Never Again Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Alright folks, time to compare! I asked a question, and AShogunNamedMarcus gave it a go before I showed him the results. Let's see what you all think! Answers are posted without revealing the source for more fun fun fun. Question: I recently went through a confusing and emotional breakup and am seeking clarity. What were my ex's thoughts, feelings and intentions the last time we saw each other, at our friends' wedding? Answer 1: I sense a struggle within your ex. Even though she cares about you, she is confused as to how she'll feel down the road. This struggle creates a wedge that only continues to split with time and is responsible for the mixed signals you received. Her want for independence is at odds with her desire to have a relationship. This confusion is creating resentment because she can't be sure of who to blame. She wants you to see her the way she is now trying to see herself. Strong and beautiful, but free to do as she wants. At her core, seeing you at the wedding made her sad. Even if she wasn't completely showing it on the surface, she still pictured the two of you at that altar. This last time you saw one another left you both confused. You knew you weren't quite healed yet. Both of you were putting on your best front. My advice is not to seek closure from her for this. She needs this time to figure everything out. Interaction at this point will only stir up that pot of confusion and resentment. Answer 2: There were lots of momentary sensations in her during this time period, not one overwhelming state of being. She felt resentment toward you in the beginning of that day, I sense. This resentment was fueled by her being uncomfortable about seeing you in this context. She felt anxious about seeing you because in her mind she will not be able to find someone to be with long term and you were the one person she had hoped this would feel right with. So, the context of the event and the meeting place affected how she felt about you as much as her seeing you in the moment. Try to remember, we don't think in a vacuum of our environment. You were there in her mind and affected her but other aspects of the day also affected some of the impressions she felt about you. She felt a lot of love for you at one point. Overwhelming feelings of regret and a sense of loss. Then she pulled back on those more vulnerable feelings and told herself she and you could be friends. She felt it was not outside her ability. In this moment here is where I saw her bending things in her mind to justify her behaving differently than her best interest. I sensed a duplicity in her mind as she felt it was possible to be friends with you and engage you but she also felt it would not be possible because to do so would likely open her up to her feelings. I don't think from what I'm seeing that she made a real attempt to push back on that fear or redefine her attitude about this relationship after this initial wave . So, she continued to feel that it would not be a good idea to open up to you her wiliness to try quickly fell apart not long after speaking with you and over the course of the next day or so. So, she never really opened up to the idea of reengaging you even though in the moment she did think it would be something she wanted. She misses you at times, but she is actively making a point to continue to pull back and move on until she breaks this connection. It's not uncommon for a person to not want to address his or her fears but she is proceeding in such a way that minimizes her chances of becoming self aware enough to truly change her actions. I felt a lot of pent up feelings of guilt in her, but mostly she has justified this. Even though I do sense that in the moment she did think that she and you could and should try to be friends, that simply didn't last long after she felt this way. I wish what I saw was a bit more positive but I wanted to be honest with you about what I saw. In the future, if you both meet at an event or see each other, she likely would converse with you, but it's not looking good on her furthering it beyond that as she falls victim to the duplicitous nature of her core feelings about this relationship. There is not much you can do to cause another person to change. But there is a great deal you can do to change how you are dealing with your situation. You merely have to focus on where you have power and in this act you can shift the nature of your situation. This does not mean you can magically make things okay with your ex, but it means you may be able to heal a bit and learn to forgive her for being so damaged that she can not get passed her issues. Please, if you have any concerns, questions or needs for clarification, don't hesitate to email me here. I hope you well and hope to hear from you again. 2
KatZee Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 I see you've met Tammy and Jimmy Baker as well. Not sure who either of those people are, but OK.
