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^^^Your post is spot on. I agree 100%. These types of women use a good guy until the next scum bag comes along. Then she drops the good guy like a hot potato. She pretty much used the good guy knowing damm well she is into scumbags. This is why I suggest to any self-respecting guy do not walk away from these types of women bur RUN!!!!!!!And really fast.. The women are low and drain you.

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My ex told me how great a guy and what an eligible bachelor I was but looking at her ex husband who was a coke abuser and felon and her ex bf who looked like a complete loser, why do some women date with such low standards? Is it a control thing and does it make them feel better?

 

Emotional security, lack of a proper father figure to teach her how she should be treated, she loves excitement, she loves drama, she has low expectations for her self and thus her partners as well, she doesn't mind settling as so long as she is not solo.

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most "losers" tend to have one common trait..... most of them can be very charming when the need suits them. The moment a woman notices something slightly undesirable, he can turn the charm back on.

 

That, and also - some women (like myself) Like to believe the best in people, are very idealistic, and believe that because we overcame difficult situations, that anyone can (not true)

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All losers have one thing in common. THEY ARE NEVER SINGLE!!!!Woman are waiting to worship the ground they walk on. But meanwhile back at the ranch would not give a stable guy a chance. After the good guy has done all he can possibly(SP) do. Then she will either ignore his good traits or use him.

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All losers have one thing in common. THEY ARE NEVER SINGLE!!!!Woman are waiting to worship the ground they walk on. But meanwhile back at the ranch would not give a stable guy a chance. After the good guy has done all he can possibly(SP) do. Then she will either ignore his good traits or use him.

 

I've been single my entire life.

 

Your theory doesn't hold to entire losers "race".

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I'm going to go ahead and say women are dating losers like this because, if you think about it, the ultimate fairy tale ending to a love story like this would be that our love will change him.

 

Cue in birdies and puppies and walking off in the sunlight hand in hand...

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All losers have one thing in common. THEY ARE NEVER SINGLE!!!!Woman are waiting to worship the ground they walk on. But meanwhile back at the ranch would not give a stable guy a chance. After the good guy has done all he can possibly(SP) do. Then she will either ignore his good traits or use him.

 

My ex GF's ex husband was a complete loser, a felon and coke head. Then I came along and I was the saint and very eligible bachelor. It's like she couldn't use me a her project because I was already successful in life.

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My ex GF's ex husband was a complete loser, a felon and coke head. Then I came along and I was the saint and very eligible bachelor. It's like she couldn't use me a her project because I was already successful in life.

 

Keep telling yourself this, it will save you having to make any real changes. If you were such an eligible bachelor, you wouldn't be a bachelor for very long. There certainly isn't a shortage of woman who want to get married.

 

I don't know you, so I don't know why you're not being successful, but from just reading your posts, your attitude is all wrong.

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Do you know the poster above you?^^^^^^Then if you don't then you do not have a clue. I know plenty of guys that are good men in their 30s and beyond that have had very bad luck. And guess what? It is not their fault women cannot tell the difference between losers and somebody that has his crap together. Sorry you do not have a clue!!!!

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Do you know the poster above you?^^^^^^Then if you don't then you do not have a clue. I know plenty of guys that are good men in their 30s and beyond that have had very bad luck. And guess what? It is not there fault women cannot tell the difference between losers and somebody that has his crap together. Sorry you do not have a clue!!!!

 

I already said I don't know him. I'm just making an observation based on his posts. Blaming women for making 'poor choices', is not a good stand point to come from, if you want a woman. Some women don't like the sense of entitlement that some people have, that just because they think they have their **** together, she should never leave.

 

As I'm sure you know, a woman is a complex beast, and probably changes her mind more often than her knickers. Therefore, you need to go with the flow a bit more. Being the steady, reliable 'nice guy', is a big turn off for them. Although, I'm sure their mothers would love you.

