the time to show her further interest. If anything, you should have just cut the convo short and let her initiate the next contact. "Kick them out of the park" - kinda dorky. And the death knell - the last line. You're just barely dating this girl and this line seems a bit nerdy, pedestalizes her, and is indirectly clingy. You don't have to be overtly sexual. But I said it earlier in the thread that that last line sounds like something a middle school boy would send to his crush. But anyways, aside from me nitpicking is that when a girl starts to show disinterest, DO NOT come on to her stronger. If I had gotten that kickball text I would have replied with "Ok busygirl, maybe another time then )" and gone NC with her for a spell.)