Am4Real Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Popular televangelists in the 80’s as an offshoot of the PTL Club – full of future sightings – then it all went south for them with. In short, a couple of practicing Psychics camouflaging themselves as religious evangelists. After years of raking in multi-millions on the promise land of the future, admits never having read the Bible. The IRS makes a claim of more than $6M in unpaid taxes. Him and his wife were quite the story in the late 80's and early 90's. Scary people in their photographs as well. LINK HERE Not sure who either of those people are, but OK. 1
letsplaygofish2 Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 You guys are such hypocrites! Everyone copes with situations differently. I too, have been to a psychic and have experienced relief. But all in all, who CARES whether it worked or not, or whether it's true? Why are you guys so judgmental about whether a psychic is phony or not? aaron11892 came here to share some personal sentiments to work through his emotions. And now you guys are debating about the validity of psychics? Go get a life. 2
mtnbiker3000 Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 It's called a forum. With lot's of opinion's about lots of things. 3
writergal Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 I know, I have never believed in psychics at all, let alone getting a reading over email. But the way he talked about my ex, especially her stubbornness and not knowing what she wanted sounded exactly like her. I spoke to her nan a few days after the BU and she even told me my ex doesn't know what she wants and is very confused. Also the psychic mentioned her determination to keep her distance from me. She blocked me from facebook, told me to leave her alone and not talk to her again...It just sounds so much like her. I haven't read through everyone else's responses. But I will say this, and I hope that you listen: 1. Psychics are FAKE. It's a well-known, well-proven fact. 2. Ask your ex-girlfriend if she wants to get back together with you. Stop asking complete strangers -- esp. psychics who are FAKE. I understand you may be hurting from your break-up. But if your ex-girlfriend doesn't want to see or talk to you again, then a FAKE psychic isn't going to tell you anything different (or if he/she does then its just them conning you). Please let go of your ex-girlfriend and move on. Breakups are hard. But they happen. It's life. You will get over her and you will meet someone else. Stop wasting your time with sending emails to psychics. They are just people looking to make a buck online from emotionally vulnerable people. These people do not know you and are very good at conning strangers out of their dignity and their money. 3
ConfusedHumanBeing Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 You guys are such hypocrites! Everyone copes with situations differently. I too, have been to a psychic and have experienced relief. But all in all, who CARES whether it worked or not, or whether it's true? Why are you guys so judgmental about whether a psychic is phony or not? aaron11892 came here to share some personal sentiments to work through his emotions. And now you guys are debating about the validity of psychics? Go get a life. How's the weather up there on your high horse? 2
ConfusedHumanBeing Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Funny. You hankering after the something me thinks. You have opinions on everything. Just makes me chuckle that you dismiss but know everything. So you have have been through everything that didnt work? It might work for others? Yep you have no story. Be on here long enough and you'll see the same story/attempts/failures/emotions/etc. Stories are the same but the characters are different.
Never Again Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Ok confused, i appreciate that. I am not having ago.Just if someone sees hope somewhere, is that wrong? yes of course it is! But there is no need to shoot them down so readily. People will try anything. Aspiring `bless her cotton socks`, seems to have been through all of these things. Like i said, just curious. NOT hostile. I am a big softy. Haydin, we ALL have a big soft side here. I tend to be one of the gentler voices...but I still say the same things. I always have hope, but I also know how dangerous it can be. Hope is a source of self destruction if we're not careful. I advocate any responsible avenues for coping. This particular "psychic" actually doesn't bother me so much because he's not providing false hope as much as he's providing wishy-washy "understanding". He's far less damaging that the psychics that suggest "they'll come back!...IF you follow my guidance (for 4.99 a minute). He's providing very similar advice and "understanding" that we give here for free. However, he's likely very comforting and charismatic. However, I don't approve of anyone taking advantage of anyone else, for any reason. I'll also caution people from letting themselves be taken advantage of. Again, if people are careful and have a realistic perspective, I'll never judge how they spend their money. However, heartbreak kills our ability to be responsible and realistic. I can say that firsthand. I pay for cable because it's entertaining and I don't base my world view on Breaking Bad. I'd likely pay for a psychic too for the ebtertainment value if I were so inclined. Entertainment and comfort are worth paying for, you just have to be cautious. 3
AnyaNova Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 I do know a lot about a lot. I've never said that my way is the only way, and i cannot stop someone from going another way. But when 99% of the time, bucking the trend won't work, i'll advise people to ignore mine, and Pfenix's, and Confused, and Simon's advice, at their peril. Psychics are charlitans, not gifted. If they are charging one penny for their "services", they are preying on innocent, grieving people and that is something i cannot abide. I wanted Aaron to know that, before he was tempted to spend any money for more in-depth analysis. And let's be clear about what the free readings actually are. There are nothing but a business strategy and a hook into the paid readings. Because people will tend to think he is somehow more upfront. IF he were truly upfront, he would offer all of his readings for free. If he were upfront, he wouldn't spend so much time focusing on the messages of the broken and hurting. Happy people often have life questions too, but they are probably much less motivated to go on and get the full in-depth paid reading. 2
AnyaNova Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Yes i agree that they are charlitans. But everyone has their own way of dealing with breakup or being dumped. Sometimes its better to believe that what we can do will work, even if its obvious it wont. I see camps here now. Bit like my job. QUOTE=aspiringuitarheroine;5374985]I do know a lot about a lot. I've never said that my way is the only way, and i cannot stop someone from going another way. But when 99% of the time, bucking the trend won't work, i'll advise people to ignore mine, and Pfenix's, and Confused, and Simon's advice, at their peril. Psychics are charlitans, not gifted. If they are charging one penny for their "services", they are preying on innocent, grieving people and that is something i cannot abide. I wanted Aaron to know that, before he was tempted to spend any money for more in-depth analysis. There is the delay in healing while people wait for the psychic's response, hoping against hope that the psychic says that there still might be a chance. There is still also the damage done in not trusting one's own assessment of things, and placing one's decision making partially or all in the hands of a stranger because they claim to have "a gift." I think there are healthy ways to deal with a breakup and unhealthy ones. On the one hand, I think most spiritual/religious traditions can be helpful (but you have to be careful, they can be very harmful as well). However, I suspect that people who tend to utilize psychics and over-depend on ministerial advice quite likely have all kinds of self-doubt and mistrust of their own ability to see reality and deal appropriately with it. I don't know. I can't quite articulate what it is, particularly with this one, but where he appears to do good and to be more innocuous than many of the others, I fear he is not. I wish I could put my finger on it better. 1
Haydn Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Anya, i dont buy into this at all. I would never consult a mystic, i dont even believe in god. Just asked Aspring a question that was all. But i do believe in hope. Is that different?
