jaguar Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I think it is wierd. But it seems like searching for a job for me. The employers say they need somebody with experience. But how can I get experience without anybody giving me a chance? Women need a guy with experience, who moves easily with women and so on. But these things can be improved only with experience. So how can I start from zero and have all these qualities suddenly? Some woman has to settle at some point of time. But then I would be with somebody who settled. WTF? 1
SYLLPalmer Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 It is exactly like looking for a job but it doesn't end there. Your evaluation continues after getting hired and sometimes you get pink-slipped without indication. Rejection is rejection and it hurts. But the alternative is worse. Sometimes a lobotomy seems like the only solution. Why don't they do them anymore? 2
Smthn_Like_Olivia Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Sometimes you have to start at the bottom and just get your foot in the door to prove yourself and move up. You get experience where you can and then continue to build on it. Look for businesses or companies where you can do this at. **Edit** LOLOL. I'm sorry. I read that post ALL wrong! Like you were actually looking for a job! My bad! Edited February 1, 2014 by Smthn_Like_Olivia 1
NYSean Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 But beware of the people who have fake resumes.
Raena Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 So you find someone else who is also inexperienced and you learn together!
Woggle Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 It is also easier to get one if you already have one.
Frank2thepoint Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 So you find someone else who is also inexperienced and you learn together! Easier said than done. Maybe all the inexperienced folks can start a club to get things rolling.
Woggle Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 So you find someone else who is also inexperienced and you learn together! If you are a man they still want experience.
Author jaguar Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 If you are a man they still want experience. That is true, the women still want experience. It is just really hard.
ltjg45 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Easier said than done. Maybe all the inexperienced folks can start a club to get things rolling. No kidding. Almost every woman that is still a virgin at close to my age, I look at them and noticed immediately why..... Finding an semi-attractive virgin woman? Might as well forget about it. Your chances are so low, you aren't finding one unless you create one or go after a 18 year old....and even then, your chances isn't that much higher. Case-in-point: If you are like me, you got a lot of catching up to do. 1
antonio1149 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I think it is wierd. But it seems like searching for a job for me. The employers say they need somebody with experience. But how can I get experience without anybody giving me a chance? Women need a guy with experience, who moves easily with women and so on. But these things can be improved only with experience. So how can I start from zero and have all these qualities suddenly? Some woman has to settle at some point of time. But then I would be with somebody who settled. WTF? You inexperienced guys worry too much. Just get out there and start meeting ladies, even if it's only talking to them. Post an ad on a dating site, meet for coffee with no expectations. If you're good-looking, smart and nice, that will count for a lot more than tons of experience. And you don't have to tell anyone about your lack of experience--act cool and collected, you might be surprised that it never comes up. Read some books about relationships--there aren't a lot of great ones for men, most are about how score with lots of chicks, but "Women are from Venus, Men are From Mars" and "The Five Love Languages" come to mind. Also "The Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida. As for the sex part--it's not rocket science. Get together with someone at or slightly below your level of attractiveness--she'll be happy to show you the ropes. Good luck! 1
peej Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I push any conversation with girls about my previous relationships out of the picture until I know them a LOT better. If they wanna tell me about their ex or whatever I give them a couple minutes to do so and then move the conversation away from it as smooth as possible so she won't bring up my exes.
ZackSteele Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 @jaguar LOL! I 100% understand where your coming from in both the dating scene and the job search aspect You sound a lot like me when I had these views on both topics Heres my take: Before I started up my own company, I went on countless number of interviews The reoccurring outcome… I didn't have enough experience for the Job Before I got good with girls, I went out. I went out like 4 nights a week I did this for almost 2 months The reoccurring outcome… I couldn't get a date (I couldn't find the girl I was looking for) Well, What Changed? One thing was, My Belief System I knew I had to learn more, I knew I had to be more experienced I had to offer value, I had to stop 'wanting' something to come [biggest Change in My Life so far] Once I did this, my dating situation started to improve It really started taking off, and that had a snowball effect on my life I started dating. I started learning what women like. I started learning what I like in women. Then, I started learning what I like in Life I started my company based on that I am happy, and evolving everyday Its very cool And based on how much you remind me of myself saying that same thing I know you can experience this as well Much Love -Zack (PM me if you need any insight, need any advice, anything. Willing to help) 2
ponchsox Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 It's actually not like looking for a job. Employers don't play games, people who date do. That is what I don't have time for.
Guitarisgood Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 My view, it's not experience that's the problem. It's having the balls to carry out thing that is. Maybe that comes with experience but if you got guts i.e. on a date going for the kiss or letting her know you won't take her bull sh#t, that's what gets you in the door.
Priv Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 It is exactly like looking for a job but it doesn't end there. Your evaluation continues after getting hired and sometimes you get pink-slipped without indication. Rejection is rejection and it hurts. But the alternative is worse. Sometimes a lobotomy seems like the only solution. Why don't they do them anymore? Haha. Talking lobotomy perhaps this is your answer: Zombie: A New Original Short Story by Chuck Palahniuk Short story written by Palahniuk, funny, sad, and hopeful at the same time 1
Targetlock Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I often compare it to finding a job as well, as i'm trying to find a better job while at the same time trying to sort out my love life. dating sites sometimes reminds me of a job site and you are the product or something you are trying to sell. 1
WP4046 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I think it is wierd. But it seems like searching for a job for me. The employers say they need somebody with experience. But how can I get experience without anybody giving me a chance? Women need a guy with experience, who moves easily with women and so on. But these things can be improved only with experience. So how can I start from zero and have all these qualities suddenly? Some woman has to settle at some point of time. But then I would be with somebody who settled. WTF? Look for a woman who is either Unattractive or Average with low self esteem 1
WP4046 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 If you are a man they still want experience. Not if she has low self-esteem
kart180 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 Look for a woman who is either Unattractive or Average with low self esteem Unattractive and average women need love to
WP4046 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 Unattractive and average women need love to Those women are more willing to date a guy with no experience
Eau Claire Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 In some ways. We spend our formative years and teens developing social skills. Then we go out into the world. Some have the emotional base to be successful in employment, some successful in relationships....most in both. Good education, healthy lifestyle, etc. The division between the successful and others is when the unexpected consumes up. Have we prepared ourselves...adaptable. A Darwinian selection takes place for employment, mates. Some are successful, some not. 1
WP4046 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 In some ways. We spend our formative years and teens developing social skills. Then we go out into the world. Some have the emotional base to be successful in employment, some successful in relationships....most in both. Good education, healthy lifestyle, etc. The division between the successful and others is when the unexpected consumes up. Have we prepared ourselves...adaptable. A Darwinian selection takes place for employment, mates. Some are successful, some not. some people are late bloomers
SYLLPalmer Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 It's actually not like looking for a job. Employers don't play games, people who date do. That is what I don't have time for. Employers in a saturated work force play terrible games. Evasive, lack of honest feedback, unfair expectations, nit picking and down right cruel.
SYLLPalmer Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Haha. Talking lobotomy perhaps this is your answer: Zombie: A New Original Short Story by Chuck Palahniuk Short story written by Palahniuk, funny, sad, and hopeful at the same time That's exactly right! Quote from your link: "It's suicide, but it's not." and "After pushing the red defibrillator button, yeah, a person suffers some consequences, but he doesn't know he's suffering." That's the key. That was great. Thanks for sharing. Edited February 2, 2014 by SYLLPalmer
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