I Think I've Finally Figured Young American Women Out...

[spinaroonie]

I see a lot of guys here complaining about not having any success with women.

 

The problem is too many guys here apply a 1950s "courtship model" to 21st century America.

 

Reality check.

 

Women submit to dominant men.

 

And modern American women - being the most dominant of all women - naturally need to submit to an even more dominant man to satiate their primal hindbrains.

 

In patriarchal, non-feminized cultures where men still command respect, a man is assumed alpha until he proves otherwise. Watch Mad men. Or go anywhere outside the West. The men are masculine. The women are feminine. There is a healthy masculine-feminine polarity. There is a healthy relationship dynamic.

 

In the feminist West where men are scorned, a man is assumed beta until he proves otherwise. The men are increasingly feminine. The women are increasingly masculine. Men can't find "feminine ladies". Women can't find "real men." The masculine-feminine polarity is distorted. There is no healthy relationship dynamic.

 

This is why American women lust for exaggerated caricatures of hypermasculinity - tall guys, roid monkeys, thugs, outlaws, criminals, drug dealers etc. These are the only guys who project dominance on sight.

 

Every other guy is assumed beta by default unless he proves otherwise.

 

The threshold for dominance is much higher in America today than anytime before anywhere in the civilized world.

 

And this is why average guys today MUST have at least ONE of the following three to be successful with American women today:

 

(1) EXERT PHYSICAL DOMINANCE: hit the gym (build muscles, raise testosterone levels)

 

(2) EXERT PSYCHOSOCIAL DOMINANCE: learn game (carry yourself in a calm authoritative manner, handle **** tests) to project masculinity

 

(3) EXERT STATUS: (money, car, assets, social status that is above hers so she will look up to you and respect you)

 

Only then will the panties drop.

[Imported]

Women (many) have always been pretty submissive. This is not new.

[ChessPieceFace]

modern American women - being the most dominant of all women - naturally need to submit to an even more dominant man to satiate their primal hindbrains.

 

Excellent observation. I hadn't thought of this aspect of the dynamics, but it makes perfect sense. Not only are we held down, but the bar has been raised. Thanks for the post.

[elbe]

How depressing.. I like to think we are slightly higher up the scale of evolution than primates.

[lollipopspot]

How depressing.. I like to think we are slightly higher up the scale of evolution than primates.

 

Humans are primates.

[elbe]

Humans are primates.

 

True enough, but you know what I mean. I like to think we are more than biologically driven to reproduce. It almost turns into a debate over will power.

[lollipopspot]

True enough, but you know what I mean. I like to think we are more than biologically driven to reproduce. It almost turns into a debate over will power.

 

Some people aren't more advanced than that, and some nonhumans are more advanced than that.

 

I think that strict divide of humans vs. all other animals is incorrect. You elevate humans too much and denigrate all other animals too much.

[Under The Radar]

If being "alpha" or a "bad boy" is the ticket to attracting women then why is the divorce rate so high? Of course, this is assuming, as a guy, you want a LTR or marriage. If just getting laid is the goal, I suppose, then carry on.

 

However, with the divorce rate at 50%, and a further percentage unhappily cohabitating without a divorce, clearly just being masculine/dominant isn't the answer.

 

Many relationship failures involve men possessing the character traits and attributes you are advocating.

[elbe]

Some people aren't more advanced than that, and some nonhumans are more advanced than that.

 

I think that strict divide of humans vs. all other animals is incorrect. You elevate humans too much and denigrate all other animals too much.

 

I don't disagree about the divide and of course we are animals. You would think though in an age with computers, feminists, etc. it would be more complicated than women seeks alpha male.

[elbe]

One of two things happen:

 

1) The woman can't get the alphas to commit and settle for the betas as providers. Then they cheat and divorce.

 

2) The man acts alpha, but isn't naturally alpha....or was alpha and something happened in his life to make him lose that trait. Then the woman cheats and divorces them.

 

Alphas only divorce if they (the man) cheat and get caught.

 

Wow, really making a lot of assumptions aren't we?

[Under The Radar]

That's not true. There are plenty of masculine and domineering guys out there that get left by women. You cannot generalize the entire population.

[ConstantVoyager]

It's kind of hilarious to watch people lump billions of humans with highly divergent personality types into a couple of strictly defined categories.