AnyaNova Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Anya, i dont buy into this at all. I would never consult a mystic, i dont even believe in god. Just asked Aspring a question that was all. But i do believe in hope. Is that different? Hope, overall, can be a very healthy positive thing. People who skate very close to manipulating other people's not so much. Hope in one's ex coming back? Deadly. And that is even in cases where one's ex might come back. If you have not recovered from and appropriately mourned the old relationship, you will not be able to create a new and workable relationship with one's ex. Between you and Aspiring--both of you have great qualities and intelligent things to say. I hope that both of you can recognize that about each other, even in the midst of this disagreement. 3
BlessYourCottonSocks Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Then again, $20 doesn't seem too bad for a therapy session. Not sure why he calls it psychic. I can't see where any of his knowledge would come from super-natural abilities. I'm not sure if you are trying to be ignorant right now or what. And please don't take offense to that. I'm just getting frustrated. Take a look at his site so you might be able to get the answers you are looking for rather than making them up to suit your opinion about "psychics". HE IS NOT PSYCHIC. AH! haha Please don't call him that. Mondez Durden In fact, I urge you to email him and let him explain for you. I think the one question asked above to him was an awful question. You aren't supposed to tell him your situation. All you say is "My name is X and I would like to know where X stands with me" He doesn't just do relationships, he does career, family, friends and everything else. So YES, every situation is different. My friend was abused, I wasn't. How did he pick up abuse? Lucky guess? Listen, I could go on and on about how I feel, but it won't hold any merit because you so strongly believe differently. So believe what you want, and so will I.
BlessYourCottonSocks Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 And let's be clear about what the free readings actually are. There are nothing but a business strategy and a hook into the paid readings. Because people will tend to think he is somehow more upfront. IF he were truly upfront, he would offer all of his readings for free. If he were upfront, he wouldn't spend so much time focusing on the messages of the broken and hurting. Happy people often have life questions too, but they are probably much less motivated to go on and get the full in-depth paid reading. Thing is, I only paid the guy twice and he has always been there to just give me advice, which I posted a few things he said on here. He is very intuitive and can see things past/present in ANY situation, not just relationships. So he feels thing, he can NOT see the future or what will happen, so it's nearly impossible for him to give you false hope. But it's nice to know about the person better than you could have on your own and why they left. It's not about false hope or getting back with your ex, it's about finding comfort and understanding the situation better. It's closure. You can't just go an ask your ex "Why did you break up with me?" I mean, you can, but it will be a pathetic answer. Even if he is wrong, it brings you comfort, a little bit sunshine in your dark clouded world. Sorry Anya this post wasn't really directed just to you... <3 I thought this would be interested to share with you all who are skeptical of who he is or what he is or if what he is doing is real. Here is a little excerpt of him explaining who he is and talking to the people who don't believe in psychics or clairvoyants....One commenter said Mondez was false with his reading and pretends to be a psychic, and another commenter bashed psychics and stated that they are frauds. All these comments weren't directed on Mondez, but others too. Mondez just joined in at the argument. People who call names are often void of intellect or are unable to debate a subject on merit alone. And I find it laughable that people who use science as the basis of their understanding of the universe can't explain why there is no consistancy in their views of needing provable theories to lay claim of ligitimacy for all those things we know to exist but don't know how they do. How was life formed? Why do we have consciousness, and what makes it so? What defines life outside the borders of our planet? In string theory, what causes the confluence of lines in the math equation that represents it? What was our appendex originally used for? These are all things we can't answer yet with sceince nor has experimenments totally proven or disproven all theories yet. How is that possible if your sound reason ect? I'm a parasite? Maybe you're not as informed as you think you are, and I hate to tell you this but the larger scientific community does neither believe or disbelieve in psychic ability because like all theories it has not been proven or disproven. You're misrepresenting the scientific community and quite frankly, you're being hyperbolic in your arguments. I have a B.A in psychology from Clayton State University. Where did you get your physics degree??????? And, by the way, several of my clients ARE scientists and have physics degrees or one has a masters in bio-chem. I have 2 clients who hold PHD's, one in law and the