Author BlessYourCottonSocks Posted February 24, 2014 Author Posted February 24, 2014 Let me add...I would kind of be turned off by beauty school. If only because the kind of girls Ive met who have had that schooling tended to be materialistic, not that bright, and didnt have much for career aspirations. This is not every girl of course. I definitely love the girls who aspire to run their own business. And I know a girl who has both an bueaty school and business degree. My thing is that with girls who go to certain schooling...I find I cant talk to them meaningfully about certain things Im passionate about...like social issues, politics, business, law, maybe soccer lol. EDIT: Military experience is great though. See youre much different from the typical fresh out of high school bubbly girl that wants to do hair and make people pretty. That military experience is great for conversation and world view. So I wouldnt worry about it if this dude isnt into you. And who the hell is he? Well apparently hes a well to do guy with enough options to be selective. Dont hate on it, just be selective as well. Oh please don't call it beauty school. GAG. It's esthetician school. Skin care. And I'm the least materialistic girl ever and I don't do foo foo skin care. My passion is to work in a dermatology office doing corrective skin care. Botox, laser treatments, skin problems, chemical peels, all the ugly painful stuff. The stuff people are most insecure about. I want to help them feel more confident :-)
pickflicker Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 Sigh. Totally off topic, but I really wish women (and men) would stop perpetuating the stereotype that you can be a massive dlck as long as you're attractive. Unless you were joking, in which case yay. As for your actual problem, kudos for being independent! That's pretty awesome, though a little out of the norm for people who claim they have "no college experience". Hence some of his reservations I'll bet, though the way he phrased it wasn't terribly nice of him. He seems like he might be one of those smug college grads, in which case you may have done well to dodge him; smugness often carries over to other personality aspects, none of which I personally have any patience for. No way of knowing for sure I guess. Agreed. Good looks are never an excuse for f*ckwit behaviour. 1
GorillaTheater Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 This guy's an attorney? Kick his azz to the kerb. Seriously, it doesn't matter that much. Intelligence doesn't correlate to college degrees often enough to significantly matter. 3
Author BlessYourCottonSocks Posted February 24, 2014 Author Posted February 24, 2014 Sigh. Totally off topic, but I really wish women (and men) would stop perpetuating the stereotype that you can be a massive dlck as long as you're attractive. Unless you were joking, in which case yay. As for your actual problem, kudos for being independent! That's pretty awesome, though a little out of the norm for people who claim they have "no college experience". Hence some of his reservations I'll bet, though the way he phrased it wasn't terribly nice of him. He seems like he might be one of those smug college grads, in which case you may have done well to dodge him; smugness often carries over to other personality aspects, none of which I personally have any patience for. No way of knowing for sure I guess. Oh please, I'm totally being sarcastic about the Brad Pitt thing. Humor anyone? So independence equals college experience? Where are your statistics? What I'm gathering from this whole college discourse is that by going to college you are more independent and intelligent, is this true? How stupid. UGH. 1
kaylan Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Oh please, I'm totally being sarcastic about the Brad Pitt thing. Humor anyone? So independence equals college experience? Where are your statistics? What I'm gathering from this whole college discourse is that by going to college you are more independent and intelligent, is this true? How stupid. UGH. Generally speaking, the more money you have, the more independent you can be. And numerous statistics outlining the direct correlation between education and social class and income exist. A quick google search will provide a mountain of information.
