Why is it never easy?

[mrnova66]

Gonna have to agree here. I'm a woman too. By the time I got 3/4 of the way down I was kind of inwardly groaning and thinking that you needed to be more of a MAN.

 

I mean yeah, it's cute all the foo foo frilly things you have going on. Massage, hotel room, jewelry, poetry, this and that... but what's really going to get a woman turned on is being a MAN.

 

Rugged. Rough. Don't ASK me if you can kiss me, just grab me and go for it. Also, the whole wining and dining right off the bat is a little much.

 

I wouldn't go so far as to say I "hate" a man like you, but you're just not the kind of guy I would be attracted to. Being TOO nice is a bit of a turn off.

Well if he is nice and respectful. Then what is the problem. My advise to him do not change just because society is screw up. If someone does something nice for me and not putting a act on. Then why would I think it is a bad thing for someone that is thinking about me. You see I am not like the oth 99.999999% of society that thinks I have to follow everybody else. Like being TOO NICE!!!Which BTW there is no such of thing. Why would I put value on the way I want to be treated. Every woman that I have dated and come up with that phrase end up with a guy that is NOT TOO NICE!!Usually scum bags or men that do not give a crap about them. When I hear a woman that states that she does not want a TOO NICE of a guy. Then I am running. She has issues. She is looking for Mr. Drama king or Mr. DO NOT GIVE A CRAP!!! You better hurry though. Mr. Do NOT GIVE A CRAP usually do not stay single long. Most are married

[yxalitis]

This can be summed up with two words..

 

Friend Zone.

 

You screwed up - who cares, another will be along in 10 minutes.

 

When dating never put all your eggs in one basket or crap like this happens. Currently I have so many broads on the go I can't even remember their names, do I care if one drops off? He11 no. I just add 3 more.

 

Good on you for treating women like conquests...My Father and Brother did that, they ended up alone and bitter.

 

And as for the "Friendzone" replies, no, sorry, we were definitely dating romantically.

Whenever we kissed it was deep and passionate.

If we kissed alone in private, it usually got very heated, I don't think friends allow a man to suck their nipples.

She is just confused as to what she wants, and overthinks things.

She may work out she wants me, and will reach out to me in a few weeks, she may not, what this forum has helped me do is not pin my hopes to that.

If she calls, great, I'll be pleaseed.

If she doesn't oh well, it wasn't 'there' for her.

[yxalitis]

Good on you for treating women like conquests...My Father and Brother did that, they ended up alone and bitter.

 

And as for the "Friendzone" replies, no, sorry, we were definitely dating romantically.

Whenever we kissed it was deep and passionate.

If we kissed alone in private, it usually got very heated, I don't think friends allow a man to suck their nipples.

She is just confused as to what she wants, and overthinks things.

She may work out she wants me, and will reach out to me in a few weeks, she may not, what this forum has helped me do is not pin my hopes to that.

If she calls, great, I'll be pleased.

If she doesn't oh well, it wasn't 'there' for her.

I'll update this aeons old thread...

The girl was seeing another guy, and chose him over me, I guess he was more "manly", had a 6 pack, etc.

After several months of NC, I just texted her out of the blue. I asked how she was, how her new boyfriend was...etc.

She replied that the bf was: "A huge mistake"

Seems he was always jealous, over controlling and suspicious whenever she went out. ONE day he went through her entire phone, and questioned her about every man in her contacts list.

She told him it was over, and to please leave.

He assaulted her, knocked her down, pulled her hair. Police got involved, charges laid, restraining order...etc.

Funny thing, after about 6 months I texted her just two weeks after the assault...psychic connection or what?

 

We are still friends, she is pregnant to a younger guy she used to get pregnant (with his permission), who then decided he would hang around after the birth and be the dad...

 

C'est la vie

[lino]

I thought this discussion was current, didn't read the dates!

 

Sorry things went this way for you mate.

 

Had a similar thing happen to me 11 odd years ago and again about 9 years ago when I was in my 20s.

 

Two women I was seeing (I thought we were boyfriend and girlfriend, they thought otherwise) left me for guys who were physically violent to them. One of them tried to communicate with me afterwards but I wasn't interested.

 

Funnily enough I was the guy with the 6 pack in both cases but violent guys are like sugar for ants.

I'm not violent and I was a nice guy back then doing similar romantic and sweet things like you did for this woman.

 

You learn the hard way that those things simply aren't appreciated even if you've seen it played out before. A guy just has to go through with it himself.

 

You seem a good bloke and pretty smart, hope it pans out with a decent girl

[elaine567]

So which one of your many Asian women was this?

Last I heard, only 6 days ago, your FB was now your gf.

What happened to her?