other in sociology. You think they can't tell the difference between what they feel to be real and a parasite? What about all the lawyers and medical doctors I read for? Are all those men and women uneducated idiots too? Or is that your story and you're sticking to it? It comes down to personal experiences. Period. If you haven't experienced it you won't tend to believe in it. If you have, you're more apt to believe. But this phony scientific argument and name calling the people who are argueing against its exitance is very telling. Blessings. There is no reason to show so much anger. If you have a personal issue, fine. But name calling, saying I should be put in jail and making broad generalizations are beneath real comment. I could care less if you believe in me or not, but your venom is over the top. I provide a service and I try to be up front about what I am and what I can do. I can't see the future because I don't claim to be psychic. I'm clairvoyant. I don't expect you to know the difference. But it doesn't take me being prescient to see your anger is a bit over the top, and needlessly personal. Take a deep breathe and discuss this topic like an adult. But throwing temper tandrums like a child makes my point that those who blanketly tar us all as frauds either lack deductive reasoning ability or are un reasonable in their own right. One more thing: you can't simply say ESP doesn't exist and that's final. Doesn't work like that because you can't prove a negative or disprove a positive. Simply it's unprovable either way; and therefore personal experience makes all the defference. Blessings to you. ---- I recently was told about Rip Off Report and checked to see if my name was added to dozens of other people who either claim or do have psychic abilities. I was not shocked to see my name on here as I figure there are some people who would not like the idea of a reader in the first place. What I was surprised about was the quote of the so called client I had: "Mondez Durden pretends to be a real psychic but way off with me." First issue I have with this post is the assertion that I claim to be a psychic. I do not. I am a clairvoyant, some one who senses information from people and objects through a connection, either with a name or picture or touch of an object. A clairvoyant sees the past and the present and uses those guidlines to speculate what an outcome of a situation will be. It's probability. A psychic SEES the future. At no time have I ever claimed anywhere online, here on Liveperson or Bitwine or briefly on my on site, that I could see the future. In fact, I specifically say this in my profile if the person had bothered to read it. Also, my name is included in those who claim to be fortune tellers. Again, it's explicitly on my profile that I am not a fortune teller. It's the very first statement I make in my ABOUT ME portion. I go into detail about my process and how I VERIFY I have a connection BEFORE I charge anything. As not every single clairvoyant will connect with every single person every single time. That's just ignorance about the process. The same doctor can have patients come in with the same wombs on different days and can save one patients life but not the others. Different circumstances have to be put in consideration. Also, it's strongly stated in my profile that I have a connection time which is to make sure we are both connected so I can be helpful. I ask the client not to tell me much of anything as I don't like to know too much going in and I simply ask them to confirm if what I am seeing is true of not. If not, I tell them we are not connected and refer them over to someone else. I have made great pains to do this because it's just wrong to charge for someone whom you can not connect with. As as far as psychic addicts. I even have a notice on my profile that describes psychic addiction and its problems and explain I can't read for someone who's an addict and I would have to refer them to a therapist. Last point, I've never, not once since doing this work online had ONE client whose name is JOE. I have to connect with a first name and tell every single client that because if I don't have their real first name (not birthdates or last names) then I can't conect. It's possible I was off and could not connect but then this person NEVER paid for a reading because I would never have let it get passed the confirmation stage. And it's possible this person did not give me his real first name at which I would not have been able to connect. Clairvoyant is not the same as God, I need something to connect to and online I use names. So, overall, I'm just laughing at this so called report because I take great pains to not only be accurate but also to be fair and not charge if I'm not properly connected. I try to be honest about my limitations, I'm clear about the fact I'm not a psychic or fortune teller. And I denouce psychic addiction. Basically, this is a hack job. This person does not like the idea of psychics because this person feel psychics could not help him with his issues, but don't take it out on honest clairvoyants like me. There are a LOT of scammers and liers out there and I'd be lying if I didn't admit that, but don't you DARE include me in that group unless you can come better with a little more proof of my inadequacies than, "Mondez Durden pretends to be a real psychic but way off with me." Pathetic.