StanMusial Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 My gf went to beauty school and runs her own business. I know college grads that can't run a hot bath. I always saw myself with someone with a college degree but honestly when I got serious about finding someone I realized that someone with a similar family background and upbringing and values was 1,000 times more important to me. I have multiple college degrees and I'm really smart but honestly I would be just as happy if not happier plowing a field all day or bush-hogging on my farm. 5
GravityMan Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I think being "relate-able" is important to some people when seeking a partner. It's one reason why many people ultimately couple up with people of a similar educational, socioeconomic and/or cultural background. There's just a better chance for the two people to "get" each other, and they might feel safer - less risk of doing or saying something unintentionally offensive. Their respective families might feel more comfortable with the relationship (assuming the couple even cares about what they think). That said, I also think people who take an interest in others who had very different life experiences and just more open-minded in general are more likely to be better and more fun to date, and they are more likely to be secure about themselves. While being able to find lots of common ground and relate to each other is nice, I think having compatible values, morals, personality and sexual attitude is more important. For example if the two of you aren't on the same page when it comes to finances for example - there's a very good chance of that leading to eventual problems. Lastly, one's intelligence has nothing to do with his or her education level nor how much knowledge he has about any particular subject. A PhD can be very well versed in his field but still have average intelligence. It is not hard to tell whether someone is smart and it has a lot to do with how "sharp" he is, his ability to quickly grasp concepts and solve problems, his ability to think on his feet and outside the box, street smarts, his ability to ask good questions, whether he's quick-witted and so on. A very bright person with good people skills and decent drive is probably going to do very well in life. He/she may or may not have a college degree. 1
Tayken Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) THANK YOU!! I wholeheartedly agree. I also don't care about how much money someone makes, as long as they have a job and aren't lazy. I think getting along with someone and personality is so much more important than their profession and training. This guy was a loser. And it completely turned me off. Last thing he said to me (because I think he got the hint I was pretty pissed) was, "a good ass wins more points, anyway :)" PSH, as if. Ok...I am going to paint a different picture for you, one that you might not be aware of depending on how old you are and your experience. Men that have been married, and perhaps some women will get where I am coming from. I'll tackle the BOLD one at a time 1. Of course you agree with what that person said, cos it fits your agenda 2. That might be true, but if am making 3-5 times more than you are, how is that fair on me when it comes to paying bills? Did you also know that if we were to buy a house and then we split...you are entitled to 50%? 3. I wouldn't call him that...he did bother to educate himself and get himself to where he is today...you on the other hand decided that school is not your thing. Question to you....would you date and end up with a garbage collector? Now for convenience sake you claim that you will, but I highly doubt that especially when it comes to discussing with your friends what your bf does. Personally, based on my experience and what I know about family law, there is no way in hell that I'll end up with someone that earns way less than me.....you know why? The law here states..."a disparity in income, is an automatic entitlement to spousal support". Yes, how would you like that is you were the payor? Why should I carry someone that couldn't care less about making something of their life, and decided that they are just going to do some odd job to keep them busy? Now in a situation where two people earn the same or close, obviously this won't be an issue. AGAIN: Contrary to popular belief, "LOVE IS NOT ALL YOU NEED" NOTE: I concur with the education is not the be all and end all.....it does however open doors and provide opportunities to elevate yourself in life. We can't go round using the silly excuse ..."there are graduates with no jobs, so what is the point of studying" My ex only had high school diploma, whilst I have degrees coming out my a$$. That doesn't take into account all the courses I had to take for my job and position also..... So independence equals college experience? Where are your statistics? NO...Independence equals you paying your own way, and someone not having to carry you. When we talk of independent women, we refer to successful educated, business savvy smart type women that don't sit on their a$$ and wait for a man to do everything for them....these are the kind of women that were brought up to strive for success, as opposed to being raised by some parent that spoilt their kids by giving them stuff I think you are still young and don't have much life experiences yet by the sound of things....once you've been in a LTR and married...you will remember this conversation...hopefully? OH...The Brad Pitt comment, I don't personally think it was sarcasm. See my question above to you...would you date a guy who is a garbage collector earning minimum wage or the same as you? A lot of young women these days are focused on this whole fashion / aesthetics thing due to the fact that they are obsessed with their looks. I know because my ex's daughter is like that, and that is the only subject to date in high school that she has got close to 90% in.... I personally don't have time for people wrapped up in their looks...BIG TURN OFF Edited February 25, 2014 by Tayken 2
soccerrprp Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Someone like myself? What's the mean? Nowhere in my post did I suggest that you were not intelligent enough for him. He assumed such based only on the fact that you do not have a degree. I was merely suggesting that your personalities would not have been compatible. That's it.