 

The thread, and contributors to it, have so many levels of fail, that I can't even be bothered pointing it out. I might be the one 'without a clue', but I challenge you to find a single post I've made, decrying that I can't get a woman.

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I already said I don't know him. I'm just making an observation based on his posts. Blaming women for making 'poor choices', is not a good stand point to come from, if you want a woman. Some women don't like the sense of entitlement that some people have, that just because they think they have their **** together, she should never leave.

 

As I'm sure you know, a woman is a complex beast, and probably changes her mind more often than her knickers. Therefore, you need to go with the flow a bit more. Being the steady, reliable 'nice guy', is a big turn off for them. Although, I'm sure their mothers would love you.

 

The thread, and contributors to it, have so many levels of fail, that I can't even be bothered pointing it out. I might be the one 'without a clue', but I challenge you to find a single post I've made, decrying that I can't get a woman.

So you read a couple of sentences and you know all about a person and their past. GOSH!!!Your good. I do not see anybody with a sense of entitlement. OH!!!About the steady,reliable NICE guy is a big turn off. I could not agree more. This is why you rarely see if any a DRUNK,drug addict,jailbird,bum,welfare cases,drug dealer men single. I have yet to see my 47 year years on this earth that any of these scumbags doing without a woman. These winners are not entitled(SP). Women adore these drama kings. Meanwhile back at the ranch when MR. Exciting done had his entitlement and done left ship for the next woman in line waiting for him. And again you mention about bad choices in women. So what are you saying that after a woman lies to a man in what she wants and then changes her mind it is the mans fault for not reading her mind. AGAIN!!!YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE, Unless you think a man is suppose to know a woman is going to change her mind. So why is it his fault?????????????

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I can understand if you've been with someone for some time and you've built a home or family with them and for some it's more difficult to leave versus staying if you don't have the means to move out and move on. If you're young, sometimes you think you can both grow and change together and sometimes it takes years to really figure another person out and that they're not going to change. This usually comes from experience if you were young and immature when getting involved together. It could also be a result of lack of own self esteem.

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So you read a couple of sentences and you know all about a person and their past. GOSH!!!Your good. I do not see anybody with a sense of entitlement. OH!!!About the steady,reliable NICE guy is a big turn off. I could not agree more. This is why you rarely see if any a DRUNK,drug addict,jailbird,bum,welfare cases,drug dealer men single. I have yet to see my 47 year years on this earth that any of these scumbags doing without a woman. These winners are not entitled(SP). Women adore these drama kings. Meanwhile back at the ranch when MR. Exciting done had his entitlement and done left ship for the next woman in line waiting for him. And again you mention about bad choices in women. So what are you saying that after a woman lies to a man in what she wants and then changes her mind it is the mans fault for not reading her mind. AGAIN!!!YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE, Unless you think a man is suppose to know a woman is going to change her mind. So why is it his fault?????????????

 

Quite a rant there, but your anger is wasted directed at me. It's not my fault if someone can't find/keep a woman. Neither is it the woman's fault, or indeed the 'losers' fault. I'm merely trying to explain that the 'nice guy' persona is not attractive to SOME, possibly most women.

 

The trouble lies with attaching blame to anyone but yourself. If I wanted something really badly, I'd sure as hell find out the best way to get it. I wouldn't just mould myself to be one way, then expect a queue at my door.

 

Women, in my experience need three things. A satisfying sex life, a ready supply of dopamine, and someone who challenges them, either emotionally, or intellectually. The fact that people you consider to be 'losers' are better providers of this, is your problem, not theirs.

 

I'm generalising, which I don't like doing, but it seems to be the theme of the thread, so I'll roll with it. If you're just a bit angry and bitter because a woman has left you, then thems the breaks. Newsflash, people leave people everyday. The reasons are often complex, and sometimes unexplainable. The problem with the 'nice guy', is he thinks it's because he's too nice. It's a total cop-out from self-improvement, and leads to a lifetime of resentment and bitterness.