[Snakechammah]

I'll update this aeons old thread...

The girl was seeing another guy, and chose him over me, I guess he was more "manly", had a 6 pack, etc.

After several months of NC, I just texted her out of the blue. I asked how she was, how her new boyfriend was...etc.

She replied that the bf was: "A huge mistake"

Seems he was always jealous, over controlling and suspicious whenever she went out. ONE day he went through her entire phone, and questioned her about every man in her contacts list.

She told him it was over, and to please leave.

He assaulted her, knocked her down, pulled her hair. Police got involved, charges laid, restraining order...etc.

Funny thing, after about 6 months I texted her just two weeks after the assault...psychic connection or what?

 

We are still friends, she is pregnant to a younger guy she used to get pregnant (with his permission), who then decided he would hang around after the birth and be the dad...

 

C'est la vie

 

You dodged a bullet, dude. She's a total train wreck!

 

But it proves the other guys right. That girls who are train wrecks love all the Chris Browns in the world.... while they friendzone the goody guy.

 

And that she WAS seeing someone else.

 

Damn these people are psychics!

[yxalitis]

So which one of your many Asian women was this?

Last I heard, only 6 days ago, your FB was now your gf.

What happened to her?

 

Hi Elaine...check the date of the first post!

 

And my relationship with Cat is...complicated...

[yxalitis]

You dodged a bullet, dude. She's a total train wreck!

 

But it proves the other guys right. That girls who are train wrecks love all the Chris Browns in the world.... while they friendzone the goody guy.

 

And that she WAS seeing someone else.

 

Damn these people are psychics!

Totally disagree with your statement, what happened to her was horrible, and not her fault. Why does being assaulted make her a train wreck?

[Snakechammah]

Totally disagree with your statement, what happened to her was horrible, and not her fault. Why does being assaulted make her a train wreck?

 

That's only my opinion, of course you won't think so since you hold her in high regard (love is blind so they say).

 

She left you confused while she was with the other guy. You were nice and he was not. And yet she chose him over you. Either she likes drama or is a bit insecure, it's anyone's guess. Or maybe she really wasn't attracted to you, who knows?

 

Either way, a matured, emotionally-stable, intelligent woman would choose her mate very carefully, and any sign of abuse or disrespect, would bolt in a nutshell.

 

And won't get knocked up without careful planning. Her pregnancy clearly wasn't 'an accident'. You said she wanted to have that younger dude's baby - for whatever reason.

 

That is why I view her as a train wreck. They string along the good guys while banging the bad ones - because they are attracted to drama and danger.

 

So in a way, you were lucky you got away. Why be with someone who didn't want you, and didn't have the guts to tell you they wanted someone else?

[yxalitis]

That's only my opinion, of course you won't think so since you hold her in high regard (love is blind so they say).

 

She left you confused while she was with the other guy. You were nice and he was not. And yet she chose him over you. Either she likes drama or is a bit insecure, it's anyone's guess. Or maybe she really wasn't attracted to you, who knows?

 

Either way, a matured, emotionally-stable, intelligent woman would choose her mate very carefully, and any sign of abuse or disrespect, would bolt in a nutshell.

 

And won't get knocked up without careful planning. Her pregnancy clearly wasn't 'an accident'. You said she wanted to have that younger dude's baby - for whatever reason.

 

That is why I view her as a train wreck. They string along the good guys while banging the bad ones - because they are attracted to drama and danger.

 

So in a way, you were lucky you got away. Why be with someone who didn't want you, and didn't have the guts to tell you they wanted someone else?

 

Ohh, I see what you mean.

Yeah, I was brief on the details...

 

For a start I'm not in love with her, never was, we only dated a while, got frisky on the couch once, and then she told me she "wasn't ready"

 

Secondly, This other guy was as nice as pie to begin with, no problems at all, she said he only started to show some troubling signs a few months into the relationship.

But his violence was only triggered when she broke up with him, there was NO indication that he was like this at all, he was a 9-5 office worker, looked as ordinary and plain as you can imagine,

She really started to doubt herself after that, "Why couldn't I see this in him?"

So, no, honestly she's not a train wreck who picks the bad guys...she jsut made a poor decision with this guy.

[elaine567]

She really started to doubt herself after that, "Why couldn't I see this in him?"

So, no, honestly she's not a train wreck who picks the bad guys...she jsut made a poor decision with this guy.

 

It is fine for some to make judgements but up against a master manipulator or psycho, a normal person may not have the tools to spot them until it is too late.

They tend not to have "psycho" tattooed on their forehead, and they are often very good at being the person you want them to be too.

[SycamoreCircle]

I posted a response and then had the sense to read your update. Never mind...

Edited July 28, 2015 by SycamoreCircle