Grumpybutfun Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Socks, I would have blasted him for wasting my time. You clearly stated you didn't have a college background so he wasted your time. There is no excuse for rudeness either when someone is courteous enough to meet you for a date. He is a fool. Pretentiousness is a bore. You deserve better, Grumps 2
Tayken Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I'm ambitious in bed, does that count? No matter his level of intelligence, he sounds ignorant to me. See this is just it.....I personally think you are walking around thinking this is all a woman needs...you are and a lot more with the same mentality. I couldn't care less if you could perform the Kamasutra with your eyes closed. Sex is not everything, and there are many out there just like you who are just as "ambitious in bed", but with a lot more to offer. He is ignorant of what....the fact that he question your education / profession? Work ethics is a valuable and important thing when it comes to relationships...if both parties don't have it, then the strain is going to show. 1
newmoon Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) it's studies that can back this and not just my opinion, but the degree matters less for the man than it does for the women. if a man is more 'degreed' than his female companion it's ok - he has even one more reason to feel manly, or so say statistics. you'll find a lot of lesser-educated women with very high-earning degreed men. it comes down to respect, which is supposedly what men need far more than women. the women can respect the man and his degree, but she'd lose respect for him if he was significantly less intelligent than her. the smarter a woman is - the more degreed she is - the less likely she is to want to date and/or marry a man without a degree, or even get married at all (we're talking masters or professional level degrees and medical, not women with just a bachelor's). during college I had women's studies professors telling us that the more educated a woman is, the less attractive she becomes (in terms of dating) because a guy has to do a heck of a lot to impress, and to equal what she's going to be making, financially. it's not really 'cool' for a guy to be an intellectual inferior. to say I don't care about the degree would be lying - I look for minimum of bachelors, and really prefer a masters of doctorate - it means a lot not for the degree itself, but because the person has ambition, earning potential, intelligence, and determination to stick with something. it doesn't take much intelligence to get through a tech program or an associates degree and I'd never be able to respect a guy who only had that. there are very few steve jobs floating around. Edited February 25, 2014 by newmoon
MissBee Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) I was talking to a guy from OLD who is an attorney. I told him how I have no college degree. I went to a vocational school for an Esthetician license instead. College was never my thing and probably never will be. Anyways, he said that he prefers dating someone with a college degree, but it's not a deal breaker. And I asked him why he prefers that over someone without a degree and how it would affect their relationship. Both my parents didn't have a degree and made well over a million a year. There are people I know who have degrees, owe a ton of money and can't find a job. He told me it wasn't about success, but experience. He said I would never be able to relate to him and how much work he put into becoming an attorney. He then said education doesn't equal intelligence. So what's his point? What do you think? Does having a degree make you more valuable in the dating world? I can be just as successful as someone with a degree as they can be just as unsuccessful as someone without a degree. What's all this hype about going to college these days? All you do is owe money and end up not being able to find a job that you studied for. Most of the time. What do you all think? It's not about jobs or success [or even intelligence]as he stated but shared experiences. I'm not sure if this thread is about dating or your opinion of college degrees, but my only comment on the latter is that even if people with college degrees cannot find jobs, they MOST TIMES will be chosen for a job over those who don't have one, depending on the job, so why not make yourself more marketable. I'm in graduate school now and I will say that more than the "degree" I went to really good schools that had me networking and becoming friends with and mentored by people who have a lot of pull. Therefore, even if I couldn't get a job based on what I "studied" for, going to college automatically put me in a different social class and made my circle a lot wider and put me in contact with people who matter in the field I'm in and that alone was worth it for me (I also have no college debt because of scholarships etc). I also have been afforded the opportunity to do lots of things that I wouldn't have been able to do otherwise so for me it has expanded my horizons beyond measure and for that alone I'd recommend it. College exposed me to more traveling than I'd have done otherwise (and for free), friends from