 

If 'nice guys' spent a fraction of the time trying to actually understand the object of their desires, instead of bleating about how unfair it all is, they would be much happier people.

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The fact that people you consider to be 'losers' are better providers of this, is your problem, not theirs.

 

 

These 'losers' end up cheating on women, making them single moms, and then women complain all men are jerks. I'd rather be a single successful man than a POS loser who are "better" providers.

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Quite a rant there, but your anger is wasted directed at me. It's not my fault if someone can't find/keep a woman. Neither is it the woman's fault, or indeed the 'losers' fault. I'm merely trying to explain that the 'nice guy' persona is not attractive to SOME, possibly most women.

 

The trouble lies with attaching blame to anyone but yourself. If I wanted something really badly, I'd sure as hell find out the best way to get it. I wouldn't just mould myself to be one way, then expect a queue at my door.

 

Women, in my experience need three things. A satisfying sex life, a ready supply of dopamine, and someone who challenges them, either emotionally, or intellectually. The fact that people you consider to be 'losers' are better providers of this, is your problem, not theirs.

 

I'm generalising, which I don't like doing, but it seems to be the theme of the thread, so I'll roll with it. If you're just a bit angry and bitter because a woman has left you, then thems the breaks. Newsflash, people leave people everyday. The reasons are often complex, and sometimes unexplainable. The problem with the 'nice guy', is he thinks it's because he's too nice. It's a total cop-out from self-improvement, and leads to a lifetime of resentment and bitterness.

 

If 'nice guys' spent a fraction of the time trying to actually understand the object of their desires, instead of bleating about how unfair it all is, they would be much happier people.

I see you have no morals. So being a loser in a loser relationship is better than being single and having morals. WOW!!!I did not know that nice guys with a positive outlook are unhappy and a guy that is a drunk,drug addict,jailbird and a drug sealer is the happy positive one. Well thanks for the news flash. ME thinks you need to learn more about what is RIGHT and what is WRONG!!!!In other words get a back bone and get some morals
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These 'losers' end up cheating on women, making them single moms, and then women complain all men are jerks. I'd rather be a single successful man than a POS loser who are "better" providers.

I agree, But according to Mr. No morals it is better to be a scumbag in a relationship than to have standards. I rather be single than be with a woman that does not know how to be respected. She rather be with a scumbag than a guy that has standards.

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These 'losers' end up cheating on women, making them single moms, and then women complain all men are jerks. I'd rather be a single successful man than a POS loser who are "better" providers.

 

The worst thing would be to be a "nice guy" who that single mom settles for and belittles for sins of those "loser" guys.

 

Those "nice guys" would be the best providers, and providing would probably be the only reason those single moms settled for them. All while probably still thinking of and craving "losers'" company, which would often materialize as infidelity.

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I see you have no morals. So being a loser in a loser relationship is better than being single and having morals. WOW!!!I did not know that nice guys with a positive outlook are unhappy and a guy that is a drunk,drug addict,jailbird and a drug sealer is the happy positive one. Well thanks for the news flash. ME thinks you need to learn more about what is RIGHT and what is WRONG!!!!In other words get a back bone and get some morals

What has my morals got to do with anything? I give up. Enjoy your life of rage, and bitterness.

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Funny, I could say the same about men.

 

The last be left for a girl who loved thugs. The one before left for a girl who eventually stabbed him.

 

To each his own I suppose...

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The worst thing would be to be a "nice guy" who that single mom settles for and belittles for sins of those "loser" guys.

 

Those "nice guys" would be the best providers, and providing would probably be the only reason those single moms settled for them. All while probably still thinking of and craving "losers'" company, which would often materialize as infidelity.

I agree 100% with your post. There are some guys like myself that would never come 1000 miles near a woman like this. They would rather be single than to deal with a woman that has been with every two time loser in town. I would suggest to any good guy to stay well clear of these types. There are reasons why a woman has a relationship with a scumbag. what does that say about her. And even worse. Having kids with losers.

