Am I insane for wanting to be wined and dined?

[Woggle]

I am happy for you. She must be glad you like women so much.

 

I don't hate women. I am just very outspoken about gender issues. I say the same thing to men who want a traditional woman but don't want to play their role. I just don't like hypocrites and there is a lot of hypocrisy over gender role.

[OpheliaSong]

I don't hate women. I am just very outspoken about gender issues. I say the same thing to men who want a traditional woman but don't want to play their role. I just don't like hypocrites and there is a lot of hypocrisy over gender role.

 

The thing that I don't understand is why people care what other people do and try to change their mind so much. If you aren't compatible, you aren't compatible. I will find a man who appreciates the gender role I choose and I will find a man who is compatible with that with the gender role he has chosen. No one else really matters after that.

The sociological theories and rathers of others be damned. They don't live my life and neither do you so if someone likes a dating practice, some aggressive guy or woman on the internet isn't going to change my mind about it.

She wanted to know if she is insane for wanting the guy to pay occasionally...not whether or not that preference is compatible with everyone's belief here. She just wanted opinions on why or why not, not whether women are goldiggers and men are cheap. Too often these discussions turn into men baiting women and women batting men. Agree to disagree, not to try to mentally work out the issues of exes who were cruel to you. Baggage makes people here mean sometimes to the opposite sex and we are here trying to figure out how to have relationships with each other...makes no sense.

I have had my heart broken, and I have had men do some crazy stuff but I try not to take it out on the nice men here who want to discuss how to make our dating, LTRs and marriages better.

[Woggle]

The thing that I don't understand is why people care what other people do and try to change their mind so much. If you aren't compatible, you aren't compatible. I will find a man who appreciates the gender role I choose and I will find a man who is compatible with that with the gender role he has chosen. No one else really matters after that.

The sociological theories and rathers of others be damned. They don't live my life and neither do you so if someone likes a dating practice, some aggressive guy or woman on the internet isn't going to change my mind about it.

She wanted to know if she is insane for wanting the guy to pay occasionally...not whether or not that preference is compatible with everyone's belief here. She just wanted opinions on why or why not, not whether women are goldiggers and men are cheap. Too often these discussions turn into men baiting women and women batting men. Agree to disagree, not to try to mentally work out the issues of exes who were cruel to you. Baggage makes people here mean sometimes to the opposite sex and we are here trying to figure out how to have relationships with each other...makes no sense.

I have had my heart broken, and I have had men do some crazy stuff but I try not to take it out on the nice men here who want to discuss how to make our dating, LTRs and marriages better.

 

What gets me is how men are chewed out for wanting a traditional but these same women want a man who is traditional.

[StanMusial]

Giving so-called 'men' excuses to be liars and cheats is more man-hating than anything I could ever say.

 

 

I have zero tolerance for people who prey on the good will and trust of those who are trying to find love. That is the 'players' stock and trade.

 

 

You talk about 'good women' Woggle... who are nurturing and caring. Well, that trust is abused by the very same shyteheads you call your 'friends'... and sounds to me like you give them cover with your continued association with them.

 

Many, many women rush headlong into mixups with players despite all the red flags, explicit warnings, even begging and pleading. I have seen it personally a countless number of times. There are no doubt those who prey on the goodwill of others but in my experience, more often than not that's just not the case. "Goodwill" has little to do with why they go for "the player".

[Woggle]

Many, many women rush headlong into mixups with players despite all the red flags, explicit warnings, even begging and pleading. I have seen it personally a countless number of times. There are no doubt those who prey on the goodwill of others but in my experience, more often than not that's just not the case. "Goodwill" has little to do with why they go for "the player".

 

Exactly. How do you explain women that willingly pursue married men? If you chase after somebody who is already married and get played can you really call yourself a victim. It's like sticking your hand in a piranha tank and then getting mad at the fish. The same goes for men who get played by married women as well.

 

I find I have less and less empathy for people who knowingly jump into bad situations and then want to hate the entire opposite sex when the inevitable happens. I have all the empathy in the world for betrayed spouses and people who are genuinely betrayed but not so much for those who seem to seek out trouble.

[Robert]

Since the last few pages have been off topic and the thread starter hasn't posted on the thread in a while I'll close the thread.

[William]

The report read 'off-topic' and a quick read of the rhetoric on the last page or two certainly supports that so we'll save the members involved the indignity of suspension for their vitriol and close the thread, noting who was involved. You got a break this lovely Saturday morning! For those who chose to remain civil and topical, thank you!