all over the world, learning new languages, meeting leaders of countries, leaders in particular industries etc that while possible without it, for me I can't see how I would have otherwise just working at Walmart or some other place. Will I ever be a millionaire? Don't know, maybe, but I've certainly had some "expensive experiences" and have a lot of social capital all sponsored by the fact that I went to college. But aside from that, I don't think college is for everyone or that everyone has to go, but as he said, it's about shared experiences and life paths and what people value in their relationships. A man who has gone to college, and for me one who has a graduate degree, will most likely share a common baseline with me when it comes to certain things versus a man who only has a high school diploma. I have dated a man with only a high school diploma before and he was no less smart but he certainly had a whole different set of experiences and couldn't relate/didn't know about certain things that I did or that my friends did because of this and it was pretty obvious. I have dated a lot and more or less find it to be consistently true that most of the men most compatible with me where we just click and they "get it", have had similar educational backgrounds and similar experiences, it's kind of like when I date men who are from my home country, we just automatically share certain cultural understandings, implicit language nuances and sometimes particular values that are specific to the fact that we're both from this particular place. In any case, having no degree doesn't make you less attractive in general in OLD, it simply depends on whose looking and what they value, as lots of men don't have college degrees either or even if they do don't care about that. Heck, it seems maybe 80% of the men who message me don't so I'm sure they can't be expecting that a woman should be college educated if they aren't. I doubt it's that majority of men on dating sites are college grads looking for other college grads...certainly not from what I see. But it also depends on the site. We're all entitled to our preferences, and he's right, this post proves it, another attorney or someone with a graduate or college degree would "get it" and not disparage college education and bring up how you won't have a job still and it's overrated blah blah....you're already on different pages based on the way you view his education. That's important to him and if it's not to you, then you're probably gonna disagree on a lot of other things. I just had to let a man go I went on one date with for this. He does have a college degree but is very insecure and essentially tried to act like me getting a PhD was pointless. I personally don't go around looking for men pursuing PhDs too, it's not important to me that a man does that; but, it is important that he values me and what I do and this dude didn't and I could tell I'd never be able to share about my experiences with school without him rolling his eyes or speaking badly about it....so why bother? It's all about how your experiences and values fit together. For some people particular things are important and for others they aren't...it's not a personal slight against you, just an incompatibility that is best exposed at the beginning so you don't waste your time. Edited February 25, 2014 by MissBee
TheyCallMeOx Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I think most people are just concerned about falling in love with someone who is eventually going to "bring them down." If someone has a degree, they'll use that as information to convince themselves that they're not going to fall in love with someone who is totally lost and is content with a mediocre job. If you have a degree, I think that would give them the impression that you actually give a crap about your future even if you don't know if it's really what you want to do. People without a degree, I think that they feel like there's usually a reason why. If I'm a dude that's 23 years old and I don't have a degree, it's assumed that I either: A) Do physical labor B) Sell crack C) Make minimum wage D) Rely on my middle class family income E) Both B and D However if I've got a master's degree, then it's assumed that: A) He knows what he wants. That's super hott. B) He doesn't know what he wants, but he's doing his best. Generally, people like people with degrees just for re-assurance even if it's not true. There are people with degrees who are just as clueless about life. You may have a Bachelor's degree in something, but it's effectively useless when that person has no motivation and would rather sit and play video games all day. This is part of the reason why my ex-girlfriend broke up with me. She thought I was going to bring her down because her and I were on different levels of motivation. I was like "I'll eventually get there" and she was like "I'm gonna get there in 2 years...I gotta do this, I gotta do that." I have an associate's degree, but I still gotta get other stuff for my career. However, I just didn't really care that much. I wasn't really making the progress she wanted me to, and therefore thought that I was not going to get my act together and basically latch onto her income like a leech.