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I agree 100% with your post. There are some guys like myself that would never come 1000 miles near a woman like this. They would rather be single than to deal with a woman that has been with every two time loser in town. I would suggest to any good guy to stay well clear of these types. There are reasons why a woman has a relationship with a scumbag. what does that say about her. And even worse. Having kids with losers.

 

The judgment is strong with this one. I've never thought of not dating a guy because he made mistakes in the past.

 

Guess what? Some of these scumbags call themselves nice guys. They are nice until something doesn't go their way.

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Women are told by society that to be a 'woman' and 'feminine' is to be trusting and caring.

 

All too often, that means they don't pay attention to their own needs and disregard the red flags from 'losers' and 'bottom feeders'.

 

Also, keep in mind that proportion of 'losers' and 'bottom feeders' are much higher among men than women... if you count the number of men in prison, are violent, or addicts... compared to women.

 

In other words, there are just more of them. Some women would rather take a chance with one of those guys (especially if her father and other role models were also that way) than be single and celibate.

 

I find it interesting that, when a woman dates a 'loser' she is painted with the same brush he is... but when a man dates a female 'loser', his reputation is not tarnished in the slightest.

 

It's one of the main reasons I'm extremely careful who I date. I don't want a reputation of dating losers. In my town, that is very tough to do. They camouflage themselves very well. It only leaks out after a month or two of dating... sometimes more.

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The judgment is strong with this one. I've never thought of not dating a guy because he made mistakes in the past.

 

Guess what? Some of these scumbags call themselves nice guys. They are nice until something doesn't go their way.

To each their own. If you want to date a guy that has a history of hanging around sluts and bar whores, Then knock yourself out. Whatever floats your boat. Personally after I hear that a woman that has been with whoremongers,drug addicts,jail birds,bums,bar lizards and drunks then I am not walking, I AM RUNNING real fast. They scare me

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I agree 100% with your post. There are some guys like myself that would never come 1000 miles near a woman like this. They would rather be single than to deal with a woman that has been with every two time loser in town. I would suggest to any good guy to stay well clear of these types. There are reasons why a woman has a relationship with a scumbag. what does that say about her. And even worse. Having kids with losers.

 

My ex GF had a kid with a loser that she claimed walked out on her but what she did not tell me was he was convicted of aggravated battery while they were married. I found this out looking online a year into our relationship. She seemed pissed I was looking and I asked her why she never told me. Maybe she felt embarrassed, but I was pretty much done at this point. Now daddy is out of prison and just got popped for coke possession and he can't see his son (and free her up). She complained that she never had any time to do anything because she's a single mom. I was more than accommodating for her. I'm done with single moms and divorcees with ex drama. Plenty of women out there without kids and haven't been married. I understand people make bad decisions, but these decisions show very poor judgement and makes me question what they really want.

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My ex GF had a kid with a loser that she claimed walked out on her but what she did not tell me was he was convicted of aggravated battery while they were married. I found this out looking online a year into our relationship. She seemed pissed I was looking and I asked her why she never told me. Maybe she felt embarrassed, but I was pretty much done at this point. Now daddy is out of prison and just got popped for coke possession and he can't see his son (and free her up). She complained that she never had any time to do anything because she's a single mom. I was more than accommodating for her. I'm done with single moms and divorcees with ex drama. Plenty of women out there without kids and haven't been married. I understand people make bad decisions, but these decisions show very poor judgement and makes me question what they really want.
I do not blame you for leaving that woman. The problem is there are very few women that really want a good stable guy. Most are into the drama you are talking about. But when Mr. Drama king is on to the next woman. The woman he left want to know where are the good guys knowing dam well she wants a drama king. She will lead a good guy on until Mr. exciting comes along. Even have a kid with this worthless piece of crap. Maybe even 3 or 4 kids knowing damm well he cannot support himself. For the life of me why do women have kids with a man that cannot support himself. It is kind of selfish if you ask me. Then the kids more times than not lives a life of poverty.
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