Never Again Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Cotton, I know you're upset, but a "misuse" of a term that references a group he belongs to, it's not insulting, not does it categories his alleged abilities. As for the question, he answered. If he answers, he has to stand behind it. Period. Doesn't matter if someone decides it's asked in an awful way. He's also making generalizations and strawmannig. That's not "joining an arguement", it's being needlessly arguementative. Just because science doesn't yet know certain things does not substantiate his claims AT ALL. Yes, there is room for belief. I'm fairly open minded, but you have to be aware that there are many people that DO fish for information and WILL make vague comments and wait for confirmation. He may or may not be one of them. If you choose to believe everything he says, then great, but at least be aware that his "gifts" may not be real. He also choses to harp on the term "psychic". Guess what? Not everyone knows the nuances of the supernatural. If he said something incorrect or off base (even if it was within the realm of being clairvoyant and not "psychic") he is accountable for it. He's accountable for what he says. I proposed an open minded experiment, and people are weighing in. It's our right just as his business is his. His "arguement" is weak. Does that mean he's a total fake? No idea, but let people from their own opinion based on his WORK, not his CLAIMS. 3
Am4Real Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Disagree to agree with you....but let me explain.... Psychics [highlight]ARE NOT FAKE[/highlight]!!! Now hold on for the punch line, please.....(drum roll) Psychics ARE ENTERTAINERS!! Magicians are ENTERTAINERS; Actors are ENTERTAINERS and so on. They all represent a service the well minded of this world pay for and receive entertainment value. There...I think this is a gentle explanation which I hope settles down and quiets the critics of ASPIRINGUITARHEROINE Can we all grab out toys and get back in the sand box now? I do know a lot about a lot. I've never said that my way is the only way, and i cannot stop someone from going another way. But when 99% of the time, bucking the trend won't work, i'll advise people to ignore mine, and Pfenix's, and Confused, and Simon's advice, at their peril. Psychics are charlitans, not gifted. If they are charging one penny for their "services", they are preying on innocent, grieving people and that is something i cannot abide. I wanted Aaron to know that, before he was tempted to spend any money for more in-depth analysis. Edited December 1, 2013 by Am4Real 2
singme2sleep Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Disagree to agree with you....but let me explain.... Psychics [highlight]ARE NOT FAKE[/highlight]!!! Now hold on for the punch line, please.....(drum roll) Psychics ARE ENTERTAINERS!! Magicians are ENTERTAINERS; Actors are ENTERTAINERS and so on. They all represent a service the well minded of this world pay for and receive entertainment value. There...I think this is a gentle explanation which I hope settles down and quiets the critics of ASPIRINGUITARHEROINE Can we all grab out toys and get back in the sand box now? I see you still come on here too sometimes lol
Am4Real Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Hi Sing, God I've missed you!!!! LOL Yes, back on a roll this weekend and only you know why. Felt like helping others this weekend which is always good for me too given the timing of events. Hopefully I've been doing okay on the board (I'm a little rusty you know) but feel free to add a few words or correct my sorry a $ $. I'll drop by the way side later tonight but you know which cloud to find me on...I'll be waiting. Love, Am4Real I see you still come on here too sometimes lol
Robert Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Let's keep the posts on this thread on topic, if you are wondering what the topic is then please read the first post in the thread, the thread is not a general discussion of psychics. Thanks
JDPT Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 I've contemplated the thought of a psychic countless times. However, I'm too incredulous to accept that another person can disclose something I don't already know. I'm sure this has helped you come to terms, hey at this point whatever it takes right?
Zoe Lilith Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 I was stopped on the street from a so-called "psychic"- she told me that my then relationship is "meant to be" and that we belong together, she also mentioned a child sometime next year...of course, I was happy, although I know that no one knows what is going to happen to us in the future, but I was so happy to hear that.. I didn't want to talk to her, but she followed me and just started talking until she got my attantion....this people know how to do that, they watch your body language and the way one reacts to their coments...that's the only gift they have.
Author aaron11892 Posted December 1, 2013 Author Posted December 1, 2013 Why has my thread blown up into a full on debate about psychics? LOL
BlessYourCottonSocks Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Why has my thread blown up into a full on debate about psychics? LOL because we all have strong opinions! lol How do you feel Aaron?
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