hotpotato Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Well, now I can see how some people will view me. I don't have a college degree. If I go back to college, it would probably be for a 2 year degree, maybe for nursing. I just don't need to go to school to learn. As for people without degrees not being able to stick with anything I call hogwash. I've stuck with a fitness regimen while most people cannot. I've stuck with educating myself on various topics since I was a child. I simply do not need school to learn. I'm with Good Will Hunting. Why should I pay thousands of dollars for something I can get for free or low cost from the library/google/books/people outside schools willing to teach? There are many people with degrees who can't find good jobs. A degree no longer guarantees a good job (did it ever?). I'm naturally inquisitive, curious, and thirsty for knowledge, but people wont see that because I dont have a piece of paper. Ridiculous. 3
Tayken Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Well, now I can see how some people will view me. I don't have a college degree. If I go back to college, it would probably be for a 2 year degree, maybe for nursing. I just don't need to go to school to learn. As for people without degrees not being able to stick with anything I call hogwash. I've stuck with a fitness regimen while most people cannot. I've stuck with educating myself on various topics since I was a child. I simply do not need school to learn. I'm with Good Will Hunting. Why should I pay thousands of dollars for something I can get for free or low cost from the library/google/books/people outside schools willing to teach? There are many people with degrees who can't find good jobs. A degree no longer guarantees a good job (did it ever?). I'm naturally inquisitive, curious, and thirsty for knowledge, but people wont see that because I dont have a piece of paper. Ridiculous. Bold 1: If you educated yourself enough as you claim, then you will know that becoming a Registered Nurse (RN), is a not a 2yr task BOLD 2: Why did you take up a notch then by getting a 4yr proper degree (not associate)? BOLD 3: No you do not...a lot of people are home schooled and still manage to get their high school diploma / GED BOLD 4: Yes, using a movie plot to justify your stance. Nothing is "free" by the way....if you use Google, you are paying your internet provider to achieve this
Radu Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Not calling you sad. It is sad that someone's level of education is based on whether they are worthy of dating. I think you mean the other way around. I believe there is more to talk about then my frickin job. I'd rather not talk about it once I get home to be honest. I work to make a living, not to make a relationship. Well, first of all some ppl love their jobs. What you just said could be interpreted that you work because you have to, and not because you want to. So if i were in his shoes, and played the numbers game, i would pass because in a society like the US, i would desperately avoid having someone who would be comfortable as a SAHM and not want to work [as a guy it would make me uncomfortable, as a lawyer it would freak me out maybe ... it means alimony in case of D, and losing the kids]. And 2nd, a job is a big part of someone's life. It eats up to a 3rd of a day for many decades. Ppl do tend to talk about their jobs at home, even if it means listening to how yours went. A relationship consists of so much more. Maybe I'm not fit to date an attorney. I don't really think I'd get along with them anyhow considering the recent circumstances. Lovely. You made this thread blasting away at this guy for discounting you because of your 'limited' education, and his obvious discriminating nature, but you are perfectly fine discriminating yourself against lawyers. ---------- I'm a guy and i also don't have a college degree, i dropped out near the end [will fix that in 1 yr]. You haven't seen discrimination until you have tried dating as a guy without a college degree, in a country where getting one means only 500$/yr tuition [my last gf had 2]. 1
acrosstheuniverse Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Personally I would struggle to date somebody who wasn't educated to undergraduate level. All of my exes have either had university degrees (or been Doctors in their field) other than one, who dropped outta uni twice but began another university course during our relationship. I can't really explain why. The men I've tried dating who haven't been educated to that level, we haven't really clicked mentally. They've had good practical jobs, like plumbing or mechanics or electrician etc. but we just weren't on the same level. I'm not saying I'm better than them, or smarter (one guy had no degree but his own business making a tonne of cash, while I'm still studying and poor, so clearly he isn't dumb!) just different. If someone is smart but doesn't have a degree then that's absolutely fine. But on the whole, the men I'm attracted to are smart AND have a degree. It probably is caused partly by the fact that going to university is normal in my circle, we all pretty much go as standard so it's quite unusual to find somebody who chose another path. I'm studying my postgrad MA right now and there's something about the tenacity it takes to complete a degree course that appeals to me in a partner. It's bloody hard work to commit to something that is several years long and to stick it out throughout everything! People think being a student is easy but it's difficult at times. I just wrote and submitted my 17k word Masters thesis and it took a toll on me (I also work and volunteer many hours a week in addition to studies), when you always have the pressure of having to write snapping at your ankles it's hard to enjoy anything else in your life I find. I've worked many jobs, many hours, 70 hours a week at times. And yet I still believe being a degree-level student isn't a piece of cake. Many times I've wanted to quit because I'm so exhausted from working to pay my way through a full-time course and maintaining my voluntary work but I've stuck it out and I admire people who are single minded enough to finish something they've started, no matter how difficult. Edited February 25, 2014 by acrosstheuniverse
traucket Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 "Love" is an indefinable sensation that will come coupled with discomfort and sorrows that contains a indicating of the passionate drive that potential customers to your closing trend of feeling.