[c57dood]

Reality check: OP is another mindless PUA/game/alphabeta drone who can't think for themselves. They parrot what they read on some blog by a self proclaimed "alpha" and believe it.

 

No wonder you suck with women, you can't think for yourself.

[BikerAccnt]

I do kind of like the term "primal hindbrains" though.

 

It will make a good insult to sling about at the right times.

 

Something like..."listen you ahole, quit thinking with your primal hindbrain.

[ChessPieceFace]

If being "alpha" or a "bad boy" is the ticket to attracting women then why is the divorce rate so high?

 

Alphas use women. Betas marry them. Figure it out.

[elbe]

Alphas use women. Betas marry them. Figure it out.

 

I'm starting to actually feel bad for women.

[TB Rhine]

That's not true. There are plenty of masculine and domineering guys out there that get left by women.

 

For rich/better-looking dudes.

[runningfar]

So uhh.. I should watchMad Men for healthy relationship dynamics?

[runningfar]

One of two things happen:

 

1) The woman can't get the alphas to commit and settle for the betas as providers. Then they cheat and divorce.

 

2) The man acts alpha, but isn't naturally alpha....or was alpha and something happened in his life to make him lose that trait. Then the woman cheats and divorces them.

 

Alphas only divorce if they (the man) cheat and get caught.

 

No true Scotsman...

[runningfar]

sad truth. idiot females and blacks now sue everybody and don't earn anything on their own. just lawsuits.

 

Sometimes I wonder when the common throwing in of the racism with the sexism will make some realize the ridiculousness of their argument, but it doesn't appear to happen. Interesting.

[WP4046]

I see a lot of guys here complaining about not having any success with women.

 

The problem is too many guys here apply a 1950s "courtship model" to 21st century America.

 

Reality check.

 

Women submit to dominant men.

 

And modern American women - being the most dominant of all women - naturally need to submit to an even more dominant man to satiate their primal hindbrains.

 

In patriarchal, non-feminized cultures where men still command respect, a man is assumed alpha until he proves otherwise. Watch Mad men. Or go anywhere outside the West. The men are masculine. The women are feminine. There is a healthy masculine-feminine polarity. There is a healthy relationship dynamic.

 

In the feminist West where men are scorned, a man is assumed beta until he proves otherwise. The men are increasingly feminine. The women are increasingly masculine. Men can't find "feminine ladies". Women can't find "real men." The masculine-feminine polarity is distorted. There is no healthy relationship dynamic.

 

This is why American women lust for exaggerated caricatures of hypermasculinity - tall guys, roid monkeys, thugs, outlaws, criminals, drug dealers etc. These are the only guys who project dominance on sight.

 

Every other guy is assumed beta by default unless he proves otherwise.

 

The threshold for dominance is much higher in America today than anytime before anywhere in the civilized world.

 

And this is why average guys today MUST have at least ONE of the following three to be successful with American women today:

 

(1) EXERT PHYSICAL DOMINANCE: hit the gym (build muscles, raise testosterone levels)

 

(2) EXERT PSYCHOSOCIAL DOMINANCE: learn game (carry yourself in a calm authoritative manner, handle **** tests) to project masculinity

 

(3) EXERT STATUS: (money, car, assets, social status that is above hers so she will look up to you and respect you)

 

Only then will the panties drop.

 

 

 

Wonder if that's why some women refer to me as "sir" lol

[WP4046]

One of two things happen:

 

1) The woman can't get the alphas to commit and settle for the betas as providers. Then they cheat and divorce.

 

2) The man acts alpha, but isn't naturally alpha....or was alpha and something happened in his life to make him lose that trait. Then the woman cheats and divorces them.

 

Alphas only divorce if they (the man) cheat and get caught.

 

 

Your number 1 and 2 lol

[FitChick]

The woman can't get the alphas to commit and settle for the betas as providers. Then they cheat and divorce.

 

Sounds like billionaire Rupert Murdoch is 'beta' since his third wife just divorced him. Someone needs to tell him before he buys up yet another major global corporation.

[WP4046]

That is the true definition of having your cake and eating it too

 

"Having sex with a bad boy on the side while being taken care of by another man'

 

 

SMH

[Under The Radar]

Alphas use women. Betas marry them. Figure it out.

 

 

Thank you for that profound explanation. I think your progressive revelations have just lightened and brightened my world .