sarah12 Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 I agree with Zoot. Many times people have said to me "wow I didn't know you were THAT smart," as if they expected me to be dumb because I am attractive and I go out and have fun on a regular basis. So if this is what people assume about me before they actually meet me, then no wonder the intelligent guys I would like to ask me out, won't ask!
VirginiaBob Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 " She has to pass a beauty quiz , as well as the judgement of the less than beautiful, to get to the other side and be taken seriously beyond some trophy. " But the ones that aren't beautiful, have to take the beauty quiz also, but they fail instantly. At least the beautiful ones get a chance to prove themselves beyond this point.
johan Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 I've noticed that really pretty girls have the luxury of never being alone, at least if they are social at all. They are just as insecure as anyone else, and it's easy for them to find companionship. The ones I've known have rarely spent any really long periods of time alone, unlike many others who may find it harder to get a date. I guess my point is that they also tend to have a longer list of failed relationships, more heartbreak and more hard feelings toward men. And maybe they find it harder over time to really invest themselves into their relationships. So that can lead to loneliness, even when they aren't alone. There's a stereotype that really beautiful women are more messed up and difficult to be with than more "average" women are. From experience I can say that there is something to that. My hardest relationships have been the ones with the traffic-stoppers. Lots of anger and challenge and odd behavior. It's been very hard for me and the girl I'm with now to establish trust and clear out all the emotional crud. And she's the prettiest girl I've ever known. Kind of funny story: A couple of weeks ago she came to have lunch with me at my office where almost 2,000 people work. While we were eating a fire alarm went off. After I got back to my desk I was asking people if they knew what caused it. Word had gotten around that she had been there and a guy who has never seen her said people had been saying it was because she was there. Because she's so hot. I love that.
KissMyTiara Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Originally posted by Groovy I think it is even harder to get dates when you are smart and successful in a career as a woman added. Let's face it, if you're a good looking, smart, rich girl with a master's from the Ivy league university, you've eliminated a lot of men. I mean 20% or less of the US has college, then add good careers, a job or past a bachelor's degree. It starts shrinking with many people unwilling to date someone way off their path of education or income. It's been hard for me making more money and having more education than people I date and men don't like it. And I do think men are more hesitant to ask a hot girl out than an average one. I know for a fact that if you are a good looking, intelligent, ambitious, successful, well-educated, worldly SINGLE woman, you are more likely to be lonely than a woman who doesn't have those traits. I know this not just from my own personal experience, but that of my girlfriends as well. We are all well above-average physically, graduated with law degrees and MBAs from top universities, career-driven, successful, and well-traveled. Men, in general, are intimidated by this. Men, in general, date DOWN. Women, on the other hand, want to date UP or EQUAL. This makes for some mighty lonely women sometimes...
alphamale Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Originally posted by KissMyTiara I know for a fact that if you are a good looking, intelligent, ambitious, successful, well-educated, worldly SINGLE woman, you are more likely to be lonely than a woman who doesn't have those traits. I know this not just from my own personal experience, but that of my girlfriends as well. We are all well above-average physically, graduated with law degrees and MBAs from top universities, career-driven, successful, and well-traveled. You're correct that many of above women are lonely and find it hard to find a suitable match. But the again....you are talking about maybe 1% of the entire female population. I have seen that brains and looks are very likely to be mutually exclusive in females. The ones that have looks figure out very early on they can get much of what they want in life without develping their brains. And the ones without the looks learn very early on they need to develop their brains to survive. Sure, there are attractive women who are smart but they are few and far between. These are two qualities I look for in a woman and I find it very hard to find them in one woman.
KissMyTiara Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale You're correct that many of above women are lonely and find it hard to find a suitable match. But the again....you are talking about maybe 1% of the entire female population. I have seen that brains and looks are very likely to be mutually exclusive in females. The ones that have looks figure out very early on they can get much of what they want in life without develping their brains. And the ones without the looks learn very early on they need to develop their brains to survive. Sure, there are attractive women who are smart but they are few and far between. These are two qualities I look for in a woman and I find it very hard to find them in one woman. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Attractive women who are smart are few and far between? If you're without a mate, that explains why. You sound like a complete a$$.
Groovy Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Well I am not calling anyone here an A$$ but it's apparent quite a few woman agree that being good looking, having a career and brains makes it harder to find a match. Except for the men. I was dubbed as a stuck up snob admitting it on this post. There's nothing wrong with me knowing what I have is probably above average. My own house, a career and post graduate work. I'd be stupid to not know that most single woman don't have this and I am proud of my acheivements, so hate me. I don't think I am perfect with plenty to improve upon but know I am not bad looking at all either. It's not a crime to want to date people who have things in common with you, though you can't expect everything to be matched. It's just a fact most people do not college backgrounds, let alone post grad work, most people who are single do not earn enough to own homes, etc. I myself would like someone who is educated but middle class, or someone who is not educated but persistant enough to have ambition and get a foot in the door, someone who doesn't necessarily own a home. I don't require these things. I require good conversation, respect and mutual values. I'd just like to see them ideally with the same goals, at least some of them for a long term relationship. Someone who can keep me fueled in my goals.
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