Tayken Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) I only date women who are college educated because I want an equal in earning potential and intellectual discussion/capacity. However, if you were straight in your profile that you do not have a college degree and he asked you out anyway, then that wasn't really important to him. He probably met you and you were ditsy or not attractive enough so it was the excuse he gave. Just another perspective. BOLD 1: Exactly...Like I said in my post, this is a no brainer for any man that has been the highest earner in the past now moving forward with life. When you know how the family court operates and the bias that goes on, it really does wake you up Scenarios....during equalization calculations - A woman with no skills will have minimum wage used as her income - A woman with a degree will have the entry level rate used as her income Why on earth should I have to carry a woman that has decided that staying in school and making something of her life is too "challenging" to her? Am not your dad BOLD 2: Wow....calling it as it is eh NOTE: Am sure the thought of dating an ATTORNEY appeals to the OP, and it would have been a good show off to her friends. You can see the conversation going like this... fRIENDS: So what does this guy do? OP: He is a lawyer friends: oooh...Very nice, we are jealous Edited February 25, 2014 by Tayken
hotpotato Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Bold 1: If you educated yourself enough as you claim, then you will know that becoming a Registered Nurse (RN), is a not a 2yr task BOLD 2: Why did you take up a notch then by getting a 4yr proper degree (not associate)? BOLD 3: No you do not...a lot of people are home schooled and still manage to get their high school diploma / GED BOLD 4: Yes, using a movie plot to justify your stance. Nothing is "free" by the way....if you use Google, you are paying your internet provider to achieve this #1: Really? Salary for TWO YEAR rn How much do 2 year rn's make? Houston Chronicle There are 2 year and 4 year paths to becoming an Rn. Shoulda used google. 2) I dont have a degree, and never said I had one. I just said I went to college. Reading comprehension skills need work, I see... 3)As for homeschooling, you proved my point. People can do just fine without the institution if they so desire. And guess what? The homeschooler gets their diploma at 14-16, while you get it at 18. They must be doing something right... 4)I said free or low cost. If you are going to critique me, at least read my post correctly! Once again, I can learn because I know how to read. I pick topics that interest me, and go all out with the internet and books. Know what's funny? When I go on and on about a subject, people assume it's from being in college. Nope, it's from reading and doing my own research! 2
Tayken Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 #1: Really? Salary for TWO YEAR rn How much do 2 year rn's make? Houston Chronicle There are 2 year and 4 year paths to becoming an Rn. Shoulda used google. 2) I dont have a degree, and never said I had one. I just said I went to college. Reading comprehension skills need work, I see... 3)As for homeschooling, you proved my point. People can do just fine without the institution if they so desire. And guess what? The homeschooler gets their diploma at 14-16, while you get it at 18. They must be doing something right... 4)I said free or low cost. If you are going to critique me, at least read my post correctly! Once again, I can learn because I know how to read. I pick topics that interest me, and go all out with the internet and books. Know what's funny? When I go on and on about a subject, people assume it's from being in college. Nope, it's from reading and doing my own research! Wow.....If you are going to use the generic term "college" as understood in the US, then be specific as not to lead someone on that you didn't actually attend a 4yr degree college You obviously intended to deceive, otherwise you would have made yourself clearer...I guess home schooling doesn't teach you clarity. From your own link: Degree A survey published in “Nursing2013,” a publication for nursing professionals, found that the choice of degree could improve salaries. Of the degree options for becoming an RN, a two-year degree provided the lowest pay, at an average of $58,000 a year as of 2011. Four-year bachelor’s degrees came in second, with an average of $64,400 a year. RNs with master's degrees had the highest earning potential at an average of $69,500 a year. You still have to take the exam and pass it to become a Registered Nurse (RN). Back to the original point.....If you don't have a degree, DO NOT PUT ON YOUR PROFILE THAT YOU HAVE ONE. Be proud of what you have as opposed to misleading people NOTE: I don't know the people you claim to be talking to, obviously our circles are different and we are in different countries. I am able to call BS, and stuff on the internet is not to be taken as Gospel...HOT POTATO (Really?)
Author BlessYourCottonSocks Posted February 25, 2014 Author Posted February 25, 2014 I only date women who are college educated because I want an equal in earning potential and intellectual discussion/capacity. However, if you were straight in your profile that you do not have a college degree and he asked you out anyway, then that wasn't really important to him. He probably met you and you were ditsy or not attractive enough so it was the excuse he gave. Just another perspective. No, we didn't meet. I'm not ditsy or unattractive, thank you. In fact, I was the one who said we are not a suitable match after he said something about my perky ass. Like I said, I have a different kind of education. I went into the Military and then I also got my license to be an Esthetician, which by the way requires TONS of extra classes/programs/certificates for the rest of your life in order to earn 50 grand or more. I did what I WANTED to do, not what is seen by society as "right". What about Realtors? It's just a license. No college needed. My mom made a million a year. Why did she need to go to college? She is one of the most intelligent people I know. College didn't bring her that intelligence. Same with my father, built beautiful million dollar homes. It was talent, not education that made him money. On the other hand, my brother is Lt Col in the Air Force, makes over a 100 grand a year. TONS of schooling. Has a PhD in analytical chemistry. He's been in college since he was 17, now 41. He is also very intelligent. This goes to show you either path you chose you can make a good living, but it's up to you on getting there. But having a degree, albeit it might help, doesn't mean you will earn a better living. Thing is, if you can't make money on talent, go to college. Do your thing, do what makes YOU happy. There are people who don't need college to make money. I'll be one of them.
Tayken Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 My mom made a million a year. Why did she need to go to college? She is one of the most intelligent people I know. College didn't bring her that intelligence. So she paid half of that in taxes though...correct? Yes realtors don't have to go to college, any fool can take the exam and pass it....however they have to kiss a lot of a$$, make investments up front just to sell homes as well as pay for their office space etc I think we all think our parents are intelligent...well, most of us that had our parents around. NOBODY said college "brings you intelligence", I think you are missing the point here...lady I don't know many hairdressers making 50k/yr...unless of course we are talking about set production and Hollywood types
Emilia Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 it's studies that can back this and not just my opinion, but the degree matters less for the man than it does for the women. if a man is more 'degreed' than his female companion it's ok - he has even one more reason to feel manly, or so say statistics. you'll find a lot of lesser-educated women with very high-earning degreed men. it comes down to respect, which is supposedly what men need far more than women. Not the case anymore now that more women go to university. Men don't marry their secretaries anymore but look for similar education background - as illustrated by this thread. Doctors don't marry nurses anymore but each other, there have been numerous studies about this. I'd also say that a man that values equal partnership does want to respect his wife's achievements. the women can respect the man and his degree, but she'd lose respect for him if he was significantly less intelligent than her. the smarter a woman is - the more degreed she is - the less likely she is to want to date and/or marry a man without a degree, or even get married at all (we're talking masters or professional level degrees and medical, not women with just a bachelor's). during college I had women's studies professors telling us that the more educated a woman is, the less attractive she becomes (in terms of dating) because a guy has to do a heck of a lot to impress, and to equal what she's going to be making, financially. I think this is pretty